First Avalon 3D Demo...

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denny — Wed, 02 Jun 2004 03:08:00 GMT

Very Cool!

I had an AmigA 500 back in the day...
it's taken so long to see the PC catch up to some of the BASIC AmigA Tech!
Copper, Blitter, FAT Agnes, Paula, Daphine...

for readers who never used an AmigA the above were the chips that made the machine work.
it was in many ways a multi-cpu system, dedicated graphics processors, sound processors
and it had an advanced "DLL" system .... and only one fixed address 0004 was the entry point that you called to get a handle on a DLL, all DLL addresses were "Base Relative" code so when a DLL loaded there were not issues with "Base Address fixups" that was by design.... just a few of the things they got right in that one machine...
what they got wrong was selling it to Jack Tarmel.... now if they could have gotten Gates and Balmer to bought them?? Hmmmm we'd all be using an AmigA based OS today and .Net would have been created 5-6 years sooner I bet!

re: First Avalon 3D Demo...

felix — Wed, 02 Jun 2004 03:57:00 GMT

That is really cool. Is build 4074 available for subscriber download? I'll go check. I love Avalon.

felix

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danlehen — Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:32:00 GMT

denny - You are so right that it was the dedicated hardware that made the Amiga. For the longest time the issue with the PC was hardware, but these days we have a 350mhz GPU sitting there idly while we struggle to scroll a window smoothly. My team is dedicated to ensuring that applications built on the Avalon platform will fully utilize the hardware on the machine.

re: First Avalon 3D Demo...

danlehen — Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:33:00 GMT

felix - It should be available. It was the build of Longhorn we gave out at WinHEC.

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B.Y. — Wed, 02 Jun 2004 16:29:00 GMT

Put the source somewhere you don't have to sign in with .NET passport and then register.

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re: First Avalon 3D Demo...

denny — Fri, 04 Jun 2004 00:31:00 GMT

"denny - You are so right that it was the dedicated hardware that made the Amiga. For the longest time the issue with the PC was hardware, but these days we have a 350mhz GPU sitting there idly while we struggle to scroll a window smoothly. My team is dedicated to ensuring that applications built on the Avalon platform will fully utilize the hardware on the machine."

Well good to hear....

try this one on: the X-Box, in a way is like an AmigA 500... small board, dedicated chips etc....

and as for Avalon 3D I for one am looking forward to having a system that uses the power of the GPU, I'm planning a new system sometime soon.... possibly a P4 Ex and a new nVidia card, still looking at when PCI Express gets out Vs. standard mobo....

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Joku — Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:21:00 GMT

I second, put source along with the binary.

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Nicholas Paldino [.NET/C# MVP] — Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:52:00 GMT

Just curious, for those of use that don't have the resources to install a build of Longhorn, is there anyway you can get a movie capture and post that?

re: First Avalon 3D Demo...

CharlesP — Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:37:00 GMT

FYI Amiga fans. A native PowerPC build of Amiga OS4 was just released to developers. See the URL link on this post. :)

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stavros — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 02:09:00 GMT

That is truly one of the most amazing things I have ever seen a computer do. Praise the Almighty that Avalon will be brought to us, enabling such wonderous technology. danlehen, I salute you and when I look at that bouncing ball, I don't just see a ball, I see your hope, your determination, your drive and, yes, even your fear, the fear that we all share when laying our eyes upon the visual feast and technical marvel that is this bouncing ball. May God have mercy on us all. Some may even be concerned about the ethical ramifications of this bouncing ball. Are we, as humans, pushing technology too far? Is Avalon actually the tool of the devil? Who knows, but come my friends, let us rejoice in the bouncing ball on the new Windows version, for it speaks to us in more ways than we can imagine.

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Paul — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:25:00 GMT

How about antialiasig those jaggies next time ;-)

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Ghost — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:17:00 GMT

It's dosen't works. :( Wkat I must do?? :(

re: First Avalon 3D Demo...

danlehen — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:33:00 GMT

Ghost - Can you describe the failure a bit more? Note: It only runs on Longhorn build 4074 (i.e., the build we gave out at WinHEC, not the build we gave out at the PDC).

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Kleptomaniac — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:50:00 GMT

Awsome! what about smoothing the edges (antialiasing) of the ball? Can it work on other versions of windows it looks great as it is the first Avalon 3D demo hope it would get better and better and better :)

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Harlow — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:30:00 GMT

Don't forget "Super Agnes" and "Alice!" Sadly, the world just wasn't ready for the Amiga... But I'm glad I was fortunate enough to have one! Someday the world will catch up...

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simon — Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:55:00 GMT

i dont know much about longhorn but what use will a 3d desktop environment actully have accept for it looking good is this just get back for expose

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Justin — Sat, 19 Jun 2004 05:27:00 GMT

how do you download the source code? that download site is confusing as hell.

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andrew — Sat, 03 Jul 2004 10:26:00 GMT

I think the sides need a bit a smoothing! good start!

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V0yager/DarkLight — Mon, 05 Jul 2004 12:44:00 GMT

Well, well - there are still many active Amiga users (eg. demosceners) and all of them have an new toy -> http://www.pegasosppc.com/

re: Longhorns Avalon 3D vs Mac OSX Carbon API

myriadnz — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 02:54:00 GMT

Windows Lovers are Drooling over the proposed Longhorn Technology adn also the Avalon 3D Development Architecture for GUI development. And writers who adore microsoft have been boasting about longhorn for a while but tell me is the User Interface really that much more advanced? I think the Apple Mac guys did a reasonable job of putting together an advanced 3D type interface with a powerful core operating system. Longhorn is gonna have to look outstanding and far superior to Windows XP in order to get praise from the purists!

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