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Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Today Eric Patterson returns with a few more guest posts on Compatibility.

Thus far the discussion about compatibility has been focused on how new features in Excel 2007 are handled when saving files to previous versions or when working in Compatibility Mode.  The flip side of the discussion is the list of features that are being deprecated for Excel 2007.  That will be the topic for today’s post.

Why Remove Anything?

Before jumping to the list of which features are being deprecated or removed, let me say that we never make decisions lightly about removing functionality that has been in the product.  We rarely remove functionality and strive for backwards compatibility with every version.  When we do make changes to functionality that has been in the product we do so when we believe it will be a benefit to the majority of our customers by helping us to make forward progress.

The List

Natural Language Formulas

This feature allowed people to use the labels of columns and rows on worksheets to refer to the cells adjacent to those cells without explicitly defining them as names.  This feature has been disabled by default since Excel 2000 based on customer feedback.  In Excel 12 we will completely remove this seldom-used feature from the product.  When opening files in Excel 2007 that use this feature, formulas will be converted to use cell references.

Note: This feature could be found in the Excel 11 options dialog with the title “Accept labels in formulas”

Insert Name Label

This command allowed people to more explicitly specify labels for Natural Language Formulas and is being removed as part of that feature.

Data Retrieval Services

In Office 2003, we introduced a new type of external data connection known as Data Retrieval Services.  Data Retrieval Services is a web service protocol for querying different data sources, and was originally intended as a new standard for getting data into Office applications.  Moving forward, however, we will no longer be investing in Data Retrieval Services.  The customer demand for something like this was much smaller than originally anticipated.

File Format Support

Historically Excel has supported many different data formats.  We have determined that a number of these older formats are seldom, if ever used.  We are removing support for some file types to allow us to devote more of our efforts towards the file formats that are being used.  Theses formats are being deprecated in 2 ways.  For the set of file formats with the lowest usage, we will be discontinuing support for opening and saving of these formats.  For the second set that has some minimal usage, we will support loading the files in Excel 2007 to allow you to save them in a newer format.

The following formats cannot be opened or saved in Excel 2007:

  • WK1 (1-2-3)
  • WK4 (1-2-3)
  • WJ3 (1-2-3 Japanese) (.wj3)
  • WKS (1-2-3)
  • WK3,(1-2-3)
  • WK1,FMT(1-2-3)
  • WJ2 (1-2-3 Japanese) (.wj2)
  • WJ3, FJ3 (1-2-3 Japanese) (.wj3)
  • DBF 2 (dBASE II)
  • WQ1 (Quattro Pro/DOS)
  • WK3,FM3(1-2-3)
  • Microsoft Excel Chart (.xlc)
  • WK1,ALL(1-2-3)
  • WJ1 (1-2-3 Japanese) (.wj1)
  • WKS (Works Japanese) (.wks)

The following formats may be opened, but not saved to in Excel 2007:

  • Microsoft Excel 2.1 Worksheet
  • Microsoft Excel 2.1 Macro
  • Microsoft Excel 3.0 Worksheet
  • Microsoft Excel 3.0 Macro
  • Microsoft Excel 4.0 Worksheet
  • Microsoft Excel 4.0 Macro
  • Microsoft Excel 97- Excel 2003 & 5.0/95 Workbook
  • Microsoft Excel 4.0 Workbook
  • DBF 3 (dBASE III)
  • DBF 4 (dBASE IV)

HTML File Format

Excel 2007 will no longer store “Excel only” feature information in our HTML file formats.  Based on very limited usage as a primary file format, we will not save Excel specific tags that retain Excel functionality when re-opened. 

We have found that Excel’s “Save as HTML” feature is used as a publishing format and we will continue to support it as a way to create a document to be viewed in a web browser.  Excel will still open HTML files and any Excel specific features contained in the file that was created in a previous version will be preserved.  Such files should be saved in one of the new file formats as a primary version of the document and published to HTML when desired.

HTML Save with Interactivity

Previous versions of Excel allowed for publishing of Excel files to HTML with interactivity using the Microsoft Office Web Components.  With the introduction of Excel Services, our ongoing investments in creating interactive spreadsheets in a web browser will be focused on Excel Services.  As part of this focus we will be removing support for saving HTML files with interactivity using the Office Web Components.

Integration with Microsoft Script Editor

As part of our decision to move away from supporting HTML as a full-fidelity file format, integration with Microsoft Script Editor (MSE) has been removed from Excel, Word and Powerpoint in Office 2007. 

