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Multiple PCs in the Household

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how people use multiple PCs in their household, why bother to get multiple PCs and what unique issues arise about having these multiple PCs.  The funny thing here is that most of the people I can easily turn and talk to aren’t what I’d consider the average type person out there (including myself).  There are people here who have 4 or 5 machines some with specific purposes or others who just simply have a PC for everyone in the household and some have servers running the family website and managing the household in the background. 

 

My setup is again pretty unique.  I’ve got a main PC for the house running multiple monitors that pretty much is the exclusive use of my wife for surfing the net, managing the club she belongs to, and doing email.  I’ll use it occasionally to look at our finances, but that’s about it.  Meanwhile, we have another machine sitting next to this one for our girls to use, and then there’s a 1+ TB PC out in the garage that serves up children’s TV shows to the Replay in the family room.  Like I said, not typical at all.  Of course all this means that I have to be the household IT professional, making sure that the machines are working, on and that something hasn’t failed (like a drive in the server out in the garage) or that the broadband connection to the router is working fine, etc.  The funny thing however is that my main machine at home is my laptop (or tablet) depending on which I’m actually using at the time.  So in a lot of ways the home infrastructure really isn’t all that important to me personally other than the fact that I can get a wireless connection to the internet.

 

Okay so what I really want to know from people is not what their setup is, but rather what are the things that are hassles for them that are the results of having multiple PCs?  And what do you do about it?  I’ve got my list, but I don’t want to contaminate or steer the direction in any particular way, I want to hear what you all have to say!

 

Published Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:50 PM by EvanF

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# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

I've never really had a problem with multiple PC's that I haven't introduced myself, :p. I currently have a Windows 2003 server for AD and DHCP, a media server hooked up the main TV, my workstation, and my wife's laptop (all of which run XP). Everything runs pretty smoothly except when I screw up the DHCP or something stupid. The last hassle I had was when I decided to change the domain name, my wife was annoyed she had to copy over all her settings to a new login.

When I was in college, we had networked our two neighboring apartments together and had about 11 PC's running on it. It was a mish-mash of Windows 2000, 98, and 95. THAT was a hassle.
Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:12 AM by Scott Williams

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

My wife and I each have our own home machines, the kids have a theirs and finally a fourth box that is the server. I use my work laptop about 50% as well.

About a year ago I experimented with buying a BIG box that I installed Terminal Services on and everyone else had cheap boxes but good monitors.

Unfortunately, it didn't work out as well as I wanted and the total cost ended up being more, both in terms of money and time. Most kids games wouldn't work via TS and my wife was always trying to install something that wouldn't work from her machine.

Optimally, I'd get rid of every machine and have a single file server and three laptops with 17" displays.
Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:21 AM by Tony Frey

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

I had a spot of trouble with the WiFi. The answer turned out to be to try another security protocol for the WiFi base station and the computer. Switching from WEP to WPA PSK did the trick.
Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:53 AM by Doug

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

2 laptops, one for the wife, one for me, then there's the SQL server, the mail server and the IIS server.

And there's a NAS coming when I can afford it.

Problems? None with the PCs, but the wireless access point that the servers connect to is very prone to seizing when there's a power spike. Even with a filter between it and the mains.
Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:55 AM by Barry Dorrans

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

Well multiple PC’s, the biggest problem is I think the same problem for everyone, updates. Ok I am not the typical user either, I don’t think anyone reading the msdn blogs is a typical user. But, I do support a typical user network, that of my sisters. Now at home, I have multiple servers, a 2000, a 2003, SQL Server running, IIS running even Active Directory up and going cause really getting a workgroup network going anymore is actually wonky (My term for fubar) anymore seems something weird has happened to that over time. Then I have my main PC which is a big Alienware beast. Personal files and so on are moved off to the servers, also the server are used as test develop but usually on stable builds of my own, unstable builds and so on get tested on a Virtual PC which master images are saved off on the servers. All this for just little old me.

Now my sisters home. She has 2 computers, Laptop and Desktop, Husband 2 laptops, one for work one for ebay. 3 teenage kids, each has a laptop, 2 of them have Alienware gaming systems. And one has an Xbox running wireless as well. Ok so we are a Microsoft Family. But now they know nothing about networks, PC’s, just my phone number. Sometimes their house has small LAN Parties there as well which involve a bunch of teen boys playing Halo, War craft, and various other networked games.

