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I've been monitoring the download center page since late August and I must say THANK YOU for making the beta available in localized versions.

Two weeks is still slower than open source localized releases, but certainly an improvement for Microsoft.

Maybe this is not the right place to post it, but I would like to ask if W3C document.implementation.createDocument() , DOMParser() and other API's wille be implemented in IE8 ?

Please please please please please don't release this version prematurely. This version of IE as I've tested it is not standards savvy yet even in compatibility mode and seems to error tons on pages that all standards compatible browsers I've tested work fine on. Safari, Opera, and Firefox are my main testbed with IE under VM being the last thing I develop for. It adds so much development time and frustration to debug for 2 different versions of IE that wont behave correctly. What I've noticed is when I test in IE8 (just downloaded it on a clean VM) both compatibility mode on and off render in two completely different ways from even standards or older versions of IE which is essentially adding TWO new browsers to test for in addition to IE6 and IE7.

I don't know how you get people away from IE6 which is at this point absolutely dreadful to code for, but it's holding strong at 30-40% market share on most sites. The day it dies the web will cheer. Secondly, since MS wont buy a standards compliant browser company for a standards compliant engine *cough*opera*cough*, can it please support the same standards across the board that the rest do BEFORE The next release? I appreciate the effort to work towards standards compliance in IE8 for the betterment of the web overall, but if it's to the detriment of my productivity to push another unfinished release which I largely regard IE7 as, I'd just assume not have the browser live at all. I see the ads for adopting IE8 beta 2 and it's scary

  HI I JUST DOWNLOAD IE8 BETA 2 ITS HAS SOME LITTLE PROBLEM.WHEN I START TO GO TO WINDOWS UPDATE ON IE8 ITS START TO HAVE FUZZY WHITE LINE AT THE TOP OF WINDOWS UPDATE PAGE PLEASE CORRECT THIS PROBLEM THANKS

Can you guys make the scroll mouse wheels to work in smart address bar. I expand the favorite and can't use the scroll wheels to scroll down

Why is your list of languages a table?

Does Microsoft know nothing beyond tables for layout?

Your three Chinese dialects are  a single language even if they represent different versions. Same goes for Portuguese. Hence, you have announced 18 new languages.

You're going to have to explain your math there, Joe.

Microsoft would never switch to another much much better standards compliant engine, Trident is embedded everywhere in Microsoft products and will break everything, product of bad design and bad engineering from the days when they wanted to crush Netscape through embrace, extend, extinguish and illegal means now comes back to haunt them. Karma sure is a pain, isn't it?

Microsoft also doesn't care about standards compliance, look at their websites like microsoft.com, msdn.com, live.com etc. All of them use the EmulateIE7 meta tag to force IE8 into IE7 mode. Again, bad design and bad engineering decisions during IE7's development makes things even worse now and karma is biting them in the rear which they so deserve.

Evangelism you contradict yourself,in the last part.

...в том числе появилась поддержка русского.

What about Russian version for Vista x64?

Can anybody post here link for it ?

I have some friends at indonet.id that are eagerly awaiting the Indonesian version.

Is there a difinitive list of Languages that the PRC will be available in.

Well, I know you probably can't answer that question...

Lets re-phrase that...

Are you planning to support additional languages in the public release.

Note that the "Portuguese (Portugal)" link is broken.

I downloaded the IE 8 Beta 2 yesterday onto my perfectly fine notebook and since then have been having a whole load of problems resulting in my system ultimately collapsing. I dont know what is the problem with this IE, but sure advice all to stay away for now from IE 8.

Eran: shameless cybersquatting. :|

Doubt anyone will care.

Why IE8 use 50% of CPU when I use other application, but IE is maximized?

So how about also supporting ieaddons.com for multiple languages. Now only English, German and Chinese are supported. However I would like a Dutch version as well, since many Dutch IE users don't care about the NY Times.

could you guys add icons in section header and website.

A bug with the accelerators, this one relates to the 'Map with ...' providers.

Select any text and click the accelerator for Map with Google maps. The url now opens, but the URL bar remains in edit mode. This means I can not zoom in or out on the map using my scrollwheel.

The go to webslice arrow button on a webslice should open the webslice in a new tab, not steal the current one!

I have Beta 2 installed (english) but I noticed that when I scroll down with the mouse wheel, then scroll back up.. IE leaves lots of artifacts on the screen.. (e.g. extra copies of textareas, buttons, hrs etc.)

Is this a known bug or does this need to be registered somewhere?

The French link is broken.

@clark : I've the same artifact problem.

3 weeks on, IE 8 Beta 2 is now available in an additional 21 languages, bringing the total to 25. As a comparison, as far as I can tell that's only one fewer than IE 5.5 and 6 were released in, ever. Another sample Microsoft beta, that for Windows Server

Im having problems downloading the new version. I keep getting a messege the its not a valid WIN32 Application. Can anyone tell me what to do?

OMG

More css hacks we'll write!

Ie's ugly!

@Anonymous ("You're going to have to explain your math there, Joe.")

Well, I'm not Joe but I can explain it anyway.

As already mentioned, there are three "extra" languages in the list (two Chinese and one Portuguese) that are actually just different versions of the same language.

21 new languages - 3 duplicates = 18 new languages.

