Understanding the Place of POX, SOAP and WS-* in Building XML Web Services

re: Understanding the Place of POX, SOAP and WS-* in Building XML Web Services

stephen o'grady — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:13:00 GMT

i can't speak for my colleague James on this matter, but i know that my contention in the piece he cited was not that vendors don't currently support the development of REST or POX applications. it was instead that that support is not explicit, it's often buried. every demo i see with web services vendors is a complex mess WS-* transactions. WS-* obviously has its place in the world, but i'd love - just once - to have a vendor trot out a simple XMLHTTPRequest demo for me. it's not complicated, and wouldn't demonstrate half the capabilities of the toolset, but it'd be a lot fresher, i think.

maybe it is "old news" to you guys, but i think a bit of messaging around RESTful approaches would not go amiss.

re: Understanding the Place of POX, SOAP and WS-* in Building XML Web Services

James Governor — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:57:00 GMT

thanks dare. a POX on your house. i will be writing a coda. i was riffing on the point about chosen access mechanisms. i think if 80% of folks are choosing POX or REST or something other than wshful calls it is indeed a good question what the access mechanism actually is.

i still see loads of "web services" definitions that only talk to WS-I. there was one in businessweek for example, just last week. i was guilty of this in the 2k timeframe, and something i am attempting to redress.

I am happy for MS to make a strong claim to web services pluralism. that is excellent. your definition does not require SOAP, which was my conclusion.

MS Ignoring developer demand for REST tools?

XmlTeam's WebLog — Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:21:00 GMT

SOAP's not boring; Amazon's not RESTful; can't we all move on?

Brain.Save() — Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:48:00 GMT

A POX on my house: One SOAP doesn't fit all

James Governor's MonkChips — Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:30:00 GMT

I like to think i am more of a disloyal opposionist.. ;-) some keys to consider in my earlier post on SOAP and REST - those are a. niche - my intention was never to say SOAP is dead, merely...

re: Understanding the Place of POX, SOAP and WS-* in Building XML Web Services

下载 — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 13:15:00 GMT

still see loads of "web services" definitions that only talk to WS-I. there was one in businessweek for example, just last week. i was guilty of this in the 2k timeframe, and something i am attempting to redress

"It's just RESTing"

Mike Taulty's Blog — Fri, 04 May 2007 13:07:42 GMT

Sorry for the title, couldn't resist. I found this; "SOAP is Comatose But Not Officially Dead" followed...