Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

Una risposta a BlueJ...

Lorenzo Barbieri @ UGIblogs! — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:07:13 GMT

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Tim Anderson — Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:00:15 GMT

My take on VS vs BlueJ.

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david b. — Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:53:06 GMT

C'mon... !
Can't you simply say "WE COPIED IT" ????

That long explanation it's not necessary.

Blame the teachers! They are the culprit !!
It happens they used BlueJ.

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Daniel Moth — Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:56:02 GMT

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re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

Luke90 — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:04:50 GMT

As a follow-up to this story...

Microsoft are now trying to patent this feature,

see Michael Kolling's blog here: http://www.bluej.org/mrt/?p=21

Maybe the people who filed the patent weren't aware of the prior art but this doesn't make Microsoft look good.

re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

A User — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:15:27 GMT

This issue has risen it's head again. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/27/147243

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Concerned citizen — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:37:39 GMT

And now you've patented it. Disgusting.

Senshi’s Weblog » M$ patentiert BlueJ

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RMD — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:37:07 GMT

What about the issue of Microsoft patenting this feature?

If it wasn't for the patent, I really doubt there would be such a big deal about this.

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re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

Senso — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:29:04 GMT

Micro$oft again...

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ed_ — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:59:48 GMT

this article is getting much attention from /.

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/27/147243

re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

dash — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:12:39 GMT

so... M$ basically copied BlueJ functionality and tries to sell it as "it is what the customers wanted".

sadly it is still stealing. no matter who wanted it or why. M$ is going down... slowly but steadily. No illusions here. All M$ can do is sue its way to success. Good luck with that. Sadly this might just work...

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re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

Ben H. — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:57:27 GMT

Perhaps you could explain why this non-invention was recently patented by your company.

re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

Abraham Tehrani — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:23:34 GMT

Ironically the Visual Studio BlueJ Edition is not available for the Express editions (read: free).

Netbeans with the (read: sanctioned) BlueJ Edition will still be the popular choice for that reason.

re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

JC — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:28:09 GMT

And now you've patented it - nice...

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don't misquote me — Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:59:15 GMT

man, that sucks that zealots have tried to spin your words. I feel your pain.

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Arnold — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 01:37:58 GMT

And now the three thiefs Gautam Goenka, Partho P. Das, and Umesh Unnikrishnan try to patent what they ripped of from BlueJ. Disgusting!

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Univ. lecturer — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:29:48 GMT

It looks that Microsoft steals the work of Universities (at least of the people working on them). I would propose a boicot on Microsoft products in reasearch/academic institutions.

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Some_guy_out_there — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:27:51 GMT

First you copy, then you patent it. Next thing I hear will be Microsoft suing the BlueJ guys or others that use the same tech. [url=http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=20060101406.PGNR.&OS=DN/20060101406&RS=DN/20060101406]Shame on you.[/url]

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Dubya — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:06:56 GMT

> Don't get me wrong, I open my mouth on my blog quite a bit, > but I never used the word invention or innovation once in my > blog post.

Gotya! Running a search gives 5 pages with the word innovation

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dbcowboy — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:25:43 GMT

every day there is more proof Microsoft resorts to illegal practices to keep its monopoly. And where is the oversite this convicted company is supposed to be burdened with ?

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bwilczynski — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:46:58 GMT

I wonder if you (personaly, nat as a team) will have enough guts to do something to prevent your company fropm doing something so clearly wrong and dishonest. Since (maybe accidentaly) you've acknowledged you know about your company clearly ignoring prior art in your patent application and you are in position (i assume) in stopping this action. It will be interesting to see if a Microsoft emploee can actually do something honest against the unofficial company policy of bullying small competitors out of business...

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Larry — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:43:17 GMT

The BlueJ guys might have a good point in King-Arthur-Knights-of-the-Round-Table-land, but the real world is full of lawyers.

