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WILL THE PUBLIC BUG TRACKING GO OFFLINE?

If the plan is to kill it after IE8 goes RTM then I'm not submitting a darn thing.

WE WERE P*$$ED LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED!

Waiting on an [MSFT] official response before entering ANY bugs/issues.

Honestly, we're not sure yet what we'll do with the bug tracking after RTM. We want to make sure that any feedback channels we have that we keep alive are ones we can continue to respond to, so we'll see how well the system works before we decide. We've definitely heard the feedback that people want us to keep it alive.

Looks like the first beta of IE8 has just been announced . Download it here . There's a fact sheet too

Hey IE Team, I just installed IE8... very impressed so far! Just some observations:

1. Favorites Bar... when you hover over multiple folders on the favorites bar, you shouldn't have to click each folder to make them drop down... hovering should be sufficient if you've clicked on a folder already.

2. What is the "grayed out" effect of web addresses meant to serve?

3. When you use the "Add to Favorites" option within the Favorites menu, it would be more intuitive if it were like the "Pin to Start Menu" option rather than duplicating the folder.

4. Not sure if it was possible in IE7, but very awesome on changing the View for the History listing!

5. Love the "Activities" option and can't wait to see more!

6. WebSlices are a cool idea, so again I can't wait to see more!

7. Crash recovery seems to be working well too... I've had it crash twice, but always at times where I was mucking about with a lot of things at once.

8. Please give us a Download Manager!

9. NICE!!! at the bold RSS Feeds that are unread.

Performance does seem pretty decent so far, so I look forward to seeing the progression to the final product.

I'm sure I'll post more things as I continue to play.

I know it's policy to only release a few betas over a long period of time, but in the spirit of change, can we expect more betas more often? Like monthly?

GoodThings2Life,

Thanks! Re: web addresses, we'll blog more about that later too, but briefly, we highlight the domain name and dim everything else back to help users know where they are on the web. A common ploy for phishing attacks is to spoof the URL so it looks like a legit domain; this feature makes those kinds of attacks more difficult.

The release notes link does not work (redirects to http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=gp;[ln];kberror&style=error&errurl=%2fdefault.aspx%2fkb%2f949800 )

Thanks, Rag. We're checking on it now.

Wait... you want to say there's now TWO iexplore.exe's MIRRORING EACH OTHER?!

I thought even dirtiest malware stopped using tactic long time ago... 0_o

Just a few minor things I'd like to note...

Why does ctrl+l open a dialog box when the address bar is all that's needed?

The "second" menu bar on the tab bar wastes a lot of space I think. A help button when there's already a help menu, a 2nd Tools, which is ??almost redundant with the 1st... Speaking of which, why is it that the 1st menu bar doesn't have icons next to listed items but the 2nd one does?

Also, that new mail button, if it could be configured with webmail that'd be nice.

Thanks guys for keeping the progress up.

"Real browsers work on any platform" - adding W2K could help you to find obscure issues with seriously limited memory and bandwidth. Just an idea.

Nice beta, but I already found something:

The text selection tool is very buggy.

Examples:

If you select some text and drag the cursor over some whitespace the selection is inversed.

If you select some text with list elements (e.g the article on this page) the elements disappear (or is this a feature?)

Text selection is generally slowish and flickers.

Anyways, can't wait for the final

Just wanted to congratulate you guys on this beta release. Time to make a fine browser - together!

Keet it up!

~

Hi, I just fixed the link to the release notes. Thanks for letting us know.

Hi, I just fixed the link to the release notes. Thanks for letting us know.

Kay, text selection and editing are definitely works in progress in the new engine.

Great work guys, I'll bet you $100 that Mozilla rips the domain syntax coloring.

I like IE8 so far. Problems I noticed:

- PNG gamma correction / color correction is still not supported. As a result, png graphics display darker then they normally are. Simple test case: make a html page that displays color #123456 as the background, make a 100x100 png image of the same color, and put it on the webpage: the difference between the two should be clearly visible.

This has been an issue since IE6. Supporting all these web standards is awesome but a simple png file can break the graphics on your site because of incomplete support.

- memory usage. When closing a tab, IE8 does not release the RAM used by a tab. Or if it does, it doesn't do it properly. Eventually, after extended use, the process iexplore.exe racks up absurd amounts of memory usage.

This happened in IE7 as well, although it wasnt this extreme (got 110mb usage after 5-6 minutes of browsing - only checking 4chan, a few rss links and googling for acid2, closing the links thereafter only freed up a few megs from the 110).

