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Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

This evening we released IE7 Beta 2 at http://www.microsoft.com/ie. This release is not the preview or the update to the preview, but the real Beta 2 of IE7 for Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003 SP1, and Windows XP 64-bit Edition. Simply: please try it.

We acted on a lot of the feedback and bug reports from the previous public releases. In particular, I feel good about changes we made based on reports from web developers around some CSS behaviors, application compatibility feedback, reliability data (yes, we do analyze the information that comes when you click “Send Error Report”), and user experience feedback. People on the team will post additional details about changes over the next few days.

For those of you outside the United States, we will release German, Finnish, Arabic, and Japanese versions over the next three weeks.

This beta is another step to our goal of delivering a safer and easier browsing experience when we release the final IE7 product in the second half of this year. I’m looking forward to reading the feedback - positive and negative - as it comes in. Beyond consumers, I encourage developers, web developers, designers, and IT Pros to use Readiness Toolkit to deliver the best possible experience to end users in IE7.

For this Beta 2 release, we’re taking the extra step of offering no-charge phone support to consumers in North America, Germany and Japan. We’re offering phone support to encourage people who usually shy away from beta software to try IE7 Beta 2. We believe that IE7 - even at this beta stage - is a significant improvement and we want as many people as possible to try it and use it. IE7 is feature complete and has been through significant compatibility and reliability testing. People (especially technology enthusiasts) will have a good experience with it. 

What’s next? Windows Vista Beta 2, and then Beta 3 of IE7, release candidates, and then a final release before end of year.

Thanks,

Dean

P.S. Please remember to uninstall any previous IE7 builds before installing this one: Control Panel, Add / Remove Programs, Show Updates, scroll to the bottom.

Published Monday, April 24, 2006 9:05 PM by ieblog

Comments

# IE7 Beta 2 - come and get it!!

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:13 AM by Alex Barnett blog
IE Team blog:"This evening we released IE7 Beta 2 at http://www.microsoft.com/ie.
This release is not...

# IE7 Beta 2 is now available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:30 AM by Dave Massy's WebLog
Beta 2 is now available for XP SP2, Windows 2003 Server SP1 and x64 editions. http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/04/24/582546.aspx has...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:48 AM by Rosyna
It seems from various sites one of the major issues is lame web devs that "code" their sites based on a user agent string. Curse IE7 for being less compatible by changing the user agent string. (That's a joke, but what these people actually say).

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:59 AM by Iron Yuppie
Ah Beta 2... let the testing begin. I've been running IE 7 for a while, I just love it. Nice work IE team!

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:05 AM by Eric Ellenberg
Does this beta release resolve all known and outstanding security issues with IE7?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:14 AM by Gans
My God, you've had a TON of feedback on how retarded the UI is. Why HAVE YOU NOT acted on that? The buttons are in seemingly random places. Why is the feed icon so hard to detect? Why arent the stop and refresh buttons just ONE button and why is it not close the the forward/backward button? Allow some customization perhaps? What the hell is so hard about allowing users to place buttons where they want them since apparently the UI team has no idea what the hell they are doing?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:20 AM by PatriotB
I'll reply to just one segment of Gans's comment:

"Why arent the stop and refresh buttons just ONE button"

Early versions of IE7 had them combined, and I'm glad they separated them back out.  There are several scenarios in which separate Refresh and Stop buttons are necessary:

- Web page is still loading but you already want to refresh it.  Having one button would require you to click twice: once to stop, once to refresh.
- Similar scenario to the above, except the page, once loaded, occasionally loads more data dynamically from the server (e.g. an AJAX-style page).  It makes sense that you should be able to Refresh it at any time, regardless of whether it's currently in a download operation.
- Web page, fully loaded, is playing a background sound and you want to stop it.  You need a stop button to do this.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:42 AM by ieblog
We've gotten feedback but we're also conforming to elements of the new UIs in Microsoft products.

- Al Billings [MSFT]

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:51 AM by v_allen
Hey Gans,
If you're a designer maybe you want to put some line and circles on a page, scan it and send to IE Team, maybe they will take that as a future UI, what'd you say about this?
By the way, my feed icon is very easy to find, maybe you don't know how the RSS button looks like?...

# Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 זמינה להורדה

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:04 AM by TrackBack
גרסת בטא 2 סופית של IE7 זמינה להורדה למערכות Windows XP SP2, Windows XP בגרסת 64 ביט, ו- WIndows Server 2003 SP1. בגרסת הבטא החדשה מספר שינויים המבוססים על משוב ודיווחים על באגים מגרסאות קודמות.

# TechCrunch » IE7 Beta 2 Ships

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:25 AM by TechCrunch » IE7 Beta 2 Ships

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:43 AM by rickdog
does this co-exist with IE6, or does it replace?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:47 AM by Xepol
Can't please everyone all the time, but so far it looks ok.

Timeouts seem to be fixed and now I'll go hunt down some previous browse sequence problems.

I kinda wish the full screen mode toolbar glitch was fixed, but maybe next rev.

The new backgrounds on the buttons look cool and I just noticed the orange background the other day for a waiting dialog.  Nice, it immediately attracted my attention just the way it should.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:50 AM by ieblog
Rickdog,

It replaces IE6 (just as IE6 replaced IE5.5).

- Al Billings [MSFT]

# Fudgiepoos » Blog Archive » Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:03 AM by cjackson27
I think I mistakenly deleted the IE 7 Beta 2 Preview uninstaller while cleaning up my hard drive.  When I went to remove it, it just quickly removed it from the Add/Remove Programs box, but didn't actually uninstall it.  What can I do?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:20 AM by xfinx
First some good points ;-)

-My website works now in IE7b2!
-The installation went really nice

Now some bad points :(
-I just installed it, and it is highly unstable!
within 2 minutes IE 7b2 crashed twice!
-Hovering links looks really slow several sites.
-The addressbar, when it 'pops' out to show history, shows it over the tabs, making the tabs invisible.. mm it hangs again :(

# IE7 Beta 2 Launched!

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:44 AM by Tonynet Explorer
I'm happy to announce that we shipping IE7 Beta 2 today for Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003 SP1, and our x64 editions. My boss, Dean, blogged about the details on the IE blog, so I won't repeat those here. You can get the new bits on http://www.microsoft.com/ie/.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:47 AM by Tomal
Nice work out there ..... i m now downloadin the beta 2 ......

Has the following issues been resolved ??

1. Yahoo Mail login page ....... text is misplaced at http://mail.yahoo.com

2. Sometimes all images in the webpage do not load at first run ..... u have to refresh again to load the remaining images ..... this problem was mostly noticed in pages where there were lots of large sized images.

# IE7 beta 2 released

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:54 AM by Cyril 's Blog
Une nouvelle version de IE7 est disponible. La dernière version en date se nommait IE7 beta2 preview...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:12 AM by Oofda
I use 4 tabs when my browser opens.  I have some links in my first tab that open a 5 tab, which is what I want.  Not when I am done with that 5th tab I close it.  I want to automatically go back to the first tab but I end up in the 4th tab (last tab after I close the fifth).  This is not the tab I was in before the fifth tab opened, I want to go to the tab I had open before the fifth tab opened (the first tab).  

So far setup was pretty straight forward.  Also is there a way to move the URL window right above the tabs?

# 2dayBlog - Technology Journal, New Gadget everyday! » Blog Archive » Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 Ships

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:24 AM by Stuart
Is anyone else seeing 100% CPU utilisation after installing this. I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 with all hotfixes. I installed this on my notebook that was running IE6 with all updates. Now, everytime I launch IE7 I see that task manager reports iexplore.exe using 99% of the CPU. Any ideas? Can I roll back to IE6?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:26 AM by hAl
Can't a mod remove all of those blog references in the comments ?

# Nowa, stara, beta 2 IE7

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:30 AM by stic
Hej,Nie wiem jak to możliwe, ale nikt jeszcze nie napisałe o odświeżonej becie IE 7, która wczoraj semi-oficjalnie...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:31 AM by EricLaw [MSFT]
@Oofda: There are some tab-behavior options in Tools | Internet Options | General | Tab Settings.

To move the addressbar below the menu bar, see http://blogs.msdn.com/tonyschr/archive/2006/01/31/521542.aspx

@Stuart: There are a few bugs which might cause high CPU usage.   First off, do you have the IE developer toolbar on?  Do you have the Phishing filter on?  What URL are you visiting?

