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STOP PUTTING genuine advantage into INSTALLERS!!!

STOP STEALING Microsoft Windows and you WON'T have a problem.

Why isn't the feedback/bugreport tool built it?

Installing IE 7 overwrites IE 6. How exactly are we supposed to compare and contrast the updates you've made?

Running a legally purchased copy of Windows at work, genuine advantage can't verify it and won't let me install it.

STOP PUTTING genuine advantage into installers!

Crashed my system within 1 minute of installing, and found several bugs already.

E.g. have firefox as your default browser, and in IE7 open up a webpage on your local drive. This will result in IE7 loading the page in firefox and not in itself. Very strange behaviour.

Many others have already noted that they are getting bluescreens upon startup as well.

Peter, please use the feedback mechanisms recommended in Jason's blog post to submit feedback.

Please note that IE7 is not capable of generating blue screens, as we don't ship any kernel-mode components. Blue screens are caused by things like device drivers (which, as I said, we don't ship), so you should follow XP's crash reporting mechanism to determine which driver is at fault.

-Christopher

Sounds like your company was smart enough to lock down systems so genuine advantage and other programs of that nature won't work without IT approval.

Good for them and shame on you for even trying to install beta software on a work PC. Call your IT department and check your key. The reason it can't verify is because your key is being used elsewhere or a firewall is blocking the check.

Don't install this over IE6. Use Virtual PC and install it in a new instance of XP SP2, then you can run them side by side without the risk of running beta software on your machine.

Mike: IT gave me the beta package. I have an admin account on my Windows machine. My key also worked last time I installed something requiring this backward functionality.

Require Flash for downloading the beta. Genuine Advantage only installs. No changelog, so we have to figure out what actually was fixed. A delightful scavenger hunt!

Glad you guys are thinking of your customers.

Shawn, I know the folks over on the Genuine Advantage are keen to make sure that legitimate Windows users are not inconvenienced by the GA checks. I would encourage you to go to http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/ww/windows/default.mspx with your machine and follow the steps they provide. If you have a machine that should pass the GA check and does not, they'll want to know about it.

Unfortunately, there's nothing I nor anyone else on the IE team can do for you about this directly.

-Christopher

I don't see an x64 version, and the download version won't install on x64. Yet, down at the bottom it say that it will run on x64.

Is there a secondary download that I'm missing?

Right now we only have the 32 bit version for XP SP2. We'll have x64 and Server 2003 builds at a later date.

"Customer" - If you do not have flash installed you are greeted with a static image that will point you to the installation page. Flash is not required.

As for the comment about a changelog, this blog *is* the changelog. We've posted a lot of information over the past year about what's new and different, including explicit information about changes that might affect app compat and how to test/change your site or app.

-Christopher

@Christopher

"this blog *is* the changelog"

Not a very professional statement for a software company.

reads as: "We changed a bunch of things, talked about them for many months over several posts and comments, so that should be enough for you to figure out what changed."

What you should do, is post a list (even a bare bones list).

E.g.

1.) CSS (& related) Additions/Changes:
1.a) PNG Alpha Transparency for 8/24 bit...
1.b) Box model conformance to W3C spec fixed
1.c) Select List z-order fixed
1.d) ...
2.) JavaScript Additions/Changes:
2.a) Native XMLHttpRequest Object added
2.b) ...
3.) ActiveX security
3.a) Broker added to manage...
4.) GUI
4.a) Tabs, tabs, at long last wonderful tabs!

Or, better yet, do a seach, by date, of all the bugs marked fixed/added/implemented in your public bugzilla/similar bug tracking tool, and copy&paste the list as of (build date), to the site.

Bryan

This of course, would be the true, up to date list, at any given time.

This 5296 build has problems withe McAfee Virusscan. The Security Center (which is web-based) opens but it's blank. With IE6 installed there is no problem.

Bryan - The release notes (http://msdn.microsoft.com/ie/releasenotes/default.aspx) contain a good list of what has changed. Not everything, but most things. Hopefully a more detailed list will be on MSDN at some point.

Bryan,

Did you look at the Release Notes at http://msdn.microsoft.com/ie/releasenotes/?

- Al Billings [MSFT]

I'm having some install problems with a DLL (msfeeds.dll) and I can't find anything about it.

This is also documented in your newsgroup by two other people:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general&tid=8fe9115e-d0a9-4f0b-b4f3-506bc38bab36&cat=en_us_28cca3eb-7037-4d4f-bde1-d8efee1f1420&lang=en&cr=us&p=1

Not sure how to fix?