- huge TABLEs. These loaded slowly in earlier IE versions, because they were only displayed once the whole table was downloaded in the source (it was a nag when loading 500k tables back on dialup). This still happens in IE8. Of course its not much of a problem given that I'm running a 10mbit cable connection, but, with IE8 these tables not just load slowly, but scroll and display with extreme cpu usage as well. This is very, very annoying.

A simple test case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers

John: ALT-D moves to the address bar like you want. In all the versions of IE I remember and in Firefox.

To the IE Team:

The other Acid2 site came back up, so when I attempted to test it with IE8 Beta 1, the face does render correctly, but highlighting the nose makes it turn blue. Is that supposed to happen or no?

I'm guessing this item installs over IE 7 and 6 ... and I just wanted to suggest that you give the users the option to install IE8 beta in a different directory from their current IE install.

Its important, because this is a no-risk strategy.

The user's current IE browser remains untouched and that gives users like me the confidence to take IE8 for a test drive, without worrying about the stress of uninstalling it and reinstalling IE-whatever if it doesn't run the way we like.

Very impressive guys. While IE7 was an OK release (I did like the streamlined UI), IE8 really looks promising already.

I noticed how Activities has been something you've guys developed for a long time. :)

http://labs.live.com/Entity+Extraction.aspx

And all the other latest goodies sound awesome too. But I'm still waiting to hear:

1. Skins support

2. Easier to make add-ons

3. Support for other OS's

4. Fancier looking zoom control (like Office 07')

5. Rendering on mobile devices (WinMo?)

6. Live "Tab" Thumbnails

7. Most of the goodies that's been available in IE7 Pro for a long time already.

8. Tabbing history.

9. Better inline search

10. View web page source code.

Still waiting. Keep up on the good work guys.

I have not been able to try IE8 because of an error being given one to two minutes after opening the application that says "Internet Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close..."

The issue is with the "tfswshx.dll" component which isn't even present on my computer, which runs on Windows XP SP2.

Urgent help would be appreciated and prefered.

Thanks in advance.

@sonicdoommario: Yes, the "blue" nose is a feature of the test.

@sonicdoommario: Yes, the "blue" nose is a feature of the test.

Hey IE team,seems that IE* has problems with 3 of my most frequently visited sites:

Neowin

http://www.neowin.net/

El tiempo

http://www.eltiempo.com/

and Facebook fo course

http://es.facebook.com/

Good luck fixing this,but i see that it's a width issue.

why IE8 doesn't turn to standarts mode when xml proglog + xhtml 1.1 ?

@doug

tfswshx.dll is not an IE component. It's most likely an add-on that's causing the problem. Try running Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Internet Explorer (No Add-ons) and see if you still encounter this issue.

The nose is supposed to turn blue on hover to pass the test.

Bugs:

1.) New Tab (stop telling me its a new tab!)

2.) Prompt dialog:

 a.) Not fixed (bug 109, bug 139)

 b.) Now triggers a security toolbar and returns null because the dialog was supressed.

3.) CSS overflow-y - yikes! what happened there!

4.) Checkbox bug (bug 132) still broken

5.) Still can't drag a link to a new tab properly

6.) Still no option to open *ALL* new tabs at the *END* of my tab bar

7.) WinXP chrome/theme issues on select lists

8.) JavaScript Console... well, not quite, but at least the content is VIEWABLE now!

9.) javascript: urls on about:Tabs work (yeah!), but still broken on about:blank, or when using CTRL+L (new location)

10.) Still hidden options in IE status bar

11.) PNG favicons render pink background where ALPHA 100% transparency should be

12.) Scolling with mouse wheel causes some page content to flicker/hide.

13.) window has new global object/method "XDomainRequest" (is this an X-Domain XMLHTTPRequest object?

14.) Ditto for "globalStorage" ? does this cross domains? or pages within a site?

15.) Hmmm, "sessionStorage" ? can you clarify the difference between 14/15?

16.) document.compatible ? what is this property?

17.) document.onstorage ?

18.) document.onstoragecommit ?

19.) document.documentMode = 5 ?

20.) window.maxConnectionsPer1_0Server: 6 ?

21.) window.maxConnectionsPerServer: 6 ?

22.) A Whole whack of new properties on a FORM:

ariaBusy:

ariaChecked:

ariaDisabled:

ariaExpanded:

ariaHaspopup:

ariaHidden:

ariaInvalid:

ariaLevel: 0

ariaMultiselect:

ariaPosinset: 0

ariaPressed:

ariaReadonly:

ariaRequired:

ariaSecret:

ariaSelected:

ariaSetsize: 0

ariaValuenow:

More details on these new properties/methods please.