Since they hadn't bothered to protect their intellectual property, the field was open to someone else to grab it. If Microsoft wanted to use this very useful (and somewhat obvious) teaching tool in their product, they couldn't sanely do so without IP protection. Maybe Microsoft's patent application will be denied because of prior art, but i'm sure that would be fine with Microsoft. A legal precedent would have been set, so some bottom-feeding IP troll couldn't take action against both BlueJ and Microsoft.

This is pretty much common sense, unless you're an anti-Microsoft zealot.

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MaDeR — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:14:16 GMT

Larry, your morality is no different from that of Nigerian scammer. Steal, grab, acquire, assimilate where it is possibe. And, of course, scream when someone stelas from you.

"somewhat obvious"

Since when obvious things are patentable? At least theoretically.

"Maybe Microsoft's patent application will be denied because of prior art"

Since when "prior art" have any meaning for you or Microsoft? Another annoyng, incovienient, idiotic thing, like "honesty", "justice" and other funny words that for someone of us have more meaning.

"some bottom-feeding IP troll couldn't take action against both BlueJ and Microsoft"

You suggest that this situatin is good for BlueJ? Good joke.

"anti-Microsoft zealot"

Yes, anyone who does not like *stealing* features (almost literal, because thanks to patent microsoft deny acess to that feature for anyone else) is zealot.

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FraterM — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:21:21 GMT

Even if you didn't explicitly use "invention/innovation" will certainly be used on the Marketing Materials, along with your feature list. So, you'll end up with that being a result whether intentional or not, judging from past experience.

re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

Matt C — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:14:18 GMT

"Now that Michael has said we described this as an 'invention/innovation', other bloggers have now passed on this misinformation"

And now that the patent application has come to light, with the line:

"Inventors: Goenka; Gautam; (Hyderabad, IN) ; Das; Partho P.; (Hyderabad, IN) ; Unnikrishnan; Umesh; (Redmond, WA)"

"Assignee Name and Adress: Microsoft Corporation"

...

You owe michael and those "other bloggers" an apology.

re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

anonymoose — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:52:51 GMT

Quoting Larry:

"If Microsoft wanted to use this very useful (and somewhat obvious) teaching tool in their product, they couldn't sanely do so without IP protection."

...

"A legal precedent would have been set, so some bottom-feeding IP troll couldn't take action against both BlueJ and Microsoft."

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Are you high? This blog post was originally written in June 2005. The patent application was filed in January 2007. So that's at least 1.5 years of using "this very useful (and somewhat obvious) teaching tool" in their product, without "IP protection". And by claiming the tool is "somewhat obvious", you are only strengthening the case against patenting it.

"Some bottom-feeding IP troll" - more ironic words were never spoken. By retracting the patent application and apologizing, Microsoft is admitting it had no merit. If they had successfully obtained this meritless patent, and proceeded to sue BlueJ's creators (you think they wouldn't - remember "the real world is full of lawyers"), they'd be no different than any other "bottom-feeding IP troll", except for the fact they are at the top of the food chain. Larry, I guess in your world, might makes right, and history is written by the winners.

re: Responding to post on OTB and BlueJ

anonymoose — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:04:35 GMT

Oops, I see that the patent application was filed in October 2005, not January 2007. My bad.

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Chowdary Thammineedi — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:59:05 GMT

Yes yes YES!

I did think these were DESI morons who tried to patent this. It was'nt long ago that the same Idiotic desis tried to patent Bubble Sort from VIA or something.

I feel sad that I am a desi. You stupid morons, stop this bullshit.

Shame on you BLOODY PLAGIARISTS!

Of course you never had a decent education where you were taught to never ever copy other's work without attribution. Did you?

You suckers bring a BAD name to all Indians (the asian variety)

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nick james — Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:34:40 GMT

Typically disgraceful behaviour, the sooner the EU. get the big guns out the better.

These people : "Inventors: Goenka; Gautam; (Hyderabad, IN) ; Das; Partho P.; (Hyderabad, IN) ; Unnikrishnan; Umesh; (Redmond, WA)"

are scum.

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