I like the RSS features. I think a agregate page for RSS feeds would be a big plus. I would be nice to be only one click away from recent feed headlines.

The zoom and alias improvements to text are great. I cannot wait to get this on my 1920 x 1200 notebook running 130 dpi at home. I'm guessing that images should look a lot nicer. Atleast I hope so.

"I'm having some install problems with a DLL (msfeeds.dll) and I can't find anything about it. "

add me to that list... but the feed back is hopefull

I too have install problems on 2 different machines - same msfeeds.dll error

Why go with 5296 when clearly 5299 was "around"...?

I wanted to post right away after using the browser to get my initial user-experience reactions across while fresh.

1) The tabs - I really think a + sign would benefit the add new tab. It is about 60% intuative in my opinion and I am very comfortable in both a tabbed envirnment and a browser.

2) I dont know how much emphasis should be put on the button placement but the buttons on the right seem to be throwing me off a little. HOME for example - I am used to having them to the left of my screen. If I can move them later it's not a big deal. The RSS doesn't jump out in it's current location and it's a button I would expect will get a lot of attention.

3) The favorites buttons to the left are somewhat confusing. At first glance they seem redundant and they're just not overly intuative. I would have 1 button for favorites centre (The Start) and the + could go on the add new tab :)

4) The quick tabs - I love this idea great job.

5) Internet Explorer Dev Toolbar - It's a great add-on, giving my SharePoint Development background I use it *alot* and would love to see it standard in the browser.

6) Favorites needs some work. No export functionality. It would be great to see the ability to add meta-data to bookmarks during the add process and later filter them using this meta-data.

I'll stop now before I sound depressing. I am impressed with the work done thus far.

Sorry for double post in, but my RSS favorites feed shows "Go Seahawks!" as the newest topic.

Anyone knows, where I could find some info about new reg values? I want to add them to my reg file, but I cannot find out, what they actually do. Values: 180A, 180C, 2103, 2104, 2301. Following site was really usefull, but I do not think, that it will be updated sooner than in summer. :'(
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=182569

One more question, if I can ask. To add to the previous question. I have just noticed, that the released preview is the v7.0.5296.0 and the version, that has leaked to internet before was v7.0.5299.0. Does it mean, that 5299 is unstable and I should not have to use it? Thanks forward.

A feature request.

In Firefox there is an extension called Greasemonkey. There is a scipt which automatically converts http links that are in text form (not clicable link e.g. www.microsoft.com) and automatically converts it to a clickable link.

Is it possible for future versions to add this feature?

Keep up the good work

RSS Features:

Can someone help me understand the RSS Features?

As I see them implemented, they don't seem to do much at all.

Firefox Live bookmarks shows you the latest headlines, without having to open a new page

Am I missing something? I hope!?

IE7 looks pretty good to me so far.

Product Enhancement Requests:
- Ability to rearrange the toolbars. ie. I'd like to move the Tab toolbar to the bottom, and put the Classic Toolbar above the Address bar

- Ability to rearrange the tabs in the Tab toolbar

- Mouse gestures

The biggest thing that would convince me to give up Firefox/Opera for IE7 is stability of the program & no memory leaks. I'm going to leave IE7 open with 10+ tabs for a few days and see what happens to memory usage.

Hey guys, one major area that Internet Explorer has alwas lacked hugely in is downloading! Even FireFox doesn't do this well. If your download engine would only support RESUMING DOWNLOADS you would save tons of people time and grief!! At the moment I use a third party tool for this, it would be great if you one-up the FF team!

You all probably like the Tabs being on the bottom too....logically it makes more sense to put them on top, and the related address bar on the bottom...I really think that was a brash decision just to avoid how FF did it... Just reverse the top tool bars and you've got a winner ;) Or at least put in an option for it! (pretty please?)
Good job though on everything else. Take care.

Hey guys, one major area that Internet Explorer has alwas lacked hugely in is downloading! Even FireFox doesn't do this well. If your download engine would only support RESUMING DOWNLOADS you would save tons of people time and grief!! At the moment I use a third party tool for this, it would be great if you one-up the FF team!

You all probably like the Tabs being on the bottom too....logically it makes more sense to put them on top, and the related address bar on the bottom...I really think that was a brash decision just to avoid how FF did it... Just reverse the top tool bars and you've got a winner ;) Or at least put in an option for it! (pretty please?)
Good job though on everything else. Take care.