To uninstall and go back to IE6, simply go to Add/Remove Programs in the system control panel.

# Nowa, stara, beta 2 IE7

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:32 AM by stic
Co tu dużo gadać...
Nowa wersja IE7 beta 2 jest już dostępna do pobrania...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:36 AM by Stuart
@EricLaw: thanks I had just figured it out prior to your post. I went to uninstall IE7 from the control panel and noticed that I had the developer toolbar installed, so I tried to uninstall that first. Now it's working ok. Cheers!

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:43 AM by Henrie Clifford Garcia
This morning i downloaded it and installed it. Unfortunatly my biggest problem i have is still unsolved.

I still can't upload and/or edit photo's in my Spaces of MSN.

Shame, but the rest of IE7 beta 2 looks very good. It's also a lot quicker.

HC

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:45 AM by Mike
Worked once and after that freezes every time opened. I am used to trying out beta versions of firefox they crash after a few days use. This everytime I open it, I would like to test my current web site work but can't.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:59 AM by EricLaw [MSFT]
@Stuart: We've released a newer build of the Developer toolbar that no longer hangs.  Grab it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=E59C3964-672D-4511-BB3E-2D5E1DB91038&displaylang=en

@Henrie: What happens when you try to upload photos to MSN?

@Mike: Do you have the toolbar installed? The hang/crash on boot is a symptom of a buggy plugin or BHO.  Have you tried running IE in add-on free mode?  Start | Programs | Accessories | System Tools.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:09 AM by Rich227
Does this release contain fixes for the NIS 2005 script errors

# beta @ amanzi » Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 is now available

# TechCrunch en fran??ais » IE7 beta 2 arrive

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:40 AM by TechCrunch en fran??ais » IE7 beta 2 arrive

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:42 AM by John
1. Why doesn't IE7 render in Window Blinds?
2. Why does it presume to be the default browser, or did poor mug me do something wrong?
3. Why havn't you gone all the way with CSS. eg Pseudo-elements etc. The word is you have drawn the line under CSS and this is a good as it gets for IE7 final.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:47 AM by Stecki
While the previews of the beta worked fine, I can not get this beta to work:
After starting IE, it uses 100% cpu and you can not close or move the window.
But interestingly enough, it is possible to browse through pages.
But I can not switch from favorites to feeds: When I try to do that, my window gets corrupted (some black rectangle where possibly a tooltip for a feed should show up etc)

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:57 AM by Matthew
I really like the new builds - have been using the preview for some time and it's replaced Firefox as my browser of choice.  Just to counter the criticism of the UI, I think it works great as it is.  I appreciate that a typical user might have to make a bit of effort to adapt, but I think it's a big improvement on just about any other browser UI out there.  I'm glad the Stop and Refresh buttons are seperate again, and I dispute the suggestion that the UI team "don't know what they're doing", it's refreshing that something  different has been tried rather than feeling obliged to leave the buttons in the same places as they've always been in.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:59 AM by Peter Gasston
Is this just a bug-fix/tweak release from the Beta Preview? Without wishing to imply you're lazy, why will the full release only take place later this year? With so much time until launch, couldn't the rendering engine be worked on some more?

Fingers crossed there'll be an IE7.5 next year, with complete CSS2.1 support - and, who knows, E4X or SVG...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:04 AM by Glenn De Backer
Are there any plans or tips for using IE7 next to IE6 ? Unfortunatly we - as webdesigners/developer - will still to need support IE6 for along time to come. It would make live so much easier then if we just could use IE7 next to IE6... .

We could use virtual machine's but buying for every developer a windows an virtual pc licence just to support older IE6 browsers seems overkill. Clearly there must be a solution for this.    

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:11 AM by Jon
It's been said before elsewhere on comments here, but this beta should be standalone so that developers - presumably the target test market initially - can continue to use IE6 for live testing. I'm very interested to see IE7 but none of my users will be using it, so I need to test against IE5.5 and 6. As do most developers, I should think.

So, at present, I will have a quick play on CSS Zen Garden, and will then be forced to uninstall. It's a shame, as I'd have liked to have it around longer - and I'm not prepared to try one of the myriad of hacks available to persuade several versions to run in standalone modes, especially on a work machine.

Could one of the MSIE bloggers be persuaded to comment on the possibility of helping us out here?

