Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

KRis — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:12:43 GMT

Hello Gerry,

Can U tell us When will the beta exam result arrive?!?

(71-565)

THX!

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:21:44 GMT

Hi Kris,

Sorry but I can't tell you anymore than what you read on the exam instructions when you take it at Prometric.

It indicates that results will be available around the time the exam goes live.

I can't anymore specific because the results are affected by many factors.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Geoff — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:11:21 GMT

Maybe I have miss understood but I think the links have changed a little for some of the exams, so prep for 70-565 is at

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/Exams/70-565.aspx

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:16:58 GMT

Hi Geoff,

You're not missing anything actually.

We have a new publishing system for these prep guides, as you can tell from the layout of this one.

I don't always get notification when these are published live.

The older prep guides are published using .mspx extensions rather than the .aspx used in the newer ones.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

KRis — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:23:03 GMT

Hi Gerry,

Sorry for the bother.

It was not malicious...

Just I am, we are excited and curious :)

Because there were some case when i've got a result before the published release/go live date (what are on the exam page), and there was other when not...

So it isn't deterministic and evident for us.

Sorry again,

Go back to work :)

KRis

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:27:35 GMT

Hi KRis,

It's no bother and certainly not thought of as malicious. :-)

I just answer that question about a 1000 times a day and every time I tell someone a specific date, I'm always wrong. So I steer clear of that now. :-)

I don't want to go back to work just now. But I am getting breakfast and getting ready for a 3 hour meeting. :-)

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Ariel — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:20:28 GMT

Hi Gerry, is this exam one of the exams with Self-Paced Training Kits you told us in a previous post?

If so, why did you decide not to make some Training kits?

Thanks a lot.

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:32:25 GMT

Hi Ariel,

This exam will not have a TK.

The reasons are mostly budgetary in nature. The planners only have so much budget to create these books and when it comes to which ones get created, ROI is the biggest deciding factor.

We have found through research and sales analysis that most people seeking the pro level certificataions do not use training kits. Although there are exceptions.

So, the Product Planner made a decision as to which training kits he would create, and the remaining exams don't get one specifically.

Gerry

If you’re interested in certification Exam 70-565…

Microsoft Press — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:50:33 GMT

…Gerry O’Brien blogs the prep guide here . He’s also got a status update on other developer exam release

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Arun — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:47:38 GMT

Hi Gerry,

In the Prep guide for 70-502, in the Microsoft Press products section, the self-paced training kit for 70-502 which is already released is not mentioned. Instead WPF - A scenario based approach with a release date of February 2010 is mentioned. Any specific reasons?

And in the MS press site (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/books/11069.aspx) the book is titled as WPF 4.0 - A scenario based approach and technology is mentioned as Visual Studio 2008. why?

Arun

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:16:19 GMT

Hi Arun,

The prep guide is in the process of being updated so you should see changes coming soon.

As for the book, that is likely a typo and I will submit to the internal folks who look after that. I'm not sure if it should indicate 4.0 and VS 2010 or 3.5 and VS 2008.

Thanks

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Felipe — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:00:03 GMT

Results for beta exam PRO:Design & Develop Enterprise Apps Using MS .NET Fmwrk 3.5 are updated on Prometric's site.

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Geoff — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:07:27 GMT

Hi Gerry,

Just to let people know 71-565 results are out (or at least I got mine at prometric not mcp site yet).

Geoff

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Ulugbek Umirov — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:44:39 GMT

Indeed results are there! I'm so happy that I passed all .Net 3.5 exams in beta-stage. Thanks! Now I'm eagerly waiting for .Net 4.0 beta-exams :)

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

foson — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:02:02 GMT

I got my results today on the MCP My Transcript site - https://mcp.microsoft.com/mcp/tools/trans.aspx

Thanks Felipe, Geoff, and Gerry for the updates

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Geoff — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:03:47 GMT

Just like to say thank you Gerry for geting all the 3.5 beta exam through (upgrades excluded), I am sure getting all the SQL 2008 and 3.5 Framework out in a year has been a big challenge. I think the open approach to the beta is a good one and wish I had joined up earlier (I did beta's for 505, 563, 564 and 565).

