What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

shawn — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:17:00 GMT

I'd personally be interested in seeing support for XInclude, or similar functionality under another umbrella.

RE: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

oleg@tkachenko.com (Oleg Tkachenko) — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:38:00 GMT

Unsorted out of the blue list:

RelaxNG
XInclude (I hope it will reach Rec stage this year), XML Base
Sure XPathReader.
What about moving EXSLT.NET to the core XPath/XSLT engine?
XPath2/XSLT2
RSS/Atom
XSL-FO :)

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Luc Cluitmans — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:20:00 GMT

- Make subclassing XPathNavigator a bit easier.
Rationale: I have found that building custom subclasses of XPathNavigator to expose legacy file formats as if they were XML is very fruitful. However, subclassing XPathNavigator quite often involves doing the same things over and over again.

- Fix the XPathNodeIterator issue - or is that already fixed in Whidbey?
Rationale: To have custom XPath/XSLT functions return a node set, the specs hint that the function should return an XPathNodeIterator instance. Sadly, many parts of the XPath/XSLT engine actually require a nonpublic subclass of XPathNodeIterator instead (its name currently escapes me; was it 'ResettableXPathNodeIterator' ?). Exslt.NET for instance works around this issue by using a rather ugly reflection based hack to access classes that are internal to System.xml.dll (IIRC).

- A design issue: Please, please keep the various XML technologies where they belong. Why do I have to use parts of XSLT engine, and look at the XSLT documents to make XPath extension functions? Yesterday I finally installed the Whidbey May CTP, and immediately went investigating XQuery. Why does it seem to be integrated with all kinds of SQL technologies? Of course, I see that XQuery and SQL integration is important for microsoft's SQL view. But the way it is now, I really get the feeling that microsoft is forgetting that XQuery is perfectly well suited to be applied to pure XML data (including XPathNavigator based data), without using any database at all. Note that it is perfectly well possible to use the XQuery stuff without any SQL, but the fact that the docs (as far as they exist) are rather SQL-centric, and the fact I need to reference an SQL-related assembly (system.data.sqlxml.dll) to get the XQueryCommand functionality makes me suspect that MS is viewing XQuery far too much as a Yukon-related technology instead of viewing it as a technology with its own merits.

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Chris Darnell — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:14:00 GMT

A simple way to take an XPathDocument and create an XMLDocument from it. This may be in ASP.NET 2.0. If so, then "Thanks!".

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Steve Perry — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:23:00 GMT

I would like to see an easy way to tell the xml parser to ignore a embeded schema and validate the document using an external schema file. The rational is that I don't trust the XML that came from a third party to conform to the schema I have set up.
Thanks!

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Dimitri Glazkov — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:00:00 GMT

This may be a bit off-topic, but have you guys given any thought about what is beyond MSXML for Internet Explorer? Any plans to see managed code meet the client-script world? Or is this out of your jurisdiction?

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Rogelio Morrell — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:01:00 GMT

Talk with Chris Lovett and create a MS SgmlReader that support HTML 4.0 and also XHTML.

That would be nice, if possible.

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Dimitri Glazkov — Fri, 25 Jun 2004 03:24:00 GMT

Darn, I almost forgot about the actual topic.

What I would like to see in System.Xml is a some kind of XML content assembly framework, maybe not CAM, maybe just an assembling reader of some sort, but just enough to build upon.

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Kayode Adesemowo — Tue, 06 Jul 2004 02:36:00 GMT

I'm interested in Semantic Web. <br>
Been searching for native MS tools for rdf, onthology and building semantic web

Would love to see native support for rdf
ontology validation

A little off track
Is X# still a mystery. Any linking with XML

Thanx

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Ronald Wood — Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:47:00 GMT

Please support XSLT 2/XPath 2. I've haven't looked much at XQuery, but I can easily understand its utility. However, we still use XSL for transforms on highly heterogenous sources with diverse outputs (HTML, plain text, email, PDFs through XSL-FO).

I also agree that we should be able to validate XML against any arbitrary schema. This was possible with MSXML and was taken out in the .NET API. This is very useful for XML that is part of internal workflow.

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Daniel Cazzulino — Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:58:00 GMT

My wish:
- SgmlReader built-in
- XPathReader built-in
- XInclude built-in
- EXSLT built-in
- XPath 2.0 API (stand-alone, outside XQuery, like the good old XPathNavigator.Select?)
- RelaxNG
- Schematron
- Lighweight streaming transformations API (to avoid full XSLTs)
- RDF core
- Maybe RDF query

Chris Darnell, if you have an XPathNavigator from an XPathDocument, you can load an XmlDocument using the XPathNavigatorReader: http://weblogs.asp.net/cazzu/archive/2004/04/19/115966.aspx.

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

Robbie Coenmans — Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:54:00 GMT

XQuery 1.0 and XPath 2.0 Full-Text search functionality: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xquery-full-text-20040709/

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

xml training — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:53:00 GMT

RelaxNG
XInclude
XPath 2 & XSLT 2 with FULL-TEXT search capabilities
XSL-FO

And most importantly: XQuery

re: What Would You Like To See in System.Xml in Orcas/Longhorn?

nCandy — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:47:00 GMT

I definitely have to agree with Robbie... XQuery!

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