# Fanatic Live » Blog Archive » Hack Day, Internet Explorer 7 & Technorati top 100

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:17 AM by Jason Cox
Great job, IE Team! Also as I'm running Vista now I cant upgrade to Beta 2, so if someone could be so kind and let me know what build IE7 Beta 2 is, thanks.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:28 AM by John Magnus
cjackson27, I had problems installing the new beta as well. The IE7 uninstaller was missing from add/remove. I hunted down the uninstaller path on another computer, simply running it removed IE7B2P and I could install the new beta...

Path to the uninstaller (at least on my computer): WindowsFolder\$NtUninstallie7beta2$\spuninst\spuninst.exe

I guess if you've deleted this folder (when doing your house cleaning) you could try copying this folder from another computer. Though I would suggest copying it from a computer that's similar to yours (given IE's thight integration with Windows). Might work...

Disclaimer: I have no idea if this might work, nor do I know what unwanted side effects this might have...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:31 AM by Vilius Šumskas
@Stecki: I can confirm this on Windows XP x64 Edition machine only with 32bit Internet Explorer. 64bit version on XP x64 and 32bit version on XP SP2 works fine.

# Internet Explorer Beta 2 now available (full beta - not the preview)

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:07 AM by MSFT Upstate NY Technology News and Events
On April 24th the Windows Internet Explorer team here at Microsoft released IE7 Beta 2 at http://www.microsoft.com/ie....

# Changes?

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:08 AM by piotr potera [poland]
Hi!
Any differences between this version (06/04/24) and that, from 20th of march?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:11 AM by mk
In this version tabs function does not work for me. I don't have tabs in the top of browser visible, even that they are enabled. I can shitched on them only by ctrl+tab keys combination. Beta2 preview worked fine for me. Where is the problem?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:22 AM by deadcantdance
When wil the german version be available?

# IDN Domain Name Blog » Blog Archive » IE7 Beta 2 officially released to public

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:52 AM by Sven Groot
I posted this on Channel9 too, but I'll repeat it here:

It worries me that my two current pet bugs aren't fixed yet (well, one of them worries me, the other I didn't report until this weekend so it's not strange it hasn't been fixed).

The first one (which is the one I reported nearly two months ago) is the "IE7 displays an unneeded horizontal scrollbar when the page contains right-floated italic text" (example: http://www.ookii.org/misc/scrollbarbug.html, https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?SiteID=4&FeedbackID=47754). This one has existed since the first IE7 Beta2 Preview for XPSP2, and has been in every build for XP or Vista since.

The second one is "An element with position:absolute inside an element with position:relative inside an element with a left padding subtracts the padding from the absolute offset" (example: http://www.ookii.org/misc/position_absolute_padding_bug.html, https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?SiteID=4&FeedbackID=64156). This one was in the previous IE7 Beta2 Preview, but it wasn't in Vista 5342. It did however show up in Vista 5365 which is when I bugged it.

Both of these bugs happen in strict mode, are not due to IE6 workarounds but actual bugs in IE7, and have been seen on actual pages "in the wild" which would need to be modified if they aren't fixed. The last thing us web developers need is another set of workarounds that apply to IE7 but not to IE6.

# otro blog m?s » Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:04 AM by otro blog m?s » Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:12 AM by * Sigh *
Where's the changelog posted?

# Microsoft releases Internet Explorer Beta 2

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:17 AM by Gabriel Lozano-Morán - The .NET Aficionado
The Internet Explorer Team announced on their blog the availability of Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2. Supported...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:19 AM by Mele
Gee, this version is worse than the last beta. It forgot my default font and I can see why. Verdana is awful in this beta. Verdana is the font I want to use. I am reading this blog on Firefox because the blog looks awful on IE7. PCWorld Today has an article about this latest beta and it is unreadable on IE. I had to switch to Fx, or Opera, or SeaMonkey all of which manage to use Verdana with no problems.  Verdana font is the easiest for aging eyes to read and IE should not be shutting out older users.

Plus, you have not fixed the font size problem in text reply boxes and IM boxes on websites. There is NO point in having text zoom if the user cannot have ALL text on the page enlarged. I posted about this problem when I got my first IE7 beta back in January. I posted to the MS IE NG and Microsoft replied and asked me for websites where this problem existed (which I supplied) and said you were going to fix this. Well, it sure isn't fixed yet. I can't use IE because I can't read the tiny font in the text reply box or the IM box, for example, at my home site of dslreports.com.  