Hi

Firstly, great job.

- I love the rss features.
- The new shiney buttons look cool.

I'm having a little trouble adjusting after years of using IE6 with the favourites bar permanently open! :)

The address bar seems a little too high. Unless I've missed something, can it come below the normal menus?

The search box is too far to the right.

Also, the home / feed buttons look a little isolated on the right.

I'd find it much easier is there were the normal pulldown menus,
under that address bar + forward / back / refresh (needs to be bigger?) / home
Under that search
under that tabs. (all of those left aligned)

Just my 2 cents!

Hi,
I'm having problems with my two PC's with the RSS feature. When I click any RSS link inside the RSS window, an error appears, IE freeze, and have to close it. Any suggestions to solve this? BTW, the rest of IE is very good.

Hey guys, can't anyone help me? I can't uninstall IE 7 Beta 1. It's not there in Programs list with Show Updates on.

Please tell me what to do to install Beta 2.

Appreciate any help!

BTW I have a genuine Windows XP Home Edition SP2

A great change, really. Now the adress bar is on the top of the window. Wow.

What a shame you IE developpers forgot the main thing : a web-browser is NOT a rss reader, it is not a plugins/extension basis : it is just a bowser, and thus has to do WELL his job of browser. Overflow is broken, boxmodel often is, float/clear is broken... When will it finally possible to use common html possibilities in IE ? (Well, okay, you made improvements on PNG and some other things like fixed position, but the Thing you packed today is far far away from my needs...)

Keep going on developements, i would like so much IE to be a standard compliant and rich browser...

Hey Moka, in the Add or Remove programs windows, check the option "Show Updates" and IE 7 Beta 1 appear now in the list. Bye

Bye :(

Xavier,

Are you still seeing sites with box model, overflow, etc. issues in the IE7 build we released today? There is no question that IE6 and our first beta of IE7 had problems, but we expect this build to be much better in that regard. Specific sites that aren't rendering right would be helpful.

Thanks.
-- Tony

IE7 (beta 1 & 2) + Digest Authentication = borked.
IE6 + Digest Authentication = great.

Each time you hit a page with just digest authentication (and qop="auth") you get a password and account box with blank values.

Enter in the correct password and account, and you get your page. The problem is that IE7 will not remember your credential... hassling you on every page hit. Try that with a web app.

So is there a keyboard shortcut that puts the focus into the new search box the way Alt+D puts focus into the Address Box?

MGA must go.

W2k support would be welcome.

Cant stand not being able to move the "classic" toolbar over the address bar.

Whats with the arrangement of the stop/refresh buttons?

Hey Al,

Thanks for replying. I'm trying to uninstall IE 7 Beta 1. It isn't there on Show Updates so I can remove it. So can you tell me how to unistall it? or What command can I run?

Appreciate your help,

OK just some feedback, my initial reactions.

It's different. Much better than Beta 1. I gave up beta testing beta 1. It just wasn't usable at all, the File menu bar there below the url bar just bugged me to no end to where I could not stand IE. I instantly went and turned it on in beta 2 and yep it still bugged me to no end so I turned it off. Now this took some getting used to but once I got used to using it without the Main Menu it kind of grew on me. I would still prefer to have the main menu though at the top as it is kind of my safety net, my comfort level, I have been using a main menu since, well since windows came to life. Please move the main menu back to the top. I am from the old DOS days I still get around better by typing. Which is why I can get used it though, things like ctrl + O still give the open dialog and pretty much most of the keyboard shortcuts all work. But please let that main menu bar go back up to the top. I like having File, Edit, View etc at the very top.

Ok install. Genuine Advantage thing is getting genuinely annoying. When it came out I was like great that will help with making people have real versions of windows not some hacked up thing but now it is just plain getting annoying it is beginning to seem like everything I install from Microsoft anymore and now it is like you are punishing the people that actually buy it. People hate annoyances and we hate submitting information to Microsoft or getting things pushed on us. I actually went back to Excel to track my checkbook because MS Money kept forcing me out to MSN, but that is another story entirely. Anyway if there is someway to have the genuine advantage store on my local machine and then just access that it would be better that going out and checking all the time. I mean I understand what you are trying to do but it just needs to be improved upon and make it less obtrusive.