- application/xhtml+xml still not accepted

- acid2 test works on http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html but not on http://acid2.acidtests.org/

(firefox 3 pass it on both)

What happend to the option to Open tabs when IE starts again when you go to close it with open tabs?

I loved that option in IE7, but it seems to be gone in IE8 now.  

@doug

That component is a Sonic BHO that is part of IE.  It might be an IE8 issue hosting an old control, which is why we beta.  http://www.justtext.com/processes-tasks/tfswshx-dll.html

Start | Control Panel | Internet Options | Programs | Manage Add-ons and disable that particular BHO.  

Restart IE and try it out.  Thanks.

AlexGL, the issue's been fixed. I disabled the add-on after getting IE8 started without any add-ons present, and it works fine.

Is there on easy way to switch the version targeting on website that IE8 break? I mean if you  don't have any control on the website.

I would like to see how much it can help. If there's no option in IE8 for thatr, how can I can do that with something like the Fiddler.

Looks good so far. Just curious. Are there any news regarding JavaScript events (e.g. addEventListener, capturing phase, domready, ...)? What's about things like getComputedStyle? HTML5 activeElement would also be great for web applications.

And yes, as mentioned somewhere above. PNG gamma correction is a must. Also in IE7, it was not possible to combine CSS filters e.g. grey() with PNG images. Same effects like using AlphaImageLoader in IE6 before. Any news on this?

Anything planned for the final?

Am I the only person interested in knowing why we can't write add-ons for Internet Explorer in .Net yet? It's 2008, I figured (incorrectly) that this would have been remedied years ago. Any target date/version for this ability?

Why is there a horizontal scrollbar on every single page I visit? That is really annoying. Also I tried out the meta switch at that works really slick. I will be using that on my site from now on until I can get the site working properly in IE8.

Oh also yahoo mail sniffs out the browser and rejects me from using IE8.....you might want to contact them, i mean they only have millions of users.

Just wondering where a Weather WebSlice is available at ... thank you.

Is side by side install available or will we have to go thru the Virtual PC process to run side by side installs. The beta of the "other" browser installs side by side without issue.

Would be great if tabs can be moved in "quick tabs" view...

I know it was never a supported control, and I know ASP.NET 2.0 replaces it with a better version, but many sites use the IE Web Controls (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms529254.aspx) it seems the TreeView control screws up IE8 royally. In fact, it isn't rendered at all, and it seems to clear almost all of the page content! Sorry, I really don't feel like using the newsgroups to report this. Please allow us to post bugs on the connect site!

At first review, compat with our products looks refreshingly free of significant issues. THANK you.

An update to Windows Update to recognise this beta would be useful.

@Marshall

aria-* properties are new properties that allow the author to provide accessibility information. More info at http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/aria.php

@Dinoboff:

If you want to do this on only one site

You can do this by use the IE Developer Tools.

Enable the developer tools by clocking on the button in the toolbar. Click on View->Change Compatability Mode and choose IE7 mode

In IE7 there was some weird behaviour with the cursor which would almost always display the text icon even where the cursor wasn't near any text, is that why the text cursor has been 'removed' in IE8?

Loving what I am seeing in IE8.  The favorites bar available in full screen mode - awesome thank you!!!!  I can finally use full screen mode!

Launching an entire folder from the favorites bar - again another request of mine making my life soooo much easier!

The new "blank tab" appearance -> Very nice, it actually has a finished look now.

Now I just have to figure out why Ctrl-Alt-Del's page doesn't render right so I can tell the right person the right thing.  Works fine in IE7 emulation mode tho (which is also a nice new feature)

I'm liking IE8...

I'm having problems with the positioning of background images on anchor elements. It worked previously in IE6, IE7, Firefox, Opera, and Safari. I'm at a loss. It has to be something different with IE8. I'm using a valid doctype as well.

I'm impressed with the direction you guys are going. Great work so far.

REQUEST: Can you include subdomains in the address bar highlighting? A lot of sites include the subdomain as part of the site's branding ( for example: del.icio.us, script.aculo.us... )

Seems to be some funky floating div handling at http://menshealthliving.com/ and http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/03/04

and the emulate IE7 button doesn't seem to force emulation here lol

You guys are awesome.  I surprised at how fast IE8 beta was released.

One feature that I had asked for when IE7 was released was the ability to middle click on the folders that are included in the Links toolbar and have them open in tabs.

