Future Vision: Microsoft knowledge driven health

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Guest — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:28:12 GMT

Somebody has to pay for all this. The real question is who?

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hlthblog — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:57:54 GMT

As always, thanks for your comments Guest. I think you know the answer to your question. We all pay more than we should right now because of medical errors, duplicate tests, unnecessary procedures, inefficient and burdensome administrative processes, wasted time...... need I go on? What if we could direct all that wasted money to actually caring for patients? What if doctors had the full range of contemporary communication and collaboration technologies at their disposal? What if we could deliver exactly the most appropriate level of care whenever and wherever it was needed. What if doctors could be reimbursed for providing cognitive services so that an e-mail replaced an office visit, or a "virtual house call" prevented a trip to the ER? What if, indeed!

Bill Crounse, MD

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Mike — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:30:08 GMT

Interesting post. But why not post the video? Is there somewhere that we can see it, without an invite to the Executive Briefing Center?

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hlthblog — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:48:59 GMT

Thanks Mike. I wish I could stream the video so everyone could enjoy it; but for now we can only use it when presenting "live" at the briefing center or at major industry conferences. Perhaps sometime in the future we can post it so anyone can see it. Until then, it serves as a little extra incentive to come to one of my keynotes.

Best always,

Bill

Bill Crounse, MD

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Gray Elkington — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:29:03 GMT

My hunch is that if you put your video on youtube or somesuch you would get far more people turning up for your keynotes than you could handle, people eager to hear you elaborate on the video's message. What better way is there to raise awareness for what you're doing?

Living in England, there is little likelihood of me hearing you in person. But you can bet that if I got hold of your video it would soon be circulated around some movers and shakers in the UK's medical industry. Surely this is what you must want?

I include an email address in the hope that you agree! gray.elkington(at)hammersmithremovemedicine(dot)com (take out the word 'remove').

Me? My role is to find the technology doctors need to innovate.

Best regards,

Gray Elkington

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Guest — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:24:37 GMT

>We all pay more than we should right now because of >medical errors, duplicate tests, unnecessary procedures, >inefficient and burdensome administrative processes, >wasted time...... need I go on?

This is because of bad top management of healthcare organizations who are more interested in maximizing the profits instead of delivering good care. As everything, this is not a technology problem but political one.

>What if doctors could be reimbursed for providing >cognitive services so that an e-mail replaced an office visit, >or a "virtual house call" prevented a trip to the ER? What >if, indeed!

Do you honestly belive that this will reduce the cost??? I doubt so. This will improve throughput of patients so that practice can charge same for shorter time, effectively growing profits. On related note, cost of 'cognitive services' is impossible to measure and patients will still be charged high fees which have no basis. Hospital will prefer take someone to ER just because they can get paid by insurance. No insurance company will ever reimburse for 'virtual house call' because this things will make them bancrupt. Similarly, if you are a patient who is about to die (otherwise why would you need to be in ER) why do you want a 'virtual house call'?

To fix the problem you need to find its root cause. The true state of affairs is that patient wants to be healthy and get best care possible, doctors want to be paid for their services and insurances/payers want maximize profits. This are the driving forces of healthcare. That is why cost is so high.

The REAL SOLUTION to the problem is to have healthcare for everyone to be paid by from tax money, in other words socialized medicine like that in Canada, UK or European Union countries. This is the first step in the right direction.

Technology works irrespective of country and political system.

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Art_Vandelay — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:32:07 GMT

Yes, the REAL SOLUTION is socialized medicine. Everyone knows that it is more important to obtain chiropractic services, as opposed to a heart catheterization (check into Canada's socialized medicine). Read-up and learn about how many Canada-US border towns have to ship-out cases to the US because they have major access issues.

Sure - it is easy for those of us with healthcare insurance to balk at the rationing of care and significant wait times for many critical services that would evolve with socialized medicine but in a few years there would just be yet-another two-tier healthcare system (as exists in the European countries now) and more people would be complaining. We are now taking appropriate care of more individuals that we would in a socialized medicine environment. Please remember that we have socialized medicine now, it is called Medicare, Medicaid and charity care. Place your focus on Grassley who will reduce charity care with his actions (that is, more regulation, more reporting, more government red tape, burning more dollars and resources that could be directed to better alternatives).