The favorites star and the + sign to add to favorites, that would be nice if it was just a button where we could move it around where we wanted. Actually make the tab bar, and the favorites thing different toolbars so we can put them where we want I would much prefer to have the tabs scrunched over to the far left side. Also then put the Quick Tabs button off on the right of the tabs. I guess I just want more customization of IE. I want to personalize it more for me. You know while we are at it why not just make the thing skinable. One of the most common spyware tool in the past has been something that lets you skin IE or somewhat skin it. People use it every day, people want to personalize it. I use Windows Media Player 10 and I absolutely love it because I can change the look and feel of it at a whim. For Years we have been wanting to do this with IE as well.

Full Screen mode, this well STILL ROCKS!!!! There is nothing I can tell you about how to improve it, it just rocks.

Now the other thing I noticed, the dang balloons trying to help me. First off the Validate this site. There is no way to just shut the balloon off. It is like this annoying built in pop up. Pop ups must all die including help pop ups. Please give me a way not only to turn off popups but turn off all balloon messages, these are more annoying than anything else. Oh yeah and the validate this site doesn't work through Microsoft Proxy servers. The Browser does but the validation doesn’t.

Now, the validate thing allows you to click here for settings, this just takes you to the Advanced Options tab under options. I know other people have said this before. This needs to really be revamped. I have been using IE since IE 4 while I know the options very well they are still daunting to the average user. Especially when some options are checked to turn things on, some option are checked to turn things off, be consistent and less confusing. The options aren’t really grouped well together anymore. How about looking at making this a little more user friendly. I know I can live with it but can others. I went in there to turn off the validation thing. That seems to be the only way to get rid of the annoying validate balloon it turn off the validation. Since I did it I wonder how many others will just turn off the validation thing hence destroying their own security because balloons and popups are so annoying. Sorry but that’s just honest feedback and a chink I see in IE's armor. If the only way to turn off something annoying is to shut off a security feature well you already know people will do that and then they will blame Microsoft for poor security. If you really must have the balloon tips to show off a new feature that’s fine, but put a button in each one like the old IE form input and stuff. "Never Show This Message Again."

Also for some reason, Japanese characters are not showing up, they showed up in IE 6 on this VPC, so I know I have the language pack installed IE 7 just gives me squares. One more thing without the classic menu under the Tools button you really need to put a link to Windows Update. It is still there in the Tools Classic menu and even though I do have automatic updates on when using a VPC I know I haven’t used in a while I know I like to just go hit windows update after booting up. An unpatched VPC is as bad as a unpatched regular computer.

Ok all this in the first 10 minutes of using it. However it is usable now like I said and very much improved. The UI will take some getting used to much like the new Office does. But I think in the long run it will be better. I do enjoy using it over firefox but now since I am comfortable driving this baby for things other than just testing I will use it, lets see if we can crash this baby. Then I will start submitting bug reports to the feedback site.

So far I'm impressed by what I see, I've noticed a few things that are a little odd, however.

I'm not sure I like the favourites button.. it's not very intuitive, as I had to hunt for several minutes before finding where it was located. If it could be moved over near the home button, that would help a little.. even a tool tip would be useful. Many people are used to the favourites link being right in the menu bar.

Is there any way to edit the toolbars? I know in previous versions you could click customize and shift the toolbar buttons back and forth, but I don't see any way to do that in the new version.

The new tab button is kind of odd - in my version, it's just a grey button until you over over it. Then you see the new page icon. Also, the add to favourites button is rather similar to adding a new tab - I would associate the "plus" sign as opening a new tab before I associated it with subscribing to a feed (especially since it's no where near the RSS stuff).

That's my observations, so far! Good work though.. it will be nice to not have to pull out my hair to try and get my websites to view the same as Firefox! :D

Why don't you use Ladybug for public feedback tracking?
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback

Microsoft's Developer Division uses this and it is fantastic.

Got a lot of ideas so far, but want to keep using the program before a big post -- wanted to get this out there right away, though.

Please consider using CTRL-F4 for shutting the foreground Tab. It's a convention used in so many applications that use tabs, e.g., UltraEdit.

Al,

First, I ran the command but it tells me that the folder isn't avaliable. I enabled "view hidden folders" already and went to the Windows folder, but there is no unistall folders but one for Windows Installer (KB893803v2). The folder for IE 7 doesn't exist.

What else can I do? Thanks,

Everything looks nice. Good job. But. Need gestures. Cannot live without them. Please!!!

Christopher Vaughan [MSFT]
"If you do not have flash installed you are greeted with a static image that will point you to the installation page. Flash is not required."

