Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Chris — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:51:00 GMT

Missing picture references...

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Frans Bouma — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:21:00 GMT

Looks great! :)

What I do wonder though is... isn't this all very time consuming? I mean... what if the developer could just type in 2 lines of code:
Parakeet polly = new Parakeet("polly");
string result = polly.Speak("Hello");

Wouldn't that be faster, from the developer's POV? Now he has to click through a lot of tiny dialogs. Tools like the SnippetCompiler by Jeff Key do similar things but have one disadvantage: they don't have setup the references correctly, and inside vs.net you have, right there, so having a kind of snippet compiler interface to the codebase you're working with, without the dialogs and mousing, would be very helpful. I'm not sure if there is a textbased interface to the object test bench engine though... but if there isn't it would be a great addition. :)

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re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Dan Fernandez — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:32:00 GMT

Thanks Chris, there was a problem with my hoster not recycling connections to the connection pool. It seems okay now :)

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Dan Fernandez — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:41:00 GMT

Hey Frans,

I agree with you, the OTB visual tools (and some have argued Class Designer) are probably for the less experienced developer or a developer approaching a code base that isn't as easy to understand through 1-2 lines of code. There isn't a text-based interface to OTB, but we are also looking to expand the functionality of design time expression evaluation (DTEE is getting there, but still lacks what you're looking for) to do what you've requested.

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Dan Fernandez — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:37:00 GMT

One more thing WRT Frans's comments as DTEE seems to work in this scenaro. I'll admit that the two lines of code scenario is basic, you *can* use the Immediate Window to execute the code, and the created objects *will* appear in Object Test Bench. You can then call methods on the object either from the immediate window or from OTB.

From the Immediate Window, just type "?Parakeet polly = new Parakeet();"

Hit enter and the new created object instance will appear in OTB.

Next type "?polly.Speak("hello");" into the immediate window and the console will write the value out.

You could also switch to the OTB window and right click on the class to do the same thing.

Nice that these do work in concert...

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Frans Bouma — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:20:00 GMT

That seems to be the perfect solution for now I think :) Now in 2003 if you run a line in the immediate window, an object created there is gone when teh line is done. Great that it works in concert with OTB :) Thanks for this info :) these things often get overlooked when you start with a new IDE, so it's great to have this info beforehand :)

Using Class Designer

Dan Fernandez's Blog — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:23:00 GMT

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Daniel Moth — Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:48:00 GMT

Last time I looked this great feature is C#-only. For any VBers wanting it, feel free to vote here:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/viewfeedback.aspx?feedbackid=7ec42e6a-8e3b-47be-8c5c-012c4202c0ec

(Sorry Dan for using your blog entry for this)

New Class Designer Posts

Pedro Silva's Blog — Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:48:00 GMT

New Class Designer Posts

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re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Corrado Cavalli — Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:40:00 GMT

Looks great but can't find the object test bench methods on my December CTP,does it includes OTB?
-Corrado

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TrackBack — Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:25:00 GMT

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re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

jarod_24 — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:01:00 GMT

I guess that with complex objects the Object test might be useful.

What would be nice if you could do the Object test from the console inside the IDE).

Instead of all the Mouse-clicking between the dialog boxes.

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re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Panu Viljamaa — Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:25:26 GMT

Just for comparison,
in Smalltalk you can enter code like:

polly := Parakeet new: 'polly'.
result := polly speak: 'Hello'.

into any workspace/text -window.
Then select the above with mouse,
and choose from menu 'do it', or
more often 'inspect it'.

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Bizzer — Sun, 22 May 2005 17:55:51 GMT

While we're on the subject of "Just for comparison": Have a look at <a href="http://www.bluej.org/vs/vs-bj.html">this page</a>: it seems like the Visual Studio gurus got it's inspiration elsewhere (and as usual, without voluntarily admitting to it...).

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Bizzer — Sun, 22 May 2005 17:57:03 GMT

Correcting the link from post above:

http://www.bluej.org/vs/vs-bj.html

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Bizzer — Sun, 22 May 2005 17:58:29 GMT

Correcting the link from post above: http://www.bluej.org/vs/vs-bj.html

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

bill c — Mon, 23 May 2005 15:56:26 GMT

I know that great minds can think alike, but this seems to follow the same metaphors of a too lthat has been available for java developers in education for 6 years. Check out the link and note the similarities. Then send some email to Dr. Kolling to say thank you.

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Elton — Mon, 30 May 2005 23:47:29 GMT

whatafucka?
MS humm...

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TechGuru — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 00:16:25 GMT

Thats is a nice tool to have in V$.net. But hey <b>wait a second,</b> check out <a href='http://www.bluej.org/vs/vs-bj.html'>http://www.bluej.org/vs/vs-bj.html<a>.

This is really carp that Micro$oft is doing at this stage. I don't know if Micr$oft pay's its programmers for developing new technologies or just copy the existing free one's, publish them as its own and patent them. This is ridiculous.

Object bench has been in BlueJ since past 6 years, and is a great teaching tool.

What M$ has done is not at all good on its part.

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Bruce Boughton — Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:26:20 GMT

Hey, credit where credit's due.

1) This does seem heavily based on BlueJ's implementation, even down to many of the dialog box layouts. MS should credit the BlueJ team for that, unless it is indeed a coincidence.

2) However, this seems to have been taken further by the MS team, allowing text based object creation to intermix with mouse-driven interaction.

This is a very good idea, which can be developed well.

Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

Dan Fernandez's Blog — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:18:06 GMT

[Please read my Disclaimer]
NOTE: I don't own Object Test Bench,&nbsp;I just happened to blog about...

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Tim Pointon — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:28:40 GMT

I'll add my voice to those lamenting Microsoft's ripping off a good idea from the lovely, free BlueJ and claiming it as their own innovation. Shame on Microsoft. Kudos to BlueJ.

Object Test Bench Doesn't Work For Web Projects

Dan Fernandez's Blog — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 17:15:19 GMT

A customer recently emailed me asking why Object Test Bench doesn't work for Web projects and it seems...

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Simon — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:02:51 GMT

When i try to use this i get the following error:

0x80004005

I dont get any description. Can anyone help?

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

danielfe — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:22:15 GMT

Hey Simon, can you provide more information on exactly what you're doing?

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Nicolas — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:28:39 GMT

That's really helpfull, thanks !
The only thing: it doesn't work with an output library project.

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Magnus Åvitsland — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:41:56 GMT

Simon (3 posts up)!

Have u gotten any solution to the 0x80004005 error?
I get the same error.

I got a web-project (C#), put my classes in a class-diagram. When I try to create an instanse of the class I always get the same error:

Object Test Bench
Create Instanse Failed
0x80004005

re: Object Test Bench (VS 2005)

Al M — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:43:00 GMT

I'm getting the same error as well (0x80004005). Anyone found the problem yet?

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sync — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:05:00 GMT

I am having the same problem too. Method Invokde Failed (0x80004005). Anyone found the solution?

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Ben — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:12:19 GMT

I am also getting this exact same method invocation problem for either invoking a static method or trying to create an object instance, in a VB.NET web-project.

If you look in the command window after trying to do either of these, you see:

_XotbX_000 = BookingEngineUtilities.Test