ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

ODF 1.1 Implementer Notes for Office 2007 SP2

Notes2Self.net — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:52:43 GMT

have just been published on the Document Interop Initiative (DII) site :- Welcome to the Microsoft Office

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

Jan Wildeboer — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:00:27 GMT

Do you have some numbers at hand?

- How many implementation notes in total?

- How many of them are descriptive (document how MS Office creates compliance)

- How many of them contain notes on non-compliance?

Can we download the implementation notes in some form? For offline use mainly, to allow for reference when one is not in the Matrix ;-)

Jan

Microsoft Releases ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

Eric White's Blog — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:07:37 GMT

Today, Microsoft published our first set of document-format implementation notes for the ODF implementation

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

int19h — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:27:31 GMT

This is really impressive, and a good answer to all the naysayers! Looking forward to that SP2 now.

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

dmahugh — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:27:13 GMT

Jan, we've not tried to characterize the quantity or type of notes because that can be debatable in many cases. As for an offline copy, we don't currently have plans for that. The web-site structure allows for threaded conversations on each post (which will go live soon), as well as additional notes for other standards/implementations, and we feel that will be most useful to implementers going forward.

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

Stefan Word2k — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:42:34 GMT

"Is one implementation "right" about the number of pages in the ODF 1.1 spec, and the other implementations "wrong" about the page count? Not at all."

Well, I think ANY Document File Format correctly implemented not giving the same page count with different computers, software products or printer drivers has a deficit in the specification!

Those deficits are the main reason why PDF got so successful!

Just because naturally everybody wants his document at the recipient to look the same way he sees it...

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

Jan Wildeboer — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:56:18 GMT

dmahugh: Thanks for the info. When will Office 2007 SP2 hit the market, BTW? I know many people are eager to try the ODF implementation ASAP ... ;-)

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

carlos — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:25:12 GMT

"As for an offline copy, we don't currently have plans for that. "

hi dough

could you tell us why don't you plan to do that? you have produced more than 15000 pages to "off-line reading" iy we count DIS29500 + corrections

It is hard for Microsoft to dump in a PDF all this info?

Thanks in advance

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

dmahugh — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:44:01 GMT

Stefan, I agree that precise rendering is a key benefit of fixed layout formats such as PDF and XPS. Flow-oriented formats like ODF, OOXML and HTML usually don't specify rendering/layout details, however, so that's up to each implementation to decide. (This is why specs are typically published in a fixed layout format, such as the PDFs used by ISO.)

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

dmahugh — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:47:14 GMT

Jan, Office 2007 SP2 will be out in the first half of 2009.

Carlos, I don't think there's any particular reason, it just hasn't been a top priority. We're working on getting the ECMA-376 notes out next. If there's specific info you're trying to find, let me know.

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

Jesper Lund Stocholm — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:01:41 GMT

Doug,

The list of elements and attributes "not supported in core Word/Excel/PowerPoint 2007" is quite long. Can you tell us what will happen, when Office 2007 encouters an unsupported element.

Will it simply be ignored?

When roundtripping - will it be deleted or preserved?

re: ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

Peter Amstein — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:42:52 GMT

Jesper,

On load, Office 2007 SP2 will simply ignore the unsupported elements and attributes in ODF files. We do not attempt to round trip unsupported elements and attributes, they will be removed from the ODF file if you resave it using Office 2007 SP2. This is consistent with our implementation principles and our desire to provide predictable behavior. We considered trying to roundtrip elements and attributes that we do not understand or support, but we found if we did this that we could not be sure the resulting files were internally consistent and conformant ODF files.

As an aside, there are some cases where we write elements or attributes on save that we do not support on load, for the sake of better interoperability with other applications that use ODF. Those cases are described in the implementer notes as well.

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ECMA-376 Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2

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