Just because flash is installed, does not mean it runs every swf file automatically. Some of us think it's faster and more secure to have flash blocked by default. Why not just use "Standard" hypertext instead of proprietary plugins. Are you afraid of spiders or something? Do you have standards phobia?



"this blog *is* the changelog."

Flying spaghetti Monster's noodly appendage and Snakes on a Plane.

You want me to comb through a year of blogs entries and comments clarifying misstatements, to compile a changelog? May I point you to an example of a respectable changelog? One that identifies each bug fixed and relevant knowledge base articles if any in simple text. One actually compiled by Microsoft employees.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q225037/

As for the MSDN link posted by others, why is it copyrighted last year, preliminary and subject to change?

Some secure sites are not accessable anymore. Online banking site for instance. (Wells Fargo)

Also, my favorites pane no longer works. The links are there, but when I click them, nothing happens.

THoughts?

Eric

Ignores the fact that I have "No Sounds" selected as my sound scheme.

If I play with the zoom feature, then go back to 100%, subsequently changing tabs results in a terrible flicker where it appears to repeatedly render the title bar at different heights.

Al,

No, what I have installed on my computer is Beta 1, and it's working fine. But I want to remove it now in order to install Beta 2 (at least that's what the install package tells me to do).

The problem is that Beta 1 is neither showing under Show Updates nor as a directory under C:/windows, and I can't uninstall it. So do you have a solution for this?

Running in with "add-ons" disabled, then going to "Manage add-ons" reveals the "ssv helper object" from Sun Microsystems is loaded and enabled.

Running with "add-ons disabled", then going to "Mange add-ons" reveals a whole multitude of "add-ons" that are allowed to run "without permission"

When running with "add-ons disabled", ActiveX objects such as "Confidence online for web applications" from WholeSecurity incorporated (a common cytrix security item) is loaded and enabled.

MS Devs,

Can there still be changes made to the interface and the way the "Links" toolbar and favorites interact? What I'm wondering is if instead of opening up your favorites, then clicking on a group of tabs to open, have a folder of favorites located on the "Links" toolbar and when you middle click or right click > open group in tabs happen or occur. Is this something that can be implemented at this point and time or has all the main features and what not been finalized? Thank you.

Thanks for the suggestion, Ryan. It's something we'll consider for IE7.

Hello,
Great work guys IE7 is very stable and an overall solid browser. A few problems though, I am using a USB modem and IE7 keeps detecting my connection status as "Working Offline" so constantly tries to connect to a connection that is allready active! I can resolve this in options though by selecting IE not to dial any connections. RSS functionality and management is absolutely superb and so is tabbed browseing. However I noticed that IE7 appears to be slightly slower than Firefox or even IE6. Looking forward to final release, Thanks!

Why are you redoing the menu bar? It's much worse now and different then IE 6 and Firefox "just to be different". It holds no advantage over the "normal" way of doing things.

Where the heck are my bookmark links?

Hello.
I have two questions. The first, I think, has already been made tought not answered: ¿Is there a way to install IE7b2p along IE6? While I'd like to test my websites and everything, I can't do without IE6. I only have one computer (for me) in the office, and IE6 will be the most used browser for quite a long time.
The second is related to the system requirements. Or, better, how much slower than IE6 will it be? There are several old machines in the place were I work that could benefit from IE7. Is memory usage greater than before?

Thanks.

Why isn't bug reporting utility INTEGRATED into this BETA?

@TheTOM: 180A and 180C are used internally and not documented.

The following are new values:
0x2103 Allow status bar updates via script (URLACTION_FEATURE_SCRIPT_STATUS_BAR)
0x2104 Always show address bar on windows(URLACTION_FEATURE_FORCE_ADDR_AND_STATUS)
0x2301 Run antiphishing check (URLACTION_ALLOW_APEVALUATION)
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@Nuno Santos:

The McAfee issue is known and we'll work on this for a future build. This was caused by stricter URL-scheme handling.
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@Shane: Re: "Favorites needs some work. No export functionality."

You can export as you could in IE6, using the File menu.
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@InfoNote: "converts it to a clickable link."