I was so eager to try IE7 when I heard, at long last, it would have text zoom. But that is a big bust. I have not used IE since I got my 19" flat panel digital LCD monitor in November 2003. It has a high resolution and I have got to be able to have text on a page at a readable size.

What irritates me about this issue even more is that you are playing a bad game of catch up! Gee, Fx, SM, Opera no longer need text zoom. I just set the minimum text size to 20 and that is that. IE7 still does not offer me the ability to set a minimum text size!! That is awful. So, you try to compensate with an old fashioned text zoom feature that doesn't even work.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:22 AM by [Matrix]
I don't have tabs in the top of browser visible, even that they are enabled.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:42 AM by Reder
Why do you think everyone has to "learn" a new frontend for web browsing? In navigation and also settings 'intuitively' seem unknown. It is like a car with a wheel under the hood. PLEASE ask some users instead of geeks!

# UI still sucks

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:49 AM by John Dibble
The UI hasn't at all changed from the last release as far as I can tell. It still has all the browsing buttons all over the place rather than together, the optional menu bar in between the tabs and address bar instead of at the top where people are used to it being, and absolutely no degree of customization available to the user. Were all the UI suggestions from the previous release simply ignored? If you just couldn't fit UI changes into this beta release, fine, just please give us some indication that you're actually listening to our suggestions.

I'm switching over to Firefox permanently if this is the UI I have to deal with on a permanent basis. I further dread the idea that the UI for Vista is gonna be similar.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:56 AM by [Matrix]

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:01 AM by The Hater
Changelog, please?

We developers like to know what you've fixed since the last version. It helps us support your browser.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:13 AM by riceboyler
Developer Toolbar appears to be breaking redirects on the newest build.  I submitted a bug using the Beta Tool, but for those Toolbar Developers, I thought this might go quicker.

I'm assuming we'll see a new build of it in the not too distant future, as has been the case with previous preview releases.

The new build of IE7 is fantastic otherwise.  Keep up the great work.  One feature request?  I'm addicted to the RSS feed aggregator, but I would LOVE for it to notify me when a feed has been updated with a sound or a popup or something.  I realize this may be too much, but it sure would be a handy addition.  Then I could lose FeedReader.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:13 AM by william
So.. 'P.S. Please remember to uninstall any previous IE7 builds before installing this one: Control Panel, Add / Remove Programs, Show Updates, scroll to the bottom.'... but nothing there..

(still using IE7b2 7.0.5335.5, with a very irritating history option that forgets pages and willing to upgrade right away :). Dutch WinXP.

# hanging problem solved

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:14 AM by Mike
Reinstalled after uninstalling to IE toolbar and the hanging problem has stopped. Initially seems ok, although I think there are problems with using vml and page zoom. I need to investigate this a bit further though.

Thanks for the advice

Mike

# Liberado Internet Explorer 7 beta 2

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:24 AM by Meio Bit
A Microsoft esta aprontando o Internet Explorer 7, e acaba de liberar para o público o beta 2 do IE. Dizem que estão melhorando a compatibilidade com padrões web e interface, de acordo com muito feedback dos usuários. Em tempo:...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:31 AM by Dao
My website's menu is still broken:
http://design-noir.de/

It's a CSS1 bug, and I'm not willing to apply a workaround. You probalby don't care, do you?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:36 AM by Andrew Dai
Well done to the team for finally improving the Find dialog. It used to take seconds to open but now Ctrl-F is almost instant and with it defaulting to a corner of the screen it actually let's you see what you're searching for!

# Search Engine Journal » Internet Explorer 7 Beta Now Available for Download

# Updated: New Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 is no preview

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:45 AM by TechBlog
Finally, we can take the quote marks off of "Beta 2" for the latest test release of Internet Explorer 7. It's the deal, not a preview, as the two earlier releases were called. Get it here. I've not had the...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:50 AM by [Matrix]
Fix for hidden tabs:

1.unpack ie7 beta2
2.goto folder "update"
3.install patch "xmllitesetup.exe"
 KB915865

Very good browser.