Very much appreciate the results of your efforts, happy not to think to hard about 4.0 and SQL (2011?).

Regards

Geoff

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:52:43 GMT

Hi Geoff,

You are most welcome. It can be a challenge for sure, but it's great to see the completion of the projects.

As for 4.0, I'm already in the latter part of the planning for these and in the budgetary phase. SQL? that will be the next fiscal planning. :-)

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Ralph Wheaton — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:36:04 GMT

Gerry,

Any idea as to when the 70-567 prep guide will be available? I just finished my MCPD Web and am thinking about doing the upgrade soon. I saw that Prometric has the exam available.

Thanks

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:04:59 GMT

Hi Ralph,

I created that last week so it's just a matter of time before our publishing system gets it posted.

Should see it in the next couple of days even though the page that links to it may not reflect the change. As a result, you may have to enter the URL directly of select this one, http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/Exams/70-567.aspx.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Ralph Wheaton — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:44:58 GMT

Gerry,

Thanks for the update. I expected that would be the case. Unfortunately, when I click the link, I get

We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found.

See below for search results close to your request, or try a new search.

I guess I am going to have to wait a little longer. At least I get a small break from exams.

Thanks.

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:04:10 GMT

Yea, like I mentioned, I submitted the page but it apparently hasn't been published yet.

Never said we were fast. :-)

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

mike — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:08:09 GMT

Gerry, Does 70-565 cover the requrement for 70-563 and 70-564 for the MCPD: Windows Developer 3.5 and MCPD: ASP.NET Developer 3.5 certs? Another way to ask: If I've passed 70-565 do I have to take 70-563 and 70-564? Thanks!

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:27:03 GMT

Hi Mike,

Sorry but that answer is no. Passing 70-565 does not give you credit for 70-563 or 70-564. They are completely seperate exams.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

carmel — Mon, 18 May 2009 15:36:09 GMT

there is no preparation guides for this exam.

is the material of the MCSD Self-Paced Training Kit: Analyzing Requirements and Defining Microsoft .NET Solution Architectures (Exam 70-300) sufficient cover something from this exam?

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Mon, 18 May 2009 18:07:13 GMT

Carmel,

What I posted above IS the prep guide. It is also available here, http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exams/70-565.aspx.

I think you may be referring to training materials and you are correct that we did not, nor will we, create training materials for this exam.

As for the training kit for 70-300, the answer is no. The two exams are considerably different and that training kit will not prepare you for this exam at all.

Use the prep guide, MSDN, and experience to ensure you are prepared for the exam.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

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re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Fri, 29 May 2009 16:33:46 GMT

Rajeshwar,

Microsoft does not provide the A+ certification. Please visit this web site, http://certification.comptia.org/a/default.aspx

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Fri, 29 May 2009 16:33:46 GMT

Rajeshwar,

Microsoft does not provide the A+ certification. Please visit this web site, http://certification.comptia.org/a/default.aspx

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Peter St Angelo — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:41:11 GMT

Hi Gerry,

Will there be a training kit book for 70-565?

If so -when will it be available?

Otherwise, would you suggest I use 70-549 and MSDN the additional topics?

Actually I've noticed that the content in 70-549 is similar to 70-565 -so why is 70-564 so different to 70-547? -yet gives a MCPD Web certification?

Pete

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:02:19 GMT

Hi Peter,

There will be no training kit created for that exam.

I would recommend just as you have indicated.

Each time we create an exam, we start from scratch. The subject matter experts that we bring in pretty much decide what will be covered on the exam. As a result of having difference experts in the room for each version, there is a good chance that there will be big changes.