There are various GreaseMonkey clones available for IE. You can also use IEToys (http://www.bayden.com/ietoys), which will allow you to select some text and choose "Linkify and open" from the context menu.
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@mitch: Re: download resumption

IE6 and IE7 will both resume downloads if the server supports it. You should take care to not retry the download until the connection is resumed, or else the download will restart at the beginning. This is an area we're looking at for a future release of the browser.
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@cooperpx: We'll look into this digest issue. Thanks.
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@Matthew: You can use CTRL+E to get to the search box.
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@Jeff: The anti-phishing balloon should go away after a few times. What type of proxy server are you using? Is it an authenticating proxy server? There's a known issue we're working on there.
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@Andrey: There are third-party plugins offering Gestures support. Here's one that's reported to work well with IE7, including source: http://www.codeproject.com/atl/MouseGestures.asp
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@Eric: "Some secure sites are not accessable anymore. Online banking site for instance. (Wells Fargo)"

What are the symptoms? Several banks are hardcoded to look for IE6, and we're contacting them to request that they permit IE7 as well. You can temporarily work around this problem by faking the IE6 user-agent. See http://www.fiddlertool.com/useragent.aspx
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Thanks for all the feedback!

Hey there I got two things I am not happy first for some weird reason my Mcafee Security Center will not open up. Let me explain more I can open the program but it will not show anything on the screen. I have everything up todate but I still can not see anything. I try to reinstall the MSC and when it is tring to reinstall the screen is blank. I never had this problem before I installed IE7. The next thing is that I own the Microsoft Fingure Print Reader and when I installed IE7 I lost most of my settings. That is pretty FREAKIN DUMB so what everytime I want to install a new version of IE or a new WINDOWS I will lose my settings.

Some freezing on different pages,other than that,I like it.Maybe allow the tool bar to auto hide in next version.Just an Idea

I wish I could Ctrl click a folder in the favourites menu or the Links bar and have all bookmarks contained within open in tabs.

Eric, Thank you for your reply. I have one other comment after using IE7 for a little while now. The find box could really use some updating, I know I hate to say it but again, FF has a good idea with it on the bottom out of the way. The best part though is that it starts searching as you type, no need to "press enter" or click "Find Next."

Thanks again.

p.s. Thank you for the tip for Ctrl-E. I think I actually might start using the integrated search box ;).

Sorry, last comments. Just a few UI suggestions. The "Quick Tabs" button is spaced a little strangely next to the "Add to Favorites button" and also, since your going with the "less is more" philosophy, why not put the "+" (Add to Favorites) button inside the Favorites pop out window?

For that matter...it's strange to have the buttons isolated on the left, next to the tabs...if you put the tabs up top and the address bar on the bottom, it would make more sense with the Bookmarks button next to the back/forward buttons. (probably not going to happen)

For mom and pop, it might make sense to enable the Text to the right of the icons (Home, Rss, Print) to make it easier on them. Just like in IE6, we would then have an option to hide the text (for advanced users).

Riffola, You can do that by right clicking the folder and clicking "Open in Tab Group". Adding the control key for power users would make it easier though.

@Mark McKinnon: Unfortunately, the problem with the McAfee security center is a known issue and a workaround is not available yet. We're working on this.
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@mitch: Yes, "Find on Page" hasn't seen as much improvement as we would have liked for IE7. Stay tuned to the IE blog for more on this feature.

Came across a menu bug at: http://www.asp.net/default.aspx?tabindex=8&tabid=60

Each menu is the full width of the page, and they extend about halfway down the page, like a ladder.

Hello,

I'm having the same problem several people described above regarding IE7 Beta 1 Uninstall. I did some searching and it looks like a lot of people are complaining about this problem but I am yet to see a working solution. As I installed it months ago, System Restore is not an option.

Can someone from IE team please advise how IE7 Beta 1 can be UNINSTALLED if it does not show up in Add/Remove Programs?

Thanks!
Adil

Found the "classic toolbar" appreciate you adding it back.

Scrolling is jerky on sites like msn.com and slashdot.org. IE 6 is smooth on those site.

Why can't we move the buttons to where we want? At a minimum you should allow me to move the home menu to where I want.

"# re: Please send us your feedback on the IE7 Beta 2 Preview
Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:44 PM by EricLaw [MSFT]
@Mark McKinnon: Unfortunately, the problem with the McAfee security center is a known issue and a workaround is not available yet. We're working on this."

Does that mean MSC is turn off I really need to know ASAP if it is I need to know ASAP if I uninstall it IE7 will it bring it back.

BTW the http://www.rsac.org/ RSACI that you have in the content advisor has been ICRA since 1999 I think someone needs to fix that.

I would like an option in Feed Settings (Tools->Internet Options->Content->Feeds) where I can set the default time to check for updates. The 1 day too long for me and I would prefer not to have to change that for all feeds I add.