You guys FINALLY added this and I thank you!

I've always been an IE fan and will continue to do so.

You guys are great!!!!!!!!!!!!

Woo Hoo!

Double Clicking in the address bar ACTUALLY WORKS NOW!

It correctly selects *JUST* that fragment!

Yahoo!

...but with compliments come complaints...

The developer tools still return (as does .innerHTML) DOM markup in horrible UPPERCASE Tag Soup with quoteless (and misssing) attributes!

I thought IE8 was the release where the DOM was finally fixed?!

Nice:

1. Startup time is good, even on a virtual machine.

2. The revamped addon manager features are nice, and performance on XP of the addon manager is also good.

3. More commands available on toolbar is nice.

4. Icons in search providers and in menus from toolbar buttons is awesome.

5. Delete browsing history box redesign (checkboxes instead of buttons) makes me wanna use IE more and more.

6. Developer tools are nice to begin with but still need to be as powerful as Firebug.

7. It's thrilling to see Acid2 being passed live.

Can be improved:

1. I hope that this being beta, some features are not implemented. I hope the 'Toggle emulation mode' button also stays and is not just during the testing phase.

2. Layout layout layout of the toolbars. Why can't MS offer the flexibility that IE6 provided in adjusting the position and layout of the toolbars?? What's the use of the lock and unlock functionality if users can't move the toolbars? Give us complete flexibility.

3. Increase the limit of the Temporary Internet Files cache to more than 1024 MB. Today's era demands it. Allow us to set it to a reasonable value around the size of a DVD (4-5 GB)

4. Is there some change made in the whole spacing between each and every UI element to make it a bit larger? If so, reduce it. Even when a new tab is opened, the font size there is also way too large.

5. Checking show large icons has no effect on the Favorites bar. Can you fix that?

6. On IE7 in XPSP2 at least, I use "Make available offline" by right clicking or properties. Hope this is not removed and replaced by RSS feeds.

7. Why not implement a resizable/adjustable search box?

8. A separator or more space between "Save as" and "Close" on the File menu would prevent users from accidentally clicking Close when saving. A keyboard shortcut for "Save as" too would be better.

9. Replace the cursor which appears when middle clicking and moving the mouse with a new smooth one, before you forget. Also the icon in the Properties of a web page. And the graphic on the Options tab in the Print dialog.

10. When closing IE when multiple tabs are open, where is the "Open these the next time" option? Hope it's not removed.

11. In the redesigned Page Setup dialog, I can't type a custom header/footer. Also include the editable text box.

12. Make the Save webpage dialog resizable.

13. The "Open new tab next to the current tab" option is gone! PLEASE BRING IT BACK!!

14. On XP, update the modem icon on the connections tab.

15. Document the settings on the Advanced tab in the Help file. Compiled HTML help can also use context sensitive help. If you dont want to use WinHelp, use CHM context sensitive help and add it to at least the advanced tab.

16. Do something to prevent Windows Explorer toolbars from getting listed in the IE toolbars list and vice versa.

17. Properly implement PNG gamma correction.

Wishlist:

1. Add support for embedded ICC V4 color profiles in images. Should be easier on Vista with Windows Color System.

2. Add HD Photo support.

3. Add a MIME type editor (what to do with a particular MIME type-Open/Save/Open with).

4. Even if a download manager is planned later, add the ability to group downloads in the single taskbar button.

5. Advanced JavaScript settings like preventing disabled context menus.

6. Add a password manager protected by the Content Advisor password or another master password.

7. Add a "Dont save now" option to the password saving dialog box or still better make IE check whether the logon was successful and only then save the password.

8. Show comprehensive page info in the properties of the page.

Please check http://color.org/version4html.xalter

Safari3Beta: Pass

Firefox3Beta3: When about:config gfx.color_management.enabled = true, Pass

IE8Beta1: Fail

...and...

Can I disale [7] tool button ?

Great job so far.  Thanks for really taking the time to listen to the community.

All my favorites do not work anymore. I can not use them and if i import them to another browser they are empty but i can see them in IE.

How can i uninstall the IE 8? How can i rescue my favorites????