In Excel, this means the following:

  • Script debugging components are no longer installed by default in an Office install
  • UI related to Microsoft Script Editor, View HTML Source, and manipulating HTML Scripts is no longer in the default UI
  • The HTMLProject Object Model is no longer functional (trying to access it will cause runtime errors)
  • Script objects (Worksheet.Scripts) can still be added to a worksheet, but will not roundtrip in the new file formats.  They will continue to roundtrip through older file formats
  • MSE is still installed by Office so you can run it “standalone” and edit HTML Files that way, if you want to.  Note that, aside from the setup changes to the debugging components, this does not affect MSE in Outlook, FrontPage or InfoPath.

What are we doing with Script Tags:

  • No change when saving to previous version file formats.  For new file formats, the information in ScriptTags is written out along with other drawing properties to the legacy drawing part of a given worksheet.  The script information does not roundtrip in the new file formats– it saves, but it does not load.  It will “re-persist” through another save (we keep the information in memory).

List Insert Row

The List feature in Excel 2003 has a special row at the bottom that is used for adding new records to the list.  In Excel 2007, the insert row has been removed based on feedback that we have heard from customers.  Lists (now Tables) have been improved, making it easy to add data by using the Tab key in the last row of the Table or by typing or pasting data directly below the Table.

Writeback to SharePoint

Excel 2003 added the ability to connect to (read) and update (write) to lists that reside on SharePoint sites.  Moving forward we are focusing our efforts on Access as the best way for writing data to lists on SharePoint and taking SharePoint lists offline.

For Excel we are deprecating the update behavior in the following ways:

  • Existing files from Excel 2003 will load and continue to support update functionality when opened in Excel 2007.
  • Lists linked to SharePoint will be converted to read-only Tables when existing files are saved to the new Excel 12 file formats.
  • It is still possible to “publish” a Table to SharePoint, however this is a one-time write to SharePoint.

OLAP Cube Wizard

In Previous versions of Excel, the OLAP Cube Wizard would allow you to create OLAP Cube files from relational data sources.  This feature allowed for adding hierarchical data organization to relation data for viewing relational data in PivotTables and storage of the data in a separate file.  The OLAP Cube Wizard has been removed from Excel 2007 based on the limited use of the feature.  PivotTables based on relational data may still be created using the more common methods of directly connecting to the relational data or importing into an Excel sheet.

Support for Pattern Fills

Pattern fills for shape objects has been deprecated in favor of Picture and Texture fills.  Existing files will appear the same when loaded.  The ability to create new shapes with the previous pattern fills has been deprecated as part of the new drawing capabilities.

Alternate Navigation Keys in Excel 4 files

Excel 4 files had the ability to store a setting that enabled Alternate Navigation Keys when the files were opened in previous versions of Excel.  We are not carrying that setting forward with the new file formats.  Opening files with this setting will not enable Alternate Navigation Keys.  You may still enable Alternate Navigation Keys using the Excel settings for an individual user.

Sound Notes

The ability to add and play sound notes in cells was removed several versions ago, but the sound was still persisted in the file format.  We will now remove the sound note when opening such a file in Excel 2007.

PS Updated "opened but not saved list" to correct typo.

Published Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:18 AM by David Gainer

Comments

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:34 PM by Sam
Thanks for the info. This is useful to know.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:09 PM by Phillip W. Lundeen
You say the following formats can't be opened or saved in Excel 2007...
WK1 (1-2-3)
WK4 (1-2-3)
WKS (1-2-3)
WK3,(1-2-3)
WK1,FMT(1-2-3)
DBF 2 (dBASE II)
WQ1 (Quattro Pro/DOS)
WK3,FM3(1-2-3)
Microsoft Excel Chart (.xlc)
WK1,ALL(1-2-3)

Then in the next section, you list them again as being able TO OPEN but not save.  

Which is correct?

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:36 PM by Eric Patterson
Phillip,

This is the correct list of files that can be opened, but not saved:

Microsoft Excel 2.1 Worksheet
Microsoft Excel 2.1 Macro
Microsoft Excel 3.0 Worksheet
Microsoft Excel 3.0 Macro
Microsoft Excel 4.0 Worksheet
Microsoft Excel 4.0 Macro
Microsoft Excel 97- Excel 2003 & 5.0/95 Workbook
Microsoft Excel 4.0 Workbook
DBF 3 (dBASE III)
DBF 4 (dBASE IV)

The second list should not have also included the entries from the first list.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:08 PM by A User
Thanks for the heads up! A couple of these will be causing some excitement over here.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:26 PM by David Gainer
Note - I updated the blog to provide the correct list.  A User, which items in particular do you think will "cause excitement"?

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:56 PM by John S.
Am I missing something or can you only save to the 2007 format? Can I create a new workbook in 2007 and save it in a format someone with 2003 can open?