If the user interface can't be cusomized to something resembling IE6, buttons where I want them, address bar where I want it, crap I dont want turned off, then there will be one less IE user

please allow a password management system like Moz's, i.e. no need to type in password

BTW, can this current version work with the Microsoft Fingerprint Reader? Will the gold product work w/it?

I was looking forward to evaluating WinIE7 Beta 2 in terms of CSS support to my clients' Web sites. However, after installing the Beta 2 version it overwrote IE6. Undaunted, and knowing how you guys like us developers to suffer, I uninstalled it and tried the ridiclous suggestion of using Virtual PC to run a second OS with IE7 reinstalled.

After downloading the trial VPC 2004 and sacrificing 128mb of RAM, VPC refused to recognize a perfectly valid full licensd version of XP Pro. I gave up at this point.

I happly run multiple versions of FF, NN, and Opera without this nonsense.

Please find a way that a developer can sensibly evaluate IE7 alongside IE6 without the need to butcher resources such as RAM and physical to virtual constructs just to view a different browser version.

It is clear that CSS hacks will still need to be tiered to accommodate IE7, IE6 and pre IE6 with this new release. Let us hope that we can at least test these hacks so that our Web sites work in your browsers.

The interface and tags look nice but it ain't about only nice, is it.

I am a diehard IE guy. I had hoped that the new beta would have brought more functionality for the developer.
Like easy on/off of tabs(maybe an icon button).

Button for "view source" that opens up the code nicely formatted out rather than notepad.

Able to put my toolbars where I want them(home,feed,print,ect)I can't find a way to move them to where I want.

Able to view in IE or Firefox for development of web pages much needed(Firefox already has).

Everyone but me in our web department has moved to firefox mainly for this reason and we are a .Net shop.

Come on guy don't make me have to switch..

I found that if you uncheck "Use Smooth Scrolling". Tools,Internet Options,Advanced.

My scrolling started working properly.

I've only had this for a couple of hours, so I haven't really tested it thoroughly, two thumbs up on the interface and type. The experience is much better.

On RSS
IE7 can't read the following RSS Feed
http://www.jordanplanet.net/rss20.xml

Automatic Download of Enclosures? How does this work, where are the files donwloaded?

I share the same working Offline issue that has been mentioned earlier. Starting dialup connection, connecting, then start IE7, connect to website, then start Outlook Newsreader will bring up a no internet connection found dialog "Would you like to go offline?" incorrectly, as there is an internet connection.

Tried reporting using the beta reporting tool above, but it wouldn't allow upload to Microsoft for some reason (maybe related to this issue?)

Feature suggestion. Windows Media Player hides its whole classic menu behind a single button. I would like to see a similar button on the IE toolbar, as having the whole classic menu displayed is a little untidy.

It took me a while to realise that CTRL-F was find on webpage, this is not mouse accessible any more without the classic menu, I cannot mouse select Work Offline any more either, however I might not have found it yet.

However, great release.

I've been running IE7 Beta 2 all day with no problems. Installation was painless and most functionallity seems intact. I have to agree, however, that the new toolbars are designed just to be different. I like the little bit of extra screen space but not at the expense of an interface drastically different from every other app on my computer. The location of the search box is identical to Firefox, so FF users will feel comfortable with that. Uninstall is available from the Add/Remove programs in the Control Panel but only with "Show Updates" checked. It is, after all, an update to the OS. Finally, and really my biggest issue so far, is the scroll wheel on my MS Mouse doesn't work in the Favorites sidebar (or whatever it's called in IE). As I have many, many bookmarks, this is just a little bit of an inconvenience. Overall, pretty good. Like others, I'll hold off final judgement until the release of Vista.

Qantas airways (Australias big airline) online reward bookings does not allow flight bookings using this browser, detecting it as Netscape 6.0!

If you're talking to companies about websites, try them too!

Help...i installed IE7 and cannot get to any web site i type in the address bar...nothing happens!!WTF...i can surf only by clicking on links within the first website that popped up..

In your blog posting earler:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/12/07/501075.aspx

You mentioned that computers connected to a workgroup and not a domain will not have an Intranet zone. After downloading the beta 2 preview, I noticed that the Internet Options still has the "Local Intranet" listed as a field with associated options. Why is it still listed?

http://www.creative.com/language.asp?sDestUrl=/support/downloads

The above url to creative's website doesn't work with IE7 B2 Preview, could someone either contact them? Or is it a bug in IE?