Even though the technologies are the same, how they are used differs from organization to organization and the decisions change as technology matures.

Those are the main reasons why you will see differences in versions in terms of what is covered.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Peter St Angelo — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:41:17 GMT

Thanks for getting back to me

So (as a percentage) would you say that 70-547 covers about 30% of 70-564 exam ??

Cheers

Pete

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:55:26 GMT

Hi Peter,

I would have to go and look at the two exams to see for certain.

Your best bet is to compare the two prep guides, found on the exam section of Microsoft Learning's web site, to see where there is overlap.

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx?ID=70-564&locale=en-us#tab3

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/exam.aspx?ID=70-547&locale=en-us

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Peter St Angelo — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:28:21 GMT

Hi again Gerry

I dont see any correlation between them (70-547 & 70-564) -so the 70-547 is useless a study guide for 70-564!? (Its a bit pointless buying a book if it is not at least 50% relevent).

Last question:

So If get my MCPD EAD 3.5 -will there be an upgrade path for when I want to move to .NET 4 ?

cheers

Pete

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:23:35 GMT

Hi Peter,

This is why I always point people to the prep guide first. It tells you what's is covered on the exam.

As for the upgrade path, the MCPD Enterprise for .NET 4 is not decided yet. I will say that there "should" be an upgrade path as there has been in the past though.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Antonello — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:42:03 GMT

Hi Gerry,

Despite of many others, as you pointed out, I use to prepare exams by studying with the training kits released by Microsoft: especially in the case of exam 70-565 these are needed.

In fact, Microsoft has for most of the cases its own way to approach and solve problems, which is reflected in the certification exams: 70-565 is a perfect example of this, since it includes elements of UML, RUP and other methodologies, never calling with their names.

I've done a comparison with the exam 70-549 and I think there are some similarities (except for the introduction of the 3.5 technologies): should I take the preparation material for the exam 70-549 as a reference for this one?

Thank you very much! :)

Antonello

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Dale — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:50:20 GMT

When opening this blog article I get this error about a thousand times then a message that a flash movie script is taking a long time to run. YOu're probably aware that Microsoft has a new and better tool, right? I hate Flash! I would do everything in my power to avoid sites that use Flash. Sometimes I have to click through a thousand error messages because end tasking would close a dozen related windows in IE or because information I need is only on a page with a silly flash advertisement. Please reconsider the use of Flash on your blog.

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re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:50:40 GMT

Hi Dale,

Unfortunately, it's not my blog but rather the Dilbert cartoon strip in the left nav. I only use Microsoft technologies. :-)

I have had one other person who has had issues with the blog because of the Dilbert cartoon so perhaps it's time to remove it and enjoy Dilbert in private.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Mbongo Mpongwana — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:33:30 GMT

Hi Gerry

Again, on this point of exam 70-565 without a trining kit. Since the required exams are 70-536, 70-503, 70-505, 70-561 and 70-562, is it safe to assume that I can use training kits for all the above mentioned exams to prepare for this exam (70-565)?

Thank you,

Mbongo

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Gerry O'Brien — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:36:03 GMT

Hi Mbongo,

You can certainly use the training kits for the prerequisite exams as they will provide the requisite TS knowledge.

However, exam 70-565 is a Pro level exam which means you will need to utilize all of the TS knowledge and experience to answers the when, where, why style of questions.

Again, I recommend that you utilize the prep guide to ensure that you are up to speed on all the aspects listed. The TS training kits will only take you so far for the Pro level exam.

Gerry

re: Exam 70-565 Prep Guide

Mike — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:57:56 GMT

Microsoft continuely makes these certifications very difficult to figure out. The certs drastically change frequently. It makes sense because of the changing the technology but if they change it cant they release the training materials? What the hell. It looks now that the top cert for developers is MCPD. The problem I'm running in to is it looks like there are no self paced training guides available for any of the exams. What's the hold up? It looks like it's been in limbo for most of the year.