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Does size matter...

So we've been having some interesting hallway conversations (someone should do a study on how hallway meetings are such a great alternative to doing real work), and one of the things that came up was would it be OK if the Longhorn SDK came as one blob instead of being spliced into “Avalon” or “WinFS” or “Managed/Un-managed”? Adding up all the SDKs, the “back of the envelope” number we came up with would be 3 GBs. Before you freak out, consider hard disk space is getting really cheap (around 5-10 cents per MB), and falling. If you'd prefer not to do the download over the internet (I can hear one of my friends from the UK who pays for his bandwidth getting ready to kill me if there isn't an alternative), you could order the DVD.

Personally, I'd be OK with this if I could tune which pieces were always “up to date” so only the pieces I cared about used my bandwidth to stay current. The big benifit I see here is that my documentation/samples/tools are always available even if I'm on a flight or my spotty internet connection went down, and search would be blazingly fast since everything is local.

So what do you think? Would you like this, do you even care if you couldn't tune if the entire SDK always stayed up to date using your internet connection?

Mitch posted a related question on his blog and the replies indicated this direction was worth exploring.

Published Tuesday, February 10, 2004 1:45 PM by harisekhar

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# re: Does size matter...

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 2:46 PM by milbertus
I prefer to have all of my content local to my machine, regardless of size. I always perform a full install of MSDN, so just in case I need something later I'll have it, even if I didn't think that I'd need in the first place.

That said, I'll probably download and install the whole thing, assuming that I have enough free disk space (I should probably upgrade my hard drives, at some point). It might be nice to be able to download that 3GB in chunks, so that if something bad happens in the middle of the download, I won't have to start over from the beginning.

# re: Does size matter...

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 2:47 PM by Sean Terry
That would certainly be wonderful. Being a mobile developer, I keep as many things locally as possible (like you said, storage is cheap). As long as the update feature could be scheduled or run manually, that would be great.

I think it would be even better if the updates were done like Windows Updates, where the individual updates can be downloaded and applied incrementally.

# re: Does size matter...

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:13 PM by matthew
$0.05-$0.10 per MB?

Don't you mean GB?

# re: Does size matter...

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:07 PM by Shane King
Ship the OS on DVD as an option, include the SDK on the DVD. Solves all the problems. ;)

# re: Does size matter...

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:52 PM by Kent Tegels
I like the live update feature, keep that. More filters would be appreciated -- especially those along technology silos.

# re: Does size matter...

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 5:08 PM by Justin Rogers
I know that pervious versions of MSDN and the SDK perform much better when only the subset of content you want is on your disk. Unless you guys can come up with the optimum packing/indexing formats to make 3GB of data spring to life at my finger tips, then always allow the ability to have it broken into pieces.

Depending on speed, I'm liable to have 5 instances of the SDK viewer on my machine, each with different portions of the documentation installed if it is going to give me the least bit of performance increase in getting to my information.

# On the new Longhorn SDK, a designer asks,

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:38 PM by Justin Rogers, DigiTec Web Consultants, LLC.

# On the new Longhorn SDK, a designer asks,

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:39 PM by Justin Rogers, DigiTec Web Consultants, LLC.

# re: Does size matter...

Friday, February 13, 2004 10:33 AM by ILikeSDK
What does the Longhorn SDK consist of? I think I'd prefer the unmanaged content separate from managed content. (I do almost all managed at this time, so the headers and libs are just wasted space to me.) And where will the line be drawn for separate SDKs? Will directx be part of the Longhorn SDK? What about Windows Media?

# re: Does size matter...

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:10 AM by haris@microsoft.com
Think of the Longhorn SDK as the platform SDK for Longhorn. The Longhorn SDK will include both managed and unmanaged content, so it will be a superset of the platform SDK. Maybe we could draw the line at choosing between managed and unmanaged content in the Longhorn SDK?

# re: Does size matter...

Monday, January 29, 2007 4:35 AM by Mark Ingram

I want one SDK, and I want to be able to just "update" the SDK from my computer, without having to download another large setup file which just copies everything over the top (or places it in a different directory altogether).

I want the simplest method of getting up and developing when I install / update a new development machine.

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