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Bill Crounse, MD — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:18:10 GMT

Gray, Guest and Art;

Thanks for taking time to comment. I really didn't intend to ignite a debate on healthcare reform, nor will I take a hard line on whether public or private healthcare systems are best. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. What seems to get lost in the debate is that healthcare is always rationed no matter what system is in place because no society can afford to do everything for everyone. That's just economics 101. My interest is in how technology can be leveraged to reduce waste, increase quality, and improve access to a wider range of information, services, and appropriate levels of care no matter what system (public or private) is in place.

Bill Crounse, MD

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A.Cavale — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 04:09:07 GMT

Being an Endocrinologist with an "Electronic Office" I find the arguments compelling.

After 5 years of using EMR technology and providing the options of managing diabetes via e-visit concept for almost 3 years, I continue to find that IT companies are woefully deficient in undestabding the requirements of providing health care and insurers are (intentionally or otherwise) uninterested in providing appropriate financial incentives for physicians willing an able to utilise IT to improve quality of care.

Taking Bill's specific video as an example, I find several practical flaws that would make this scenario nearly impossible to achieve under current conditions. Firstly, very few insurances recognise th condition of "pre-diabetes" - it took several years to just get a diagnosis code for this (extremely important) condition. Second, the procedure code for such an (virtual) interaction with a patient is not recognised for payment by almost all insurers. Third, the tablet pc that the physician is using for this visit is currently entirely funded by the physician with no hope of ever being able to recover the cost from the consumers of health care - there is no mechanism for this. As a similar example, if my accountant uses e-filing for my taxes, the extra cost is directly charged to me (for this convenience). But if I ever ask my patients to pay for such a service it is considered fraud under existing insuerere contracts. Fourth, if the physician is making rounds at more than one hospital, there is no way he/she can use the same program to access two hospital systems.

While Bill's concept is good, society has to decide if its ready to accept that quality health care has to be reimburse appropriately, just like every other service. IT companies have to develop special pricing options for medical practices and detailed regulations are needed to prevent IT companies from taking medical practices for a ride.

I havemyself struggled for over a year to convince our major insurance carriers to recognise that chronic diseases like diabetes require a "continuous care" model for which e-visits or virtual visits are ideal and offer most efficient, timely and effective care. But they seem to be far from even considering such services as "reimbursable" even though there are billabe codes with reimbursement values attached to such codes. I wonder how Microsoft plans to address these critical issues in order to make such a futuristic plan workable in today's world.

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hlthblog — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:49:01 GMT

Doctor Cavale,

Thanks Doctor Cavale,

Thanks so much for your insightful comments. Believe me! No one knows better than me that physicians are held hostage by a payment system that stifles innovation and rewards the status quo. However, market forces are at work that will change the game. As consumers are being asked to pick up an increasingly larger share of their healthcare spend, they are being forced to make more informed choices about when they get their care and who delivers it. They will also make choices increasingly driven by technology. Early examples of this can be seen in the growth of web traffic and services related to health, the rise of medical tourism, the expansion of the retail health movement, and innovative service providers such as TelaDoc. My colleague, John Goodman, offers an excellent quick read on some of these market trends in an editorial appearing today on his Blog at http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/entrepreneurship/.

The coming changes will likely be more evolutionary than revolutionary, but the evidence of change is all around us. Furthermore, I believe that it will be forward-thinking, entrepreneurial physicians like many of the docs who comment on this Blog who will lead the way.

Bill Crounse, MD Worldwide Health Director Microsoft

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A Cavale — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:57:45 GMT

Thanks for the comments, Bill. John Goodman's blog while very spirited, is not very accurate. I have to wholeheartedly disagree that Minute Clinics with NPs can be classified as an innovation, nor can I agree that blindly following computerised protocols is evidence-based practice. Its the "dumming of medicine". If this is innovation, I will try my best to stay away from it. I would like to see how a single multi-million dollar law suit at one of these clinics will affect their growth. I also wonder how the Liability Insurance premiums for these independently practicing NPs are as compared to independently practicing physicians. I only hope they are comparable...