HELP

Interesting, but there is nothing really within it to bring me away from firefox.  The main problem I have with IE is that I can not simply block ads.  You need an ad block extentision, but since microsoft makes so much money from advertisers I don't know if we will ever see one.  Also not impressed that there are things to make it easier to use face book, windows live, and yet, nothing for myspace.  I'll keep using firefox until IE includes in it such things as an ad block, flash block, and hey, how about even the ability to theme the ugly gui

Any chance of getting all betas as a virtual image a la the IE 6 image? I don't have a spare license running around and I'd hate to trash my IE7 to test IE8.

i'd like to see the text on the favorites button change to reflect the tab that's selected. so, if the feeds tab is selected, the button would show feeds, instead of always showing favorites.

Ooops, sorry. There appears to be one in the same place as the IE6 and IE7 images. For anyone else looking, it's at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=21EABB90-958F-4B64-B5F1-73D0A413C8EF&displaylang=en

It's a 438.6 MByte download with no bittorrent download :-)

How many people are in the "IE8 Technical Beta" program?

I checked out the site, and there are only 50 bugs entered so far.

There is definitely lots fixed in IE8 (more than I was expecting) but there are still several bugs  from IE7 and before not listed.

Your microsoft connect site is a poor excuse for a bug reporting tool.

I've got you a nice little reduced test case about input type="checkbox" onchange behaviour; but after 37 screens of bullshit, disclosure, and prising into my personal details, I have no will to participate.

Do it better.

Gmail "Send" and "Save now" button makes IE8 crash on Vista

Is there anyway to get rid of the "Emulate IE7" icon from the command bar?  Or at least move it to the opposite end of the menu so I can hide it?  All the other commands appear to be movable/removable, why isn't it?

Thanks.

http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/

"Your microsoft connect site is a poor excuse for a bug reporting tool."

If there is one thing MS are doing very very badly it is this... I respect the IE team for wanting to get this right but they have not learned the most important lesson from IE7.

Please IE team, get a decent bug reporting system up and running ASAP, this ms connect system is as useless as trying to keep track of bugs on a roll of toilet paper with a leaky pen in a hurricane.

There are plenty of "very good" open source options for tracking bugs, swallow your pride and do yourselves a favour, track bugs properly.

Apart from that its nice to get my hands on the browser, so far I can see CSS hasn't been fully implemented, I'd suggest this should be a priority before beta 2, there goes 50% of the bug reports right there.

@lithven, @ST: No, the "Emulate IE7" button cannot be removed or moved in IE7 Beta 1.  Configuration of this button will be added in future updates.

@Will Peavy: Stay tuned to the IEBlog for more info about why domain highlighting works the way it does.

@Neal: Yes, Yahoo is aware of their user-agent string issue, and they will address it.

@jessejacob: You've been able to write IE extensions in .NET since .NET 1.1/IE6 or earlier.  See http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/dev.asp for some sample links.

@Marshall: Check out http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288472(VS.85).aspx for more info on what's new in IE8 for developers.

Question:

Why is application/xhtml+xml *still* not accepted?

Why is SVG *still* not accepted?

One thing that bothers me are two CSS "errors" I've found that can affect a lot of websites.

The first one regardin negative margins and floats; the second and, I think, the most critical one, regarding links with display: block and parent divs.

Long story short: the first one (negative-margins) is something like: if you have two blocks floating besides each other, then a clearing div below them, but have one of the divs get a negative-margin greater than it's own width which makes it overlap above the other div, the clearing div ignores the div with the negative margin applied; but if the negative margin is less than it's own width, the footer div clears it properly.

The second one involves anchors with display: block on them. If you set an anchor to 100px width, 100px height, display: block and a border, then put the anchor inside a div, the area of the anchor that has no text nor border is NOT clickable... but if it's out of the div, it is. position: relative on either the container div or the anchor itself seems to fix this.

I've described and fixed both problems in my blog (http://metalize.liveonstyle.com/2008/03/06/errores-del-ie8-parte-2/) but it's something that should not happen to begin with (having to add position: relative to a link in order for it to be clickable is just unnecessary in my opinion).

You can see both problems here:

http://sausage.rolled.at/articles Negative Margin and float problem

http://metalize.liveonstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ie-error-links.html link problem showed (try to pass your mouse cursor over here: http://metalize.liveonstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/zona-error-link.gif )

http://metalize.liveonstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ie-error-links-fixed.html  link problem fixed

The domain highlighting doesn't work well on domains like:

http://www.oakham.rutland.sch.uk/

http://www.priorywoods.middlesbrough.sch.uk/

http://www.hitchams.suffolk.sch.uk/

...

In the first case, the part to be highlighted should be oakham.rutland.sch.uk.

All sch.uk domains are broken down in this way:

schoolname.region.sch.uk

Thanks!

