C# Express is Alive. IT'S ALIVE!!!

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DeepICE — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:44:29 GMT

Is this a new thing or was it always supposed to be free. I rember reading that they were going to go for about $95

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staceyw — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:52:07 GMT

Congradulations!

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DeepICE — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:14:27 GMT

BTW. It's not FREE. Microsoft is being kind of enough to you to allow you to use it for a year.

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mabster — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:41:11 GMT

That's not true, DeepICE. If you download it within the next year, it's free forever. Check Dan Fernandez's announcement on his blog.

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loc — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:19:44 GMT

Awesome! Thanks for creating these great tools for students, hobbyish, and the slow laptop I have that now can bring C# and SQL everywhere I go. (Is it impossible to make ASP.NET Express and IIS Express?)

I just hope they will replace GVIM + gcc in the schools labs soon.

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nealho — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:23:22 GMT

loc:
Is it impossible to make ASP.NET Express and IIS Express?

As Cyrus mentioned in his list, there is an Express SKU for ASP.NET called <a "href=http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/default.aspx">Visual Web Developer Express</a>.

IIS is not a programming language like C# or VB or even ASP.NET. IIS is the web application server that is a part of Windows, and comes with WinXP Pro (afaik, not Home) and Windows server (both 2k and 2k3). ASP.NET is designed to run on IIS. I'm not sure what you'd be looking for in "IIS Express." :)

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nealho — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:25:24 GMT

eep, comments don't like html. Here's the URL I was shooting for.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/default.aspx

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loc — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:35:11 GMT

Neal: I was thinking about IIS Lite (& free), and wanting one since I don't understand why XP Home on my laptop doesn't have it.

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loc — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:37:08 GMT

Thanks for the link, Neal. I'll figure out if I can download/install IIS on XP Home.

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CyrusN — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:47:26 GMT

Loc: I would imagine that IIS isn't made available for XP Home users as it's a product that's only 0.00001% of all XP Home users would use :)

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loc — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:47:40 GMT

And memory served me right. I'm stuck with XP Home and can't install VWD 2005 on it.

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CyrusN — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:50:45 GMT

Loc: AFAIK, you should have no problem installing VWD Express on XP home. What issue are you seeing?

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loc — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:52:36 GMT

Cyrus, I agree with you, but at least let me download and install it on Home. It must be hard to have that option. Anyway, these new tools are sweet enough to upgrade the thing to XP Pro.

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loc — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:55:25 GMT

Cyrus: Really? VWD doesn't need IIS? This must be new.

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loc — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:59:49 GMT

I mean I haven't used VWD, so I'm not aware of that.

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CyrusN — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:36:08 GMT

Loc: VWD comes with it's own mini web server that you can develop against. WHen you've completed your work you can use any of a huge number of cheap hosters to host your ASP.Net application.

Cheers!

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loc — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:21:31 GMT

that's exactly what i need, C#rus. thanks for cheering me up.

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Johnny Moondog — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:26:53 GMT

If you check the Visual Studio Express FAQ it says its free for 1 year. Still a bargain tho at $49.

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austro — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:06:16 GMT

"...as long as you download Visual Studio Express on or before November 7th 2006, you will not have to pay for it."

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James — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:52:41 GMT

Hey Cyrus this is completely off topic but what do you use to format and color the C# code you post? It looks really nice and the HTML is very clean.

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loc — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:44:26 GMT

testing:

<@
private void SearchTextBox_KeyUp(object sender, System.Windows.Forms.KeyEventArgs e)
{
if (e.KeyCode == Keys.Enter)
{
Search();
}
}
@>

yeah, how do you post C# code that?

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loc — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:53:53 GMT

test 2:

<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><PRE class=coloredcode>int i = 5;
string s = "Hello";
double d = 1.0;
int[] numbers = new int[] {1, 2, 3};
Dictionary<int,Order> orders = new Dictionary<int,Order>();
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>

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loc — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:03:57 GMT

when you're logged in blogs.msdn.com, this textbox probably has advanced features to copy & paste code block, I guess.

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Simon Stewart — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:34:11 GMT

This is great news. Well done to you and your team Cyrus.

I had suspected that these tools were going to be free, but it's excellent to see it finally be made public.

My only suggestion for the pages of each Express product is to:
- add the download size
- add the EULA
I haven't seen either, and downloading all the way to South Africa is a mission.

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loc — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:07:46 GMT

Yes! I'll be able to download them tonight, finally.

Hey, how are you mastering C#3 and working on VS 05 at the same time? How do you gain a new skill? Share with us if you could.

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loc — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:20:28 GMT

Does anyone know if I can install SxS VS03, VS05, and those Express products? Thanks!

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asdf — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:31:39 GMT

Cyrus, dude, have you stopped blogging or what?

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Cyrus (Not Actually) — Wed, 04 Jan 2006 06:29:54 GMT

I will not go two months without blogging.

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David Campeau — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:05:19 GMT

C# Express is Alive... unfortunatly this blog isn't :-(

Was informational and entertaining while it lasted.

Thanks Cyrus,