# Is this avail on Microsoft Update?

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:56 AM by Sean Kerner
i spoke with an IE team member yesterday (Margaret Cobb, Internet Explorer Group Product Manager at Microsoft,) and she told me that IE Beta 2 would be available on Microsoft Update as an optional download.
Unless my MIX build happens to be blocking it i don't see it.
Is IE 7 B2 going to be avail on Microsoft update or did Margaret lead me astray?

# Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 to be abandoned? » at Tom Raftery’s I.T. views

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:13 AM by Dao
Oh, and of course min/max-width/height are sill broken, too:
http://design-noir.de/Bilder/Urlaub/05_Spreewald/#~DSCN4484.jpg

That's fantastic.

# Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 - Ekshi.Blog

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:16 AM by Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 - Ekshi.Blog

# Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 공개!

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:19 AM by bkchung's WebLog
http://www.microsoft.com/ie
프리뷰(XP Only)에 이어 Beta 2(XP/2003)가 공개되었습니다. 여기서 다운로드 받으실 수 있습니다. Release...

# STANDALONE MODE

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:19 AM by Jeff L
I'm really not sure why MS is so reluctant to offer a standalone mode.  I'm thrilled that MS is putting effort into IE (even though I am a FF user) but if I can't test my pages properly on IE6 and IE7 this is a major issue.  I know that you guys know about it - why don't you care?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:34 AM by Vilius Šumskas
@riceboyler: Confirmed. After uninstalling IE dev toolbar everything is back normal again. Thanks for heads up!

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:36 AM by rohit
i keep getting erros on installation

# the text gives me a headache

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:39 AM by Mike
I agree with Mele, there is something very wrong with the new text. I find my eyes strain while using the browser, and it appears worse on certain pages. I have mild astigmatism which I am sure compounds the issue, but I never had a problem with IE6.

I hope this is not how text is rendered in vista.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:49 AM by Dimpy
I guess there is a lot of work required in terms of CSS rendering issues. I tried opening 10-12 pages and found 3-4 unusual things. The most annoying one being the gmail menu buttons having wierd wrapper around their names. (Inbox, Sent, etc.)

Navigation buttons all over the place, just stick to the basics !!

All in all, good work. I personally like the "Quick Tabs" feature.

Best of luck with the next beta...

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:55 AM by Le Marquis
This is just stupid, a MSN 7 & 8 both as beta? Or will there be a big difference in Msn beta 8 and the current 7?

LE MARQUIS

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:05 AM by ieblog
Mike,

You should try turning off ClearType. In the Advanced Tab of your Internet Options in IE, there is a "Use ClearType" setting in the Multimedia area. Uncheck that.

Al Billings [MSFT]

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:07 AM by ieblog
John Dibble,

Feedback about the UI was heard and there are some changes. Now, that being said, the UI as a whole is moving in a new direction and this is not being abandoned. There is going to be a period of adjustment for some but we think the new UI is much better overall.

Al Billings [MSFT]

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:13 AM by Wraith Daquell
The gui changes are superb! Despite what the mumurers say, I like the refresh/stop button change. It makes browing quicker. And the coporate-blue tab bar looks much more professional than firefox's.

5 out of 5, IE team!

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:21 AM by Adam Kennedy
Now that we are getting close to seeing IE 7 finally complete, are you guys happy you've dealt with the various memory leaking issues to do with JavaScript/JScript?

Most of the ones reported by the JSAN people seemed to do with things like closures and the use of anonymous functions as event handlers, and so on.

Are you happy all of those cases, and other similar edge cases, and going to be worked out for IE 7 release?

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# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:50 AM by EricLaw [MSFT]
@piotr potera: Yes, there are differences between this version (06/04/24) and the 20th of march build.  Primarily, we've made a ton of bugfixes, but there are some other behavior and functionality tweaks as well.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:55 AM by Jim
The minor improvements in the UI, especially the tabs are really nice. Feel like the user interface is using even less space now, which is great. Back and Forward history bugs look to be fixed as well. On first glance, kudos!

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# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:21 PM by Geoff
IE7 worked fine for a bit with Firefox 1.5.0.2 However, firefox then crashed and refused to reboot insisting on sending messages to MS. Removed IE7 Firefox seems to work fine now :-)

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:34 PM by Pierre
The improvements, especially to the GUI which becomes the most noticeable to the average internet user, are reassuring so far.