Nick

Because version of the browser is checked, with IE8, application of the patch cannot be executed in the home page of Windows Update.

Please,fix.

LORP Bug: Literal Overflow Right Position Bug

I have posted this bug here so please vote!

https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=331776

This bug also exists in IE7 though after installing IE8 I am no longer able to use my IE 5.0/5.5 stand alones to confirm how far back this goes. Here is a minimal test case with an explanation...

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">

<head>

<title>LORP Bug: Literal Overflow Right Position Bug: Test Case by John Bilicki III</title>

<style type="text/css">

#body {

background-color: #000;

border: #fff solid 1px;

bottom: 4px;

left: 4px;

overflow: auto;

padding:  0px;

position: absolute;

right: 4px;

top: 4px;

z-index: 1;

}

#child_bug {

background-color: #222;

border: #777 solid 1px;

height: 20px;

position: absolute;

right: 22px;

text-align: center;

top: 22px;

width: 200px;

z-index: 2;

}

#parent_bug {

background-color: #222;

border: #777 solid 1px;

height: 20px;

position: absolute;

right: 12px;

text-align: center;

top: 12px;

width: 200px;

z-index: 2;

}

.block {

display: block;

}

body, html {

background-color: #000;

color: #a7a68f;

overflow: hidden;

}

h1 {

font-size: 18px;

}

</style>

</head>

<body>

<div id="body">

<div>

<h1>LORP Bug: Literal Overflow Right Position Bug: Test Case by John Bilicki III</h1>

<p>Elements positioned from the right side are X pixels short of being correctly positioned, X being whatever the width of the scrollbar is.

The top right element should have 22px of space between it and the scrollbar which would be the exact same amount of space between it and the border of it's parent element.</p>

<div style="height: 2200px;"></div>

</div>

<div id="child_bug"><a href="#">IE8-B1 12-Right Child</a></div>

</div><!-- /#body -->

<div id="parent_bug"><a href="#">IE8-B1 12-Right Parent</a></div>

</body>

</html>

It seems that getting the location of a DOM element does not work (at least the ASP.NET Ajax code):

http://www.asp.net/AJAX/AjaxControlToolkit/Samples/AutoComplete/AutoComplete.aspx

We want trying to be able to set the setting of the operational mode of IE, per the TAB window. When opening many TAB windows, because it restarts in order to change to the mode of IE7, it is inconvenient.

I got problem with many web pages like google maps or similar mapy.cz - i believe this problem is because theese pages thing that I have stupid old IE rendering so when I switch to IE7 mode it works OK as they got this hacked. The problem is, that this switching need restarting of IE, and this is the reason why i cannot use it as most of the webs are in IE8 mode problematic, and i'm not going to support IE 7 mode.

I wondered how to solve it, it will not be easy, but i would prefer to change the user agent info (and other common ways of browser detection), so it will mask as other browser, so that it can fully show its compatibility with standards without beeing afected by that ones who use e.g. conditional comments for IE => 7

Windows XP x64 SP2: The first level drop down menues (like page and tools) don't show any text. The IE7 emulation does not seem to work... Why no uninstall?

Bring the "Open these the next time" option back when closeing IE8 with tabs open PLEASE!!!  I always had 7-8 tabs open in IE7 when for some reason i'd have to close it.  That option helps ALOT!  And now in IE8b1 I can't see it and it seems like it's gone, why?

Eli said: "Great work guys, I'll bet you $100 that Mozilla rips the domain syntax coloring."

On the contrary, Firefox 3 had this feature during the alphas (last year) but it was removed shortly after. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388135#c40

Hi there! Awesome work you've done.

I found some strange CSS problem:

1. using together the writing-mode: tb-rl; and overflow: auto; properties make the content disappear.

2. in some cases the header counter breaks. I found that this problem is comes up when the :before and :after is set on an other element and placed somewhere after the first <h1> element.

