PivotDiagrams, part 1

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John Ingres — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:30:45 GMT

I am confused. This is the kind of stuff we do with Excel, Reporting Services or MapPoint. Visio is used for designing, not reporting.

If at least the diagram done in Visio could be used/feeded at runtime by a .NET application (without having Visio installed on the workstation), I could see potential.

It IS nice stuff, but in the wrong product IMHO.

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John Ingres — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:20:26 GMT

Is it possible to integrate this technology with Reporting Services?

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Eric Rockey — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 04:29:52 GMT

Thanks for the comments, John. I would say that this may be a different direction for Visio than many people are used to, but we have had reporting functions in the product for many releases -- Visio is not only about designing. In addition to the standard reports feature in Visio, we also allow you to import schedule information from Project, calendar information from Outlook, and organizational chart information from a number of data sources including Exchange. These are all examples of using Visio more as a way of reporting on information than on simply designing something.

PivotDiagrams are an extension of these types of capabilities, but done in a much more general way. The key here is that some data is easier to understand when it is visualized as a diagram, and Visio is the best application for creating diagrams.

As far as integrating this technology with Reporting Services, I'd love to hear the types of scenarios you are thinking would be valuable.

Thanks,
Eric

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John Ingres — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:23:16 GMT

Eric,

Finding scenarios that works with Reporting Services is easy;) We provide software for hundreds of call centers...just look at your call center example on this page.

Many reports have more values when presented in an iconographic way. Numbers over a map, stop light charts, profit per call centers, % split per profit sites, etc.
Showing profits, commissions, etc on a domain organization chart is easier to sell and easier to grasp by anybody looking at it.

If we could design in Visio and use the template in Reporting Services, we would get fancy attractive reports easily. Like doing a paint job on old reports, data is always the same, but the presentation can be much improved. For the moment to do the same thing we have to customize each report extensively; and then it is not compatible with Reporting Services anymore.

Reporting Services can export to Excel...why not to Visio too?

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Andrew — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:59:05 GMT

How about a Visio component for Reporting Services? Similar to a charting component, this would allow you to drag in a visio object, and set properties to define things like Pivot Diagrams, or dynamically created org charts.

Hopefully these pivot diagrams will not go the way of MS Data Analyzer - a cool onscreen tool with limited reporting capabilities.

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Peter Tagatac — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:43:46 GMT

Eric,

As a matter of fact, I was struggling to acheive this not too long ago. Having cracked open the Edson book and trying to integrate Excel/Access wit Visio is not the easiest thing to do off the shelf.

Working with engineers that are familiar with Visio and maybe more comfortable with it than Excel, I feel there is ample room for Visio to be an interactive reporting tool.

Looking forward to more.

peter

btw..is mai lan still part of the Visio community?

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EH — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:14:36 GMT

yeah, RS integration would be great

a export/rendering engine for Visio would be a killer feature

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Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:26:05 GMT

Dead?

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Eric Rockey — Sat, 06 May 2006 02:56:20 GMT

I'm not dead yet! Just took a little hiatus!

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