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:16 PM by edward@whishaw.co.uk
Really disappointed that you are removing patterns; I use them frequently to ensure documents I produce can be printed in black and white as well as colour.  In particular, I use this for producing resource allocation spreadsheets where the conditional formatting is used intensively.

Why bin patterns?  The textures you have have always been useless junk.  Pictures are good, though.  Sod's law says I'll have to make the patterns myself.  Cross shading was especially useful, and the intermittent dot patterns were essential for older colour printers to distinguish shades and for B&Ws that couldn't tell light grey from yellow without the shading.

I can't control the printer quality because work provides the printers.  Can you give me patterns back?  Please, please, please?

[please email me a reply personally if you get a chance, this matters to me lots.]

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:31 PM by Vic Eldridge
"pattern fills has been deprecated as part of the new drawing capabilities"

This is bad news.  We use the patterns regularly here, and textures and pictures can not provide the same functionality.  I join Edward in pleading to give them back.

And what exactly are these "new drawing capabilities" ?  I don't recall them being discussed on this blog.  

Regards,
Vic Eldridge

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 12:22 AM by Stephane Rodriguez

It seems to me there is a ton more features getting canned. At least in the UI, I have not taken the time to verify in the .xslx file itself. Perhaps that's because it's a beta2 codebase, I am not sure.

Charts : the ability to interactively move the 3D chart with the mouse ; some chart axis formatting options seem to have been streamlined ; ...

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 9:14 AM by A
Patterns still work in cells (though not in OfficeArt) in Beta 2.  Is it just the OfficeArt that is losing pattern capabilities?

The Powerpoint - OfficeArt blog talks about the new drawing capabilities
https://blogs.msdn.com/powerpoint/

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 10:27 AM by Francis
All good decisions, save the removal of patterns. Home users and printing shops may have color printers, but most offices continue to use black and white.

Color fills often turn to varying, and bands and dithers when printed monochrome. Likewise, image fills often lose definition and print too dark. The result are indistinguishable shades of gray and a useless chart.

Admittedly, the patterns are somewhat dated. Why not update them, adding new ones? More elaborate, distinctive patterns (such as paisley or floral) could be created if the dimensions of the grid they use is increased.

Check out this site:
http://k10k.net/frames.aspx?section=patterns

Excel could use similar patterns. Most use no more than 3 or 4 colors, which could be linked to Excel's theme colors (so when you change the theme, the pattern would update to match.) When printed in black and white, many (including all 2-color patterns) of these patterns would elegantly "flatten" down to monochrome.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 10:28 AM by Francis
All good decisions, save the removal of patterns. Home users and printing shops may have color printers, but most offices continue to use black and white.

Color fills often turn to varying, and bands and dithers when printed monochrome. Likewise, image fills often lose definition and print too dark. The result are indistinguishable shades of gray and a useless chart.

Admittedly, the patterns are somewhat dated. Why not update them, adding new ones? More elaborate, distinctive patterns (such as paisley or floral) could be created if the dimensions of the grid they use is increased.

Check out this site:
http://k10k.net/frames.aspx?section=patterns

Excel could use similar patterns. Most use no more than 3 or 4 colors, which could be linked to Excel's theme colors (so when you change the theme, the pattern would update to match.) When printed in black and white, many (including all 2-color patterns) of these patterns would elegantly "flatten" down to monochrome.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 10:55 AM by Eric Patterson
John S. - We only removed a few, seldom used file formats as shown by our instrumentation.  You can still save to many file formats, such as the Excel 97-2003 format.  See the post on "All About File Formats" for more information.

Edward, Vic, Francis - Thanks for the feedback on Patterns.  We are hoping to provide pictures of the patterns that we had previously such that you can get similar results using texture fills.

A - Cells do still support patterns.  Only pattern fills for shapes are affected.

Stephane - There are some additional deprecated features in the area of Charting which I will pull together for another post.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 11:00 AM by Francis
Oops, should have read "Various colors all turn to gray, and band and dither...."

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 4:35 PM by A User
David - Thanks for asking about the excitement, it's more like mild stimulation.

- Writeback to SharePoint -
A few things here were recently implemented this way just because it is really, really simple and, of course, it was very lightweight stuff.

(Names withheld to protect the innocent. I expect to be asked to help people move their stuff to Access, or build a Rube Goldberg with Access in between, but I will decline. I consider Access an awkward product that is neither easy enough for lightweight users nor robust enough for heavy lifting, but that is a story for another day....)