CSS:

h1 { counter-increment: chapter; counter-reset: section -1; }

h2 {counter-increment: section;}

h1:before {content: "Chapter " counter(chapter) ". ";}

h2:before {content: "Section " counter(chapter) "." counter(section) " ";}

span:before, span:after{content:'"';}

Cases:

a) this works well:

<span>Lorem ipsum</span>

<h1>First Chapter</h1>

<h1>Second Chapter</h1>

<h2>First Section of Second Chapter</h2>

<h2>Second Section of Second Chapter</h2>

<h1>Third Chapter</h1>

<h2>First Section of Third Chapter</h2>

b) counter breaks after first:

<h1>First Chapter</h1>

<span>Lorem ipsum</span>

<h1>Second Chapter</h1>

<h2>First Section of Second Chapter</h2>

<h2>Second Section of Second Chapter</h2>

<h1>Third Chapter</h1>

<h2>First Section of Third Chapter</h2>

c) counter breaks after second:

<h1>First Chapter</h1>

<h1>Second Chapter</h1>

<span>Lorem ipsum</span>

<h2>First Section of Second Chapter</h2>

<h2>Second Section of Second Chapter</h2>

<h1>Third Chapter</h1>

<h2>First Section of Third Chapter</h2>

d) etc... :)

e) Without the span:before, span:after{content:'"';} css property, all cases pass.

f) If we use this <span> before we start counting, the counter won't breaks even if we place another <span> after the first <h1> element. So this works well:

<span>Lorem ipsum</span>

<h1>First Chapter</h1>

<h1>Second Chapter</h1>

<span>Lorem ipsum</span>

<h2>First Section of Second Chapter</h2>

<h2>Second Section of Second Chapter</h2>

<h1>Third Chapter</h1>

<h2>First Section of Third Chapter</h2>

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wishlist:

- support <q> element :)

- support type="application/x-javascript"

- support border-radius, column-count, column-width, column-gap please please please!

Atta boys and girls!

Negative:

- Those dashed border lines around clicked href's which firefox has and we all hate them. They are also off in some links, like there is minus offset to the actual link.

- Text selection is somehow buggy, and get's inverted for no reason.

- Weird behaviour with floating div's, refreshing results in different positioning.

Positive:

- Well havent used it enough yet to find anything positive :)

Seems a bit scary how many websites are buggy with IE8, designers will have their work cut out for them! :)

I can't view any webpage after install ie8 ...

Very impressed with the beta - thanks!

My request:

Allow selected aspects of browsing hisory to be deleted when the browser closes. Firefox allows all cookies to be accepted, then deletes them on exit. For me, and I dare say most others, this is ideal. It allows privacy without breaking certain sites.

Unfortunately I have not enough time to thank you for the great work in increasing compatibility to web standards :) so I just go on with my request:

Please, *please* fix that odd behavior that the universal selector "*" matches on DOCTYPE and comments. The "*+html"-hack MUST NOT apply to IE 8!

'Always use ClearType for HTML' says you need to restart Internet Explorer. This is no longer needed I noticed.

Having to restart a system on a browser installation is wrong, totally wrong...

With sp3 bld. 3300 installed there are permanent problems. So I uninstalled IE 8 again.

Unfortunately...I could not even get IE8 to open fully without "IE8 has stopped working" error message...

Please, fix that. It's probably one of the most important issues, at least for me.

Most of the DOCTYPEs give a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom, even when it it is not needed.  

When a new tab is opened:

The Address shows "about:Tabs".

a.) This Looks Dumb

b.) It isn't pre-selected, so when you type, you end up prefixing it rather than replacing it - Bug!

c.) "You've opened a new tab" in 500% size font is *NOT* required, and after the very first time seeing this, is INSULTING.  We've been opening new tabs for years! (well, in other browsers at least)

Thanks.

What exactly triggers (e.g. where is the list) the fallback to Quirks mode from Standards in IE8?

I have a site, that rendered just fine in standards mode in IE7, that now triggers Quirks.

a.) It has a valid Doctype

b.) The HTML markup is well-formed (XSL generated)

c.) No references to document.all or other legacy IE-only JS

This is rather frustration because the rest of the site works fine, it is just 1 or 2 pages that fail.

Thanks.

In IE8, clicking the favorites star crashes the program.  I tried doing a system restore to a point before installation and IE7 will not work.  This is with XP

have been using it for a day now and our site http://www.thomasnet.com does not render correctly I know for sure.  Other than a slew of sites not displaying properly, no major problems as of yet

Can't wait for you to re-enable the "Open these tabs next time I load Internet Explorer" feature.  

Also, along with this feature, Opera does an excellent job with this.  When you open up Opera again, not only do you get all of your previous tabs, but you also still retain the history from your last browser session.  You can hit the back button and go to a previously viewed page from the last time you used Opera.  Brilliant!

The Windows Update site does not recognize this IE8 beta.

@Jeff: Did you try starting IE8 without addons?  http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/troubleshoot.asp

In particular, see if you have an add-on called "DriveLetterAccess" enabled.

@Stanley, do you have the URL?  Or can you send us a capture (www.fiddlercap.com)?