Now I am not worried about the other kids computers they bring over except when my nephew shuts down his Antivirus, and so on to play his games faster. Also making my nephew patch he tried to shut down everything non essential to making the game run. My Sis and Brother in law and one nephew leave MS Update on and religiously update. The other 2, well they have problems.

Anyway, in both scenarios my home and their home. Going around updating everything is difficult. It is also nothing for one of the kids that come over and don’t have their PC with them to grab one of the laptops, sign on to it and then install something. My poor brother in law got messages from teenage kids on MSN messenger for over a month at random any time he signed his PC on because one of the visiting children installed MSN messenger which default is set to sign on all the time. He had no idea what it was, he didn’t care as long as he could get to eBay. I did solve the problem, and taught the kid never to leave his user name signed in and set to auto sign in by Changing his screen name to IamaPigF**ker and then left him logged in and answered a lot of IM’s from startled teens to see that name sign on to their buddy list. So the other problem is locking down pc’s centrally without setting up a huge active directory server, without purchasing corporate editions of software, without running WUS and MOM, without the overhead of an enterprise. Everyone in that family works, and they are not poor, it is nothing for them to call me up one day and say hey we got another PC what’s that WEP Key thing again? I am seriously now waiting for them to come home one day with the new internet radio’s or a media center. I haven’t told them about it yet because then that’s another device for me to have to try and configure and support.
Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:32 PM by Jeff Parker

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Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:53 PM by Evan's Weblog of Tech and Life

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

For me, "normal" updating is not too bad but certain updates can be quite a chore (the GDI+ update is still fresh in the memory...)
Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:19 PM by Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

Wireless Linksys Router jacks up from time to time
My wife's laptop which she takes to school has to deal with our home Microsoft network and school's Novell network. Ugh
Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:22 PM by dru

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

As always wives come in the way of logic.

I have an AMD 64-bit that I want to use for testing 64-bit Operating Systems, but as this is the newest machine my wife wants to use it (under XP Pro 32-bit) so I'm forced to dual-boot to the 64-bit OS's and in effect end up using her XP Pro for normal work (she's bound to ask me to leave it on after I've finished and won't want to re-boot).

The other machine connected to the same TFT screen is used if I want to test accessing a server (for MVP work) and don't want to crank up the portable (and/or use VPC). It's also there in case the main machine has a major disk crash or similar and doesn't work for days. (Experience!)

Then there's the portable which has lots of memory and VPC and is my test bed for the client/server apps I need as an MVP and also is a storage location for all the information on that MVP area. That I mostly use at weekends when I have time for such "messing about" and don't want to sit at a desk. Evenings I use the desktop to do newsgroup stuff as it doesn't take so long.
Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:14 AM by Mike Walsh Helsinki

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

I have a server, workstation and laptop, ipaq (wifi), smartphone(bluetooth), xbox (wifi link) and others in bits and pieces when I can be bothered to assemble them.

Since xp I have no problems, but would love to reduce the amount of kit. I have a 3com wifi adsl modem, I just wish it could do usb printing and I would love to have a samba file share where I plug a double drive unit doing mirroring into usb/firewire/ethernet (pref for backup/access speed). No more server requirements, less kit, less complexity. But thats my dream.
Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:37 AM by SimonT

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

I smell opportunity to become the neighborhood repairman for the non-technical folks. To be totally secure, no remote access will be allowed to the core systems, so it'll be an onsite visit and something that can't be outsourced....
Wednesday, October 06, 2004 4:47 AM by James

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

My home environment looks like this

http://steves.businessblog.com/blog/Workspace/HomeWorking/_archives/2004/7/25/129384.html

I would really like to transition everyone else in the home to terminal services and then they can just roam around using any machine and I only need to maintain the terminal server. Just not got around to setting up a licence server and upgrading from admin mode yet, so at the moment only my eldest daughter and me use WTS.

Running everything as an AD W2003 environment makes my life easier though. Sorting out the problems associated with everyone else running without admin priv is my biggest headache, but it would probably be worse if they all ran WITH admin priv.
Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:52 AM by Steve

# re: Multiple PCs in the Household

I want to know more about the Longhorn Castle. Does it still exist without WinFS. Will there still be sync capabilities even without winfs in longhorn. Its a bit much for most people to set up an AD Domain, and server 2k3 is very expensive, but something that makes managing multiple PCs withing the home easier is very much in demand.
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