- Formats That Cannot Be Opened -
A surprising amount of Lotus 1-2-3 r5 archive is still used here as "point of reference" on a read only basis. (Mostly: long term pro forma models.) I expect a rather boring campaign to convert working reference copies of the archive, which will make them a whole lot easier to use anyway.

(Names withheld to protect the guilty. People resisted converting them out of concern for purity of the archive. I suspect the only reason was to justify keeping originals on line by saying "I still use this.")

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 4:45 PM by Harlan Grove
No support for 123's .WK4 format means I won't need to worry about getting XL12 at work for the next few years. Same situation as A User: lots of archived historical .WK4 files. FWIW, where I work 123 was still in daily use until last Fall.

Since you already have code that can open all these other file formats and save them in XLS file format, you could write a standalone utility to convert files to XLS format without having to alter XL12 itself. Or have the senior execs bought big stakes in DataViz?

Also, dropping the OLAP cube wizard is questionable. It's the type of fature that any sensible person would realize would be rarely used by a tiny subset of Excel users/developers (like the FFT data analysis tool), but when needed is very useful if not essential. Does this mean that local .CUB files will also be deprecated, so pivot tables tied to OLAP sources can't change when offline?

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Friday, August 25, 2006 4:53 PM by Francis
A thought about formats--

What happens if users replace their Office 2003 installs with 2007? They may find themselves in for a surprise, staring at old files that they can no longer open and have no way to convert.

Reinstalling 2003 would provide a means of migration, but it is generally a bad idea to install old products over/alongside newer ones. (And many deployments do not give users the media, license rights, and privileges necessary to do that.)

Possible solution: provide a standalone obsolete format to XLS converter. The code already exists for this--you need only separate it out of Office 2003. The converter would be a runtime Excel 2003 with all features removed except legacy format import and XLS save.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Saturday, August 26, 2006 7:49 AM by Ross MIE
David or Eric, or anyone!

"

The following formats may be opened, but not saved to in Excel 2007:
...
   * Microsoft Excel 97- Excel 2003 & 5.0/95
"

I must be miss understanding, are you saying that i cant save a file in office format 97-2003?

So if i make a 2007 file ca only be used in 2007?

this cant be right?

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Saturday, August 26, 2006 8:20 AM by Colin Banfield
<<<The following formats may be opened, but not saved to in Excel 2007:
* Microsoft Excel 97- Excel 2003 & 5.0/95

I must be miss understanding, are you saying that i cant save a file in office format 97-2003?

So if i make a 2007 file ca only be used in 2007? <<<

Ross, Excel 97- Excel 2003 & 5.0/95 is a dual file format that allowed you to save a file in versions of Excel from 97 to 2003 and open the file in any Excel version from 5 to 2003. Since there was a file format change in Excel 97, the dual format provided backward compatibility with 5/95 while retaining the features in 97-2003.

In Excel 2007, you can save files in 97-2003 format but the additional support for 5/95 has been dropped.

# 123's .WK4 format

Saturday, August 26, 2006 8:12 PM by Boh Redd
Harlan, now all they need is to find those other two guys who still use .wk4

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Sunday, August 27, 2006 5:19 AM by Ross MIE
Colin,
...Arhhh! Excellent! Thanks for clearing that up, didn't think i would be the case.

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# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Sunday, August 27, 2006 2:22 PM by Isaac Matarasso
It would be ashame to lose the ability to open up old .wk* files.  If this functionality could be provided either as a downloaded standalone utility or add-in, that would be much preferable to not being able to do so at all.  

Unfortunately, old files in these formats still exist out there...

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Monday, August 28, 2006 2:33 AM by kojiishi
Writing back to SharePoint is a big loss. You said Access is the one to do it, but most people don't have Access.
Access is a database tool, and we use SharePoint list since it is much more lightweight. Loosing write back in Excel is a big loss for SharePoint.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Monday, August 28, 2006 4:35 AM by Heidi
What about Draw Borders feature?

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Monday, August 28, 2006 7:26 AM by Ian Huitson
I am still waiting for Maps to be brought back after it was dropped from Excel 97 -> 2000 :-(

I really dont want to buy Map Point

Hui...

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Monday, August 28, 2006 10:00 AM by Colin Banfield
<<What about Draw Borders feature?<<

It's there, but submerged in the Command Well.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Monday, August 28, 2006 10:40 AM by Extortion
Nice idea about removing SharePoint from Excel.  And thanks for the heads-up!  Now that we've invested a lot of infrastructure on this feature, it's good to have it removed.  