Thanks.

Another thing, it seems IE 7.0 is not compatbile with Blogger. When editing, what you type doesn't appear on the screen.

The addition of XMLHttpRequest is very nice, but for really advanced AJAX applications (like xopus.com) to run without ActiveX alerts we need XMLDocument and XSLDocument as well!

This is really important! XMLHttpRequest is only half of the AJAX toolkit!

The address bar is still always visible on popup windows. As a web-application developer it is annoying to have the address always visible.

It would be nice if the address bar could be hidden as in IE6 - perhaps this could be limited to trusted sites only?

PingBack from http://www.thinklemon.com/weblog/2006/02/01/internet-explorer-7-beta-2-preview-available/

If I start messenger and log in correctly and I have a new messages I click on tab and internet explorer starts but two pages are opened and hotmail tell me that the passwoard and username are wrong.
But If I go on internet with www.hotmail.com and insert the correct username and password all work! IS A BUG?

Another MGA gripe. I'm the Admin for the entire network, I couldn't have more permission if I tried, before someone tries to blame me for my problems.
We're a volume license site, all our keys are legit, the WGA site verifies that my box is legal, but the IE7 installer is unable to verify. Very annoying.

1 addition to my user-experience reaction:

where did the refresh button go?

Strangely enough, IE7 is not fully Unicode 4.1 compatible, not even 4.0.1 compatible, just like Office 2003 products. The bidi class of some characters including: +, -, / and FRACTION SLASH has changed in Unicode 4.0.1, but IE7, like Office 2003, behaves base on Unicode 4.0. Is there any plan to correct it?

Thank you for the clarification on exporting favorites.

Oddly I had no idea that you could do this in IE6 either.

Perhaps a link to the same functionality via a button on the favorites centre? - It would seem intuative to me.

Seems to be a problem with dropdown lists i.e. you cannot use the mouse to select items from the list using the down arrow is also problematic. Has anyone else seen this?

Much better than Beta 1. Only major gripe - PLEASE restore the default color of visited links to a proper purple color - the new "light" purple is close in tone to the default blue - this is a usability no-no - it is hard to distinguish visited links from fresh - adding to cognitive processing time!

There is absolutely nothing about software that breaks systems as much as Microsoft's "Genuine Advantage" malware that is actually advantageous to the customer. Truth in labelling laws should be applied. Then again, if lemon laws were applied to Microsoft products, Microsoft would have gone broke long ago.

Shane Perran:

It's next to the address bar :)

Looks great but...

Can't open Favourites using menu option, just makes 'Bing' sound
Can't open website from Favourites Center, will not open page by doubleclicking or by rightclick open. just does nothing

Also be nice to have the option when right-clicking a link to 'Open in new tab windows'

Found a bug in select lists. Adding an removing items from a select list with more than one row (i.e. size greater than 1) using the DOM does not change / add / remove the scroll bar.

To re-create:

var newoption = document.createElement("option");
newoption.text = "test";
newoption.value = "1";
var add = document.getElementById("myselect").options.add(newoption);

Just crashed as I was writing some feedback - hitting the Submit button did nothing so I hit F5 to refresh and IE terminated.

Anyway...just installed this onto a laptop and IE has insisted on using cleartype. The reason I don't use cleartype is because I DON'T want to use it; this isn't a choice the browser should make for me. Also, to disable it, IE requires a restart but this is not made clear in the options. Finally, IE changed my taskbar clock format.

Are system changes really needed for installing just a single application?!

Just crashed as I was writing some feedback - hitting the Submit button did nothing so I hit F5 to refresh and IE terminated.

Anyway...just installed this onto a laptop and IE has insisted on using cleartype. The reason I don't use cleartype is because I DON'T want to use it; this isn't a choice the browser should make for me. Also, to disable it, IE requires a restart but this is not made clear in the options. Finally, IE changed my taskbar clock format.

Are system changes really needed for installing just a single application?!

First impressions of IE7 look good, but I have issues with the user interface. The main annoyance is there are certain features of the UI that you can't move (e.g. address/search bar, favourites button) etc.

I find it really frustrating being forced to adopt a specific layout and would request more features that allow the customisation of the current layout.

For example, I'd like to have my favourites appear on the right hand side, rather than the left (my brain is just wired that way). I'd also like to be able to move the address/search bar from it's location at the top window, to the bottom of the window.

Thanks,

Wesley Williams