I'm still pushing towards the stop/refresh to be next to the back/forward (it's all relative people!) but I doubt they'll revert the design.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:34 PM by Mike
I've been running Build 7.0.5296.0 for some time.  Is this release new that I should update?

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# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:55 PM by Bob
Is version .5346 the most current version of this IE7 Beta now?

Thank you,
Bob

# I will tell you where I want to go today

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:02 PM by * Sigh *
..to a browser that will let me arrange the buttons and toolbars where "I" like them.

Is anyone going to answer the changelog questions?

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# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:17 PM by ieblog
There is not going to be a changelist. We do not compile these internally and we have done a lot of general bug fixes over the last month. A laundry list of bug titles would not be useful.

This came up when we updated the preview last as well.

- Al Billings [MSFT]

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:37 PM by EricLaw [MSFT]
@Bob, @Mike: The current build it 5346.5.  It has many fixes since 5296.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:47 PM by John Dibble
No offense intended Al, but what 'we think' doesn't matter much - what your customers think does. Don't forget you're making a product, and if your users don't like it they won't use it. Pretty much everyone at the company I work at hates the UI for IE7. They hate that when you have the menu bar on it's in the middle rather than on the top, they hate that the navigation buttons are scattered all over the place, they just plain don't like it. At the very least you could allow us to move buttons and bars where we want them to be - the ability to customize would make many people much happier. Again, I stress that: let us put stuff where we as individuals want to put it. Freedom is good. IE6 lets us have a degree of freedom - that you're taking that away and locking us with one setup whether we like it or not just sucks.

You can expect more people to switch over to Firefox or another competitor if you lock us into this UI.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:51 PM by redxii
Well, what can I say? My only problem is that I have absolutely no say in how I customize the toolbars. I want the classic menu to be at the top and I don't want that command bar.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:58 PM by EricLaw [MSFT]
@Redxii: To move the addressbar below the menu bar, see http://blogs.msdn.com/tonyschr/archive/2006/01/31/521542.aspx

To get rid of the command bar, simply right-click and remove the commands from it.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:09 PM by Todd Clement
I do agree that the ui needs some re-consideration, or customization support like Opera(the best at this).  I also noticed that it looks like some of the hacks are still working can we get an update or a resouce page that continually updates us with what hacks will and will not work?          

# Customization

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:14 PM by Eurylochus
I have to say, I'm in agreement with the folks who want to be able to switch the buttons and whatnot around.  I'm a Mac user myself, but I do test out each new IE release on an old Pentium III box.  Haven't had a chance to try this one yet, but the most fatal flaw I found in the preview was the inability to alter the GUI.  It's a key feature of all the Mac browsers I use (specifically Camino and Shiira), but it's even supported in the browser that's packaged with the OS (Safari).  I understand you guys are trying to play a year of catchup to the other browsers on the market while being forced to adhere to Vista standards, but please; certain things are necessary.  The ability to control basic facets of the interface is one of them.
I look forward to the final release of both IE7 and Vista.  Good luck, gentlemen.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:15 PM by John Dibble
Thank you, EricLaw - that looks much better with that bar where it's been for over a decade. Now let's just get it so I don't have to go into my registry to do it: us techies might understand it but I wouldn't be sending your average user into the registry without parental supervision. ;)

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# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:23 PM by Mohamed Mansour
Hi, I was pretty amazed on how stable IE7 is now. Websites render better, there is still a hover rendering problems for links. If you look at my website and hover over a link in the bottom. It jumps.

Everything else is nice. the RSS is amazing :) I wish IE could have a RSS Live Bookmark so we place on the roolbar.

There is one problem which I don't enjoy at all.
When your using Tabbed browsing I would like to see the inactive tab dimmed a bit in color. The color is the same thing... I would like it to be a bit darker to represent its not active.