Now we must purchase a more expensive Office version to do the same functionality and train everyone on Access.  The benefits as I see it are that our IT staff has job security (or they will be fired for investing in an obsolete technology) and it helps the Microsoft bottom line.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Monday, August 28, 2006 1:01 PM by Harlan Grove
Boh Redd: there may not be many daily 123 users left, but there are millions of archived .WK? files in most medium to large size companies. There may not be any need to WRITE .WK? files any more, but there's still need to OPEN them from time to time. Consider legal discovery.

All: no one can say whether offline .CUB files would still be supported? Or open existing ones still supported but no facility to create new ones?

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Monday, August 28, 2006 2:45 PM by Colin Banfield
<<Boh Redd: there may not be many daily 123 users left, but there are millions of archived .WK? files in most medium to large size companies. There may not be any need to WRITE .WK? files any more, but there's still need to OPEN them from time to time. Consider legal discovery. <<

The question is; Is it Excel's responsibility to support another product's format forever?  Given that support for .WK? would have been dropped sooner or later anyway, if these old files are really that important, someone should create a batch converter to convert these files to something else - like Office XML.

# Чего не может Excel 2007... [Эрик Паттерсон]

Monday, August 28, 2006 5:25 PM by Олег Михайлик
...из того, что мог Excel 2003. А оказывается, довольно много чего &quot;порезали&quot;.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Monday, August 28, 2006 5:52 PM by Eric Patterson
Francis, Colin - Office will make available a bulk file converter for the conversion of files.  I don't have any additional details at this time.

Kojiishi, Extortion - Regarding writeback to SharePoint; You cannot create new read/write Lists linked to SharePoint in Excel 12, but existing lists will remain read/write when kept in the existing file formats.

Harlan - Excel will continue to support connection to offline .CUB files.  We are deprecating the interface for creating .CUB files for relational data in Excel.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:44 AM by Extortion
Eric, you are correct, we can leave it in the old version.  Which means we get none of the benefits of Excel 2007 in our integrated Excel/SharePoint systems we developed.  The feature is deprecated which means probably no support and will disappear soon.

Why introduce features and kill them in the next version?  When was this decision made?  When?  WHEN?  How many months or years have we been developing with this feature and Microsoft knew they were killing it?  Did they know it 2004? 2005?  That would have saved us a lot of money and time!  That right there is what upsets me most!!

What if we spend the money and time to move everything to Access and you do the same thing again...flash foward...

8/25/2011 - Deprecated features in Access 2011:

- Writeback to SharePoint

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:34 PM by Matthew
There are still lots of "missing in action" features that aren't officially deprecated. What about these, which aren't in the ribbon:
- Scenarios
- Compare and merge workbooks
- Email review chain
- Direct border drawing
- Document properties

Has the deprecated feature list just not caught up, or are these features available to people who don't mind customizing the Quick Access toolbar?

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:41 PM by Harlan Grove
Colin, Microsoft would be the only entity with any sound reason to create a converter for .WK? files to Office XML. Any other sane persons would target OpenDocument.

I'll be waiting patiently for Microsoft to open source their no longer valuable code for parsing .WK? files.

But the main point is that lack of .WK? open-only support won't HELP sales.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:16 PM by Colin Banfield
<<Colin, Microsoft would be the only entity with any sound reason to create a converter for .WK? files to Office XML. Any other sane persons would target OpenDocument.<<

Harlan, OpenDocument did cross my mind, but I thought that OpenDocument didn't support spreadsheet formulas. Or is this notion based on Microsoft propaganda? :^)

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:15 PM by Francis
"there may not be many daily 123 users left"

Actually, I had to use the .wk3 format today, via Excel 2003. It was the only way to get my _new_ Excel 2007 data into Access 2007. Access refuses to import both my XLS and XLSX files! (Even though Excel 2003 and 2007 read them without objection.)

If Excel is jettisoning these formats, why does Access 2007 still support them (import and export of 1-2-3, dBase, Paradox!)

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:22 PM by Harlan Grove
Colin, OpenOffice uses OpenDocument, OpenOffice has a spreadsheet, that spreadsheet uses formulas. Draw the lines between the dots.

Microsoft spread misinformation?! All you have to do is read the explanation in the KB for why Excel 97 through 2003 can't use entire columns in array formulas to know the answer to that.

Francis, perhaps the Access developers are aware of legacy Clipper applications still in use that generate .WK? files. Does FoxPro generate .WK? files?

How about this rhetorical question: how many more SYLK and DIF files users must there be vs. WK? file users that the former file formats are still supported open & save? Guess they still support SYLK because of all the millions of Multiplan users there were one upon a time.

# re: Deprecated features for Excel 2007

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:31 AM by David Colver
WK* capability will be much missed here.  As others have said, it's a widely followed standard for transferring material between applications of widely different ages; and there are tons of legacy WK* files.

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