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Mary Lautner — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:01:38 GMT

I am interested in ways to help the patient understand how to manage her or his care. When you have multiple medical problems, with multiple protocols, how do you understand the medical context around attending to them? Take management of chronic pain for example. You can: visit a chiropractor, have Reiki healing, take pain medicines, rest, walk, meditate, sit in a hot tub, take cold baths, whatever. This requires the patient to track effects and continue to learn what works and what doesn't. And when someone is in pain, that can be daunting. Maybe even have an advocate who helps articulate what is or is not working. This medical system is so fragmented, I suggest you think of ways to help the patient integrate information. We now get so many instructions verbally or tersely written down, and we don't always know the context in which they were made.

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hlthblog — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:52:12 GMT

Mary,

Thanks for your comment. I agree that the "patient experience" is less than optimal in healthcare. There are so many conflicting sources of information, and even the most trusted sources of information have been known to flip-flop as scientific evidence evolves (i.e. hormone replacement therapy or the debate on trans-fats). The good news is that companies like Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and others are working hard to develop new tools to help consumers find and use health information on the web, and new ways for consumers to connect with healthcare providers and medical services. Then too, as the healthcare industry moves toward electronic record keeping, our ability to analyze clinical data will improve. This should speed the development of better, highly efficacious and more personalized treatment options.

Bill Crounse, MD

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Peggy Karrh — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:19:39 GMT

Microsoft has always been on the cutting edge and I am interested in following the advances you make. I am a emergency department nurse administrator and would love to assist in this project. Are you looking for any healthcare professionals to assist in this endeavor?

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hlthblog — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:03:17 GMT

Peggy,

Thanks for writing. Our healthcare groups at Microsoft are growing fast with more than 600 people now directed at developing or selling healthcare solutions around the world. We have many clinicians and other people with deep industry experience on our staff. I generally advise people who are looking for career opportunities at Microsoft to visit www.microsoft.com/careers and perform a keyword search using the term "healthcare" to survey open positions and opportunities.

Bill Crounse, MD Worldwide Health Director Microsoft

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Peter Guebeli — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:56:33 GMT

Hi Mr. Crounse

I heard you yesterday on the eHealthCare congress in Nottwil / Switzerland. On the congress documentation I can't found your presentation. Where is the place to download it? Is it also possible to download your video?

Thanks

Peter Guebeli

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hlthblog — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:36:16 GMT

Peter,

Thanks for writing. Please send a note to Philipp Negele, our industry manager for Switzerland at pnegele@microsoft.com . He has a copy of the presentation and should be able to get it to you.

Bill Crounse, MD

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About a week ago, Microsoft healthcare division put a lot of money into their future vision. The results

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Nick Carchidi — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:47:18 GMT

Is there any way to download the video? Could I have a copy sent to my inbox (preferably in the highest quality available?) I'm a future student at MIT, studying to be a theoretical physicist, and I just love how simple and elegant this marketing video is! The advancements in technology are steadily growing each day, and before long, I have no doubt that what we see in the video, will become a part in our daily lives. The downside to all of this is the fact that other countries are far more advance (already) than the US ie; China, Japan, etc... Makes you wonder if we really do need more people in the science community..

Thank you in advance,

(Nicholas Carchidi)

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hlthblog — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:06:04 GMT

Nick,

Thanks for writing. I’m sorry, but I cannot send you a copy of the video. We generally do not release these videos for public viewing beyond what is available on sites like my Blog or YouTube, etc. This video in particular is meant to be shown at industry conferences with a Microsoft health representative present. The set up for the video is important as it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense unless you understand the scenarios and technologies being represented.

I agree with you that America is far behind most other industrialized countries when it comes to the adoption of IT in healthcare. I see much greater use of electronic records, telemedicine, and eHealth solutions outside of the US.

