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I’ve been battling for the past day with the Starwood Corporation.  They are the group that own hotels like the Westin, Sheraton, the W, etc.  Personally I love the beds at the Westin and try to stay at one whenever I’m traveling for either vacation or for business, but probably not any more…

It seems that I signed up for a promotion way back in February where if you earn one free weekend night for every six days that you stay in Feb, March, April and May and that these nights you can redeem from 5/15 – 7/15.  Well guess what?  Unbeknownst to me I earned at least four free nights.  That’s pretty cool, I could have arranged a great mini-vacation somewhere at one of the top notch hotels in the chain.  Why didn’t I know about this?  Well guess what, they don’t tell you that you when you’ve earned them, don’t show you that you’ve earned them, nor do they necessarily tell you about them as a result of these promotions.

Towards the end of May I got an email message indicating that I had free night(s) that were valid from 5/15 (15 days ago) to 7/15.  They didn’t tell me why I had earned the free night nor how many free nights I had earned.  I figured that I had just earned a single one since why would I think I had earned more than that?  So Sherri and I plan for an evening out in Seattle to stay at the W without the kids and start working out the who can watch the kids, when can we go, etc.  So last night I called them up to make the reservation.  At that point in time, he asks me how many nights I want to book.  I say one.  He then asks me if I want to do anything with the other 3 nights!  I’m totally astonished at this point, what other nights?  How come you didn’t tell me about them, etc?

Well after talking to this person and then the customer relations department, they’re like “You have to track them yourself” and “We’ve never had any complaints on this before”.  To me this is completely frustrating as I can go to their website see an accurate accounting of every visit, rebook the same hotel probably even get into the details of the hotel bill, but ABSOLUTELY no where on their site is any information about the “rewards” that I’ve earned as a result of this promotion.  Sure the “points” I’ve earned for stays are there, but not this other information.  I ask them about this and they say that they don’t do this.  I ask them how am I supposed to remember what I signed up for and when it’s all valid?  “You’re just supposed to remember”.

Am I crazy or is this just totally unacceptable?

I ask them to at least allow me to use some of the free nights at a later date.  “Sorry you can’t do that”.  I ask to talk to someone in the promotions department since this is just a total farce.  “Sorry there isn’t anyone you can talk to – you can go to our website and leave an email message and it will get routed to the proper department”.  Can I just get the direct email address?  “No” and it goes on.

So I go to the email website write an nice long email asking for my rewards to be used at a later point as well as to indicate to them that I feel they’re being negligent in the way that they run their promotions and how they don’t notify in advance or as rewards are accumulated nor that there is any tracking or even remnants of the promotion available on their website. 

Today I got an email message back (snipped):

 Please be advised, regrettably we cannot extend the usage dates of the 'stay 6 nights and earn 1 free Weekend night' Promotion.  We appreciate the time you have taken to share your comments. Please be assured that your input will serve as a valuable tool in the evaluation and enhancement of our frequent traveler program. 

Pretty much a stock email message that reads to me as “too bad…”.  No apology about the way that they run the promotions, just thanks for the feedback.  I know I’m not insane, but this is the kind of answer I expect from a Kmart not a hotel change that’s trying to have some of the more upscale facilities.  A Nordstrom like answer would have been.  Thank you for indicating the deficiencies in the current process used for promotions.  We regret the inconvenience this may have caused and will look into provide a better solution for our valued customers.  An answer like that would have gone a long way, they don’t need to even provide me with the usage of the rewards, but it’s a real apology recognizing their issue.

How do you treat your customers?

I know at Microsoft at least in the groups I have worked with, I can’t speak for the company at large or even for the company we try to be upfront an honest and acknowledge our problems.  We made the mistake, it’s our software, we designed it, we screwed up; how can we fix it for you, personally?  Am I just expecting too much?

P.S. if you know someone at Starwood who’s willing to take this on, I’d love to talk with them.

 

 

Published Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:42 PM by EvanF
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Well, this is exactly how Microsoft treats its customers when it comes to sales and licensing. Bought Software Assurance to get an upgrade and no ugrade is released? So sorry. Have mutliple Select agreements that could be cheaper if you were to consolidate them? Don't count on MS to point that out. Ask Microsoft how your supposed to keep track of which copies of Windows were from OEM shipments, which were bought through Select, etc. and you get the same answer: just keep track. The result is that most companies are over-licensing, paying Microsoft more than they should because it's virtually impossible to track everything to the letter and they are afraid of an audit--which, according to the terms of your license agreements, MS can require you to perform at your expense.
Thursday, June 17, 2004 6:32 PM by Greg

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What's amusing here is that if the dude at the hotel had kept his mouth shut you would have been none the wiser and much happier. So yes it's certainly an example of poor communication but not necessarily in the way you might suppose!

I expect many rewards programs are like this. The company relies on customers not actually redeeming the awards before they expire - if they did they could never afford to make the offer in the first place. (I seem to remember a case a few years ago where a vacuum cleaner company actually did go out of business because of an over-generous promotion that everybody claimed!)
Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:44 PM by Brian

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Let me see if I got this right. You are refusing to do business with them because they have given you a free stay that you didn't even know about and now they won't extend the time on their promotion because you have even more free nights than you thought? I don't suppose the 6 nights you stayed for each free night happened to be expensed so was actually free too huh? I don't want to imagine how much you would bitch if you found a winning lottery ticket on the street.

-- Don --
Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:09 PM by Don Newman

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No, I'm not bitching about them not extending the free nights, I'm bitching about their process where you have no clue that you have made any such earnings. No information on statements, websites etc to let you know that you qualified for something. I'm bitching about their process and the fact that they don't realize or won't admit that it's broken and not customer friendly.

And actually I had taken my entire family including grandparents for 10 days in Hawaii were we stayed in one of their hotels (which is what triggered all of this). We had a good time but literally spent a small fortune on a once in a lifetime vacation.
Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:36 PM by Evan

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From http://flyertalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=429

For Starwood Preferred Guest-related issues - such as missing Starpoints, missing stays, promotion issues, airline transfer follow-ups, etc. – you can either call the Customer Contact Center nearest you using the number on the reverse of your membership card or send an email to starwood.preferred.guest@starwoodhotels.com. If you are asked to fax us a hotel bill, the number to use is 512-836-4002. You can send the issue to me for follow-up at guest.forum@starwoodhotels.com should this prove to be unfruitful, but I would appreciate your efforts through normal channels first.
Friday, June 18, 2004 3:55 AM by MM

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While I appreciate your frustration (believe me, I would be just as livid), I can't say I necessarily blame them.

It's clear that the information was available, even if not online - after all, you only found out when the rep told you on the phone.

Admittedly, there are some benefits to having you stay there for free (marketing, spending at restaurants, etc), but why should they go out of their way to do so? Especially when they can (presumably) just as easily rent the room to a paying customer?

It's poor customer service, but it's certainly not "negligent". They have no duty to make sure you know about these promotions, and if you don't 'care' enough to stay on top of it, why should they?

You're just mad, like I would be, that you have to talk to a real person to find out and be dilgent about it, rather than being able to check a website....

:)
Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:41 PM by Tim Marman

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