@Nick Lowe: Stay tuned to the IEBlog for more information about why domain highlighting behaves this way.

For the favorites bar, I believe it would be better to separate the favorites drop down and add to favorites icons/buttons onto another section of the page.  I personally like it where it's at right now in IE7.

I use the favorites toolbar profusely each and every day and the more real estate I can have, the better.

Also, there is a weird problem with IE8 and Outlook Express 6.

I change the actual default read and compose fonts from Arial to Verdana, size 9 or "smaller."

In doing so, with IE7, every message via the newsgroups that comes through is displayed in the font Verdana, size 9.

Upon installing IE8, immediately I see changes in the font that is displayed within Outlook Express 6.

It is no longer Verdana.  It overrides my own setting and changes the font to Times New Roman, size 12.

I have many more bugs.  I am asking to be put into the technical beta so I can submit some of these valid bugs that I am finding.

Please consider me!

@John: Yes, WindowsUpdate is updating their site to support IE8.  For now, click the Emulate IE7 Button, restart all IE windows, and visit WU.  Sorry for the inconvenience.

I have some "autocomplete" like widgets that float a DIV absolutely above a page. This still works in IE8B1, but when I mouseover the DIV, the onmouseover event is triggered on TEXTAREA elements underneath my floating DIV (with 100% opacity, background-color: #ffffff;)

Note, it does not happen on INPUT type="text" elements that lie under the DIV (even though they have the same onmouseover event handlers applied.

I should also note, that it only occurs where whitespace around the nodes in the DIV occur.  Thus links, and spans of text in the DIV will not trigger the event, but in the whitespace (margin) between elements it does trigger the event.

I wonder if the fix for Bug 229:

http://webbugtrack.blogspot.com/2008/02/bug-229-not-everything-is-absolute-in.html

Accidentally exposed (e.g. propagated) additional events to the underlying elements.

PS I would file a proper bug report on Connect and all that, but I have yet to be granted permission to submit bugs.

TIA

Please, please do something to prevent IE to crash!

I use IE7 on Windows 2003 and IE6 on Windows 2000. They get crashed once a while on some web pages. Yesterday, a page even crashed Windows 2003. Could you do somthing to prevent this happen? Why can IE display an error message when something goes wrong instead of crashing itself?

I did a search in Google. I found that Javascript code is the cause in many cases and that Flash is another one. Now Microsoft is pushing very hard on AJAX which reply heavily on Javascript. We plan to implement AJAX .Net soon. Now I need to think about it again. I don't want our websites crash users' browsers.

Please do something!

Thank you

Bob

When you select some text in a webpage, the green arrow for Activities appears. Well, it does so in some webpages.

What makes the arrow appear/disappear?

- Correction on that bug report... it does happen on INPUT type="text" elements too, it is just a bit harder to trigger.

Humm well nice try

but as i was moving towards IE7 for better memory handling then FF2 u guys just messed it up

105 MB fro 5 tabs

and whats the story abt 2 iexplorer.exe

also y cant we move aroung all the toolbars and explorer bars as we like, its lots of space waisting, i guess the ability to arrange everhtign in one line and even pick and chosse what someones preference is will be good

What will be the result if i kill the shadow iexplorer.exe(the on which has less memory)

And please please please make the search(ctrl+f) an in line feature,

why in the world u need a popup and even F3 does not work to find next

will use it more over the week end to see what else is in store but u allready got a big list of issues to work on:) as i read thru this page

Thanks

sandy

Rather than limit new bug-reports and feature requests to a select few individuals, why not at *accepts* reports from other individuals, and make those available either to everyone or to the invited testers to make use of/rate?

Has anyone checked the rendering with right-to-left sites?

IE8 standards mode completely fails to render right-to-left sites. Right alignment sometimes ignored, positioned elements do not appear where they should, floats disappear, etc.... Some text shows squares although the encoding is correct. I use XHTML 1.0 Transitional and IE8 VPC image.

Does not render page just the back ground

http://wiki.ie7pro.com/index.php/Main_Page

Most of the forums on the internet that I visit regularly --- whenever I scrow using the mouse's scrow wheel and my arrow touches a live link, IE8 Beta 1 will automatically goes to the top of the webpage.

First of all, congrats.

IE8 Beta 1 got a serious problems with Arabic text while it doesn't seems to be rendering CSS direction: rtl; at all. i am working on new Arabic/English site and english version is excellent on IE8. are still working on this?

and by the way your Problems report tool is't working with me.

http://www.aelsharif.com/ (test domain)