I wish you the very best in your career at MIT. It’s a great school. You will have a very promising future.

Bill Crounse, MD

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Dr. Overby — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:04:54 GMT

Really nice video. It is very exciting to see the impact that technology can have on healthcare.

This reminds me of a demo I saw recently from a company called Care Converge (http://www.careconverge.com). They are using the Microsoft platform to build portals for patient and consumers. I was very impressed with what they had to offer.

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hlthblog — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:31:14 GMT

Vandi,

Thanks for the comment and link. I think you are missing the point. Our Future Vision Video was developed with a great deal of research behind it. We looked at global business and health industry trends, currently available technology and technologies now in the labs at Microsoft research as well as elsewhere around the world. We interviewed hundreds of industry experts including many clinicians. Using an analogy from another industry; a concept car is developed to reflect future automotive trends but it doesn't have working gages on the dashboard or perhaps even a working engine. User interface design was beyond the scope of our Future Vision Video project. If you want to see what we are doing in that area, check out www.mscui.net.

Bill Crounse, MD

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Sunil Patel — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:01:57 GMT

How would one get a job with your group to make this reality?

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hlthblog — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:44:56 GMT

Sunil,

Thanks for your comment. Microsoft is serious about the health industry. We actualy have 4 groups and about 1000 people around the world working on health solutions. Go to www.microsoft.com and check out the careers section. Do a keyword search using "health" or "healthcare" to see open positions.

Bill Crounse, MD

Senior Director

Worldwide Heatlh

Microsoft

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Sunil Patel — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:50:30 GMT

Thank you. I have been in teh medical imaging field for 10 years now and am interested in your vision of healthcare.

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Programowanie z wyobraznia — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:52:05 GMT

Muszę przyznać się, że bardzo lubie oglądać różne koncepcje, które mogą zaistnieć w przyszłości. Microsoft

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NC — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:26:54 GMT

Bill,

I posted a comment (above) on June 29th of last year.

I didn't realize that my name was showing in Google results.

Is there any way you can delete my comment on the 29th, and this one?

I take internet privacy very seriously..

Thanks in advance,

(Nick)

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Bill — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:47:13 GMT

Just added my own blog this month. I need some inspiration. Thx.

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Dr. Padmavathi Bhamidipati — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:38:26 GMT

I appreciate Bills concept and the future vision in the Healthcare.

It is really a wonderful development and vision, when it is fully introduced and operable worldwide.

The benefits I could see if implemented with the support from the insurance agencies and the government:

• No long waiting time to meet the doctors even for the trivial ailments

• Travel time and cost could be avoided.

• Patient monitoring would become easier.

• Patients whose conditions are stable could be discharged from the hospital inpatient departments to accommodate others in the waiting.

Disadvantages:

• To use this doctors and patients need to be technology savvy.

• May not be available as it looks very expensive.

What we are seeing here would be more expensive and cannot be reachable for all. It is only compatible with the IT savvy people and doctors, also to the people who are having access to the latest technology and know how to operate. How many people are tech savvy? What happens to the rest of the world waiting to get medical aid for even minutest medical/surgical problems?

Inventions in the medicine and healthcare IT is a welcome sign throughout the world and appreciated by one and all.

Any invention if is not helpful to the common man eventually turns to be a failure.

We are talking about health for all by 2020. Probably making consultations Virtual might be beneficial to the people who are remotely located. That would decrease the travel time and cost.

As rightly commented by some guest it is not a technology problem but a bureaucratic problem. The senior management in almost all the successful healthcare Industries the concentration is not really in delivering the healthcare but solely on the revenue. So the healthcare had become a pure market place for the past 2 decades.

For acute problems and common ailments (not medical/surgical emergencies) a virtual consultation saves much time to the doctors as well as patients owing to the globalization and also traffic/distance.

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gresham chiropractic — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:13:48 GMT

We generally do not release these videos for public viewing beyond what is available on sites like my Blog or YouTube, etc. I have no doubt that what we see in the video, will become a part in our daily lives.