Thanks for this releaase :)

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:48 PM by Antonio
Why does the toolbar changes with tabs? once I open a new tab and go to it the links toolbar dissapears....why :(   ?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:50 PM by Boyd
I agree with the other comments, and the scattershot approach to the UI is unintuitive and a deal-breaker for a lot of people I know. Having to move the pointer all the way to the opposite side of the screen to click on a button is a horrible design that I don't want to get "adjusted" to. If it were a better design than the old one then I would adapt, but I'm not interested in adapting to something that's inferior when there are better alternatives out there. You've squandered the chance to win me back.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:02 PM by Hmmm
Curious, why is 5346 is B2 when its been mentioned 5358 is 'around' ? (dont have it)
I'll guess 5346 is more stable.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:04 PM by redxii
@EricLaw: Removing all the commands works until I close the browser and reopen it

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:06 PM by Boyd
Why does turning off "Clear Type" in Internet Options still not turn it off in Outlook?

# Bitelia

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:08 PM by Bitelia

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:11 PM by Evan
On one hand any change to the UI norm, even if truly better, will take a period of adjustment. On the other hand, some of the UI changes that I see in IE7 are novice mistakes (?) ... almost like there were no anthropological studies conducted about the UI changes and that the changes were driven or at least facilitated in some way by marketing.

The mouse should be required to move as little as possible. (Not moving it at all = keyboard shortcut). So, *almost all* navigation buttons should be grouped together, and one shouldn't have to move across screen from prev/next buttons to the home/refresh buttons. Just think how much screen real estate has to be traversed with a 25" widescreen LCD monitor!

Menu... put it at the top. Until voice recognition rivals Star Trek accuracy, the menu will remain the focal point of UI control. The address and nav bar is the focal point of navigation, not UI control.

I've used the Vista UI. Same comments. If MS maintains this UI direction without at least official built in on screen support (ie- not just a registry setting) to customize the layout then I foresee a tough sell.

My 2c – EA.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:33 PM by Vanessa
This probably isn't the right place and my apologies if the reasoning behind the current design has been addressed in the past, but having the address bar above the tabs really doesn't seem intuitive, or functional, or visually attractive.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6232/ie7addressbar1ec.jpg

Having the address bar located right underneath the tab (see picture link) makes sense to me because it is something that applies to the current tab only and not IE as a whole. For example: the address changes if you click on a different tab, and if you type in a new address, it changes the current tab so functionally speaking the address bar is a property of the currently open tab and its logical position would therefore seem to be where I placed it, underneath the tab.

Realizing that tastes invariably vary, I do think it blends in better this way as opposed to looking distinctively out of place where it is located right now.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:35 PM by perom@vt.edu
im highly enjoying ie7, and this beta 2 is the best yet.  i really enjoy the shading on the tabs and the other new ui touches.  

now, where's my vista beta 2 ;?)

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:41 PM by Jesper Thomsen
I can't uninstall the IE 7 preview version - the Add/Remove panel removed the uninstall folder from the windows directory, but didn't uninstall IE 7.... Do I have to do a repair installation of XP SP2 to fix this?

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:46 PM by Eric Cordian
IE7 crashes when invoked from desktop shortcuts created by dragging out favorites from the prior IE, and also when invoked from inside Knight Online after exiting the game.

Other than that, it looks cool and renders much faster.  

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# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:28 PM by Sven Groot
@Dao: I think I've narrowed down what's causing the problem with your menu. A floated element that contains a block level element with a specified height is not actually floated. This happens in both IE6 and IE7.

I'll file a bug report on this. Since it's not a regression and they're in layout freeze, I wouldn't hold my breath though.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:14 PM by Hank Maiden
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# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:17 PM by anphanax
For the people or person experiencing Firefox crashes, I have 1.5.0.2 (latest "stable") and it's not crashing anymore than it usually does. The non-modal find dialog is a very welcome feature in IE7, but I hope I can dock it in IE8 to the bottom of the screen.

For the people mentioning the menu being in the wrong place, I fixed that in my copy (it was done through regedit, don't remember exactly how :|). Also, people using VS2005 trying to create Windows CE C++ programs might run into an unexplained project creation failure that turns out to be an issue created by IE7 (maybe fixed in Beta 2? dunno). This also involves using regedit to fix.

# re: Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 (and more) Available

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:22 PM by Beerzie Boy
I'm going to download it as soon I finish installing today's XP service patch!

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# IE7 Beta 2 - my thoughts

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:53 PM by Paul Freeman-Powell
I've not had much chance to mess with the latest offering from the IE team (see http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/04/24/582546.aspx,..