I can't install the French version on Windows XP MUI :( (MUI or whatever the multilanguage XP is called, I don't remember)

Hi, I have just installed ie8 beta 2, but I still have a small problem.

When I go into the website: http://www.apple.com/mac/ is ie8 slow to run applescript.

The same was ie7. Firefox and chrome is super fast. Therefore, it should be possible to get ie8 to run the same speed?

In addition, I ie8 beta 2 is really good

Sincerely yours

I have found out ie8 beta 2 has problems to display images in a different frame when clicking through a link on a flash picture scroll module. The image in the second frame which is a jpeg is not shown. It worked in ie7 and in the other browsers

I don't understand the correlation between the X and Y axes of your TABLE element. The one with the languages in it. to me it looks more like an unordered list (but of course, if it was one of those, you'd have used a UL, wouldn't you?).

You STILL Don't Get "Full Screen"/Auto-Hide, Do You!

Here's a Hint: Restore "Full Screen"/Auto-Hide To IE6 Functionality...

IE8 fails the A List Apart Holy Grails 3 columns via CSS method that all browsers including IE6 and IE7 pass with some hacks.  Examples are:

http://www.alistapart.com/d/holygrail/example_3.html

and

http://www.alistapart.com/d/holygrail/example_4.html

See article for explanation:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail

I'm gonna vent. I just spent an afternoon trying to make IE (6, 7, 8) do something as STUPID as selecting a value in a limited choice list with Javascript.

The problem is thus: I want to use the status of a checkbox to influence the content of text fields. No biggie, I put an event listener on the checkbox. I also want all this stuff to be reflected in the URL upon submit, through the GET method. Easy enough. I need the checkbox to be checked by default. Child's play. However, in case of submit, I have a problem: if the box is unchecked, the element doesn't have a value (that's ok) but is not even cited (that's no good) forcing me to check that there are other parameters in the URL to see if the form has been submitted - not clean - in order to be sure the checkbox doesn't re-check itself (with selected="selected" in HTML). That's the case with all browsers.

So, OK, a checkbox ain't the best solution. What's next? Radio buttons! Strangely, they work the first time I click them but not the second time; probably something I didn't get about them, but oh, well. they don't look good anyway, and can't be treated as a single object (no single ID). Exit radio buttons.

So, I use a select; with 2 options, it should be OK, right? I start making it, I use mySelect.option[0|1].selected=true according to context, it works beautifully under Firefox, Opera etc.

IE removes box's content. IE doesn't support "selected" in option properties (dixit IE8's debugger).

Not deterred, I switch to using mySelect.selectedIndex=0|1; Firefox purrs along.

IE removes box's content. "selectedIndex" is read only (dixit IE8's debugger).

Getting annoyed, I switch to using

mySelect.value = "option1"|"option2" ; Firefox keeps purring.

IE removes box's content. IE can't match option values to select.value content, "value" is read only (dixit IE8's debugger).

I look around. It seems that the ONLY way one can modify what a SELECT shows, is by rewriting said SELECT (in its entirety) with innerHTML (dixit MSDN).

Nevermind that I then need to remove the event listener, if I don't want a memory leak, recreate the control, and re-add the event listener.

Nevermind that this basically prevents me from inserting the select in a table (dixit MSDN).

Nevermind that I then get a huge slab of code where one single line should work.

I'm pissed. Really, I'm PISSED! It took me the whole afternoon to have IE deal with a CHECKBOX defaulting to CHECKED, after a SUBMIT, with Javascript.

I chose another way: I defaulted the checkbox to unchecked, and reversed all my code. Nevermind that I really wanted to have it checked for visual and semantic reasons.

I tested the above under IE 6, 7 and 8b2.

IE 8's CSS 2.1 support has improved, no doubt about that. The debugger is a bit rougher than Firebug, but close enough (it's a bit buggy too: check your own checkboxes...), which is still miles above, well, none. There's still one little problem.

IE's DOM support still sucks.

There. Done venting. Move along.

I think IE8 is a big improvement on the previous version, but there's still something left that I'd really like: an INTEGRATED DOWNLOAD MANAGER. In 2008 it's not possible I can't pause/resume my downloads.

Is this feature in your upcoming plans?

Thanks.

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And the download manager ???????????????????????? :D

25 languages that's impressive, yet you still can't customize the UI like you could in IE6, So basically the UI sucks in 25 Languages.  I don't like the ribbon but at least that is revolutionary.  the UI in 8 is the same in 7 wow I can make the search bar bigger, and Microsoft payed how much to come up with this UI. IE 8 "Living with Walls"  

@IE8 Living with Walls : yeah, but your walls have Windows... :-)

It use to have windows, now it has Vista...:-(

While we're on the topic of bug catching, and I know it is out of context, the checkbox "show all properties" in the developer tool/debugger is buggy: if you check it for a selected object it will display all the object's properties, but if you change your selection the checkbox stays checked, the new object displays only read/write properties and you need to un-check the checkbox then check it again to have it work. So,

- either read the checkbox's state on loading a new selection

- reset the checkbox on selection change.

...and better DOM support would be cool. But then I'd rant some more so I'll stop now.

Hi, my name is Jatinder Mann and I work on the Internet Explorer Administration Kit (IEAK) and Group

Romanian ?

I don't want to be mean, but... I often read stupid articles about many brilliant Romanians working in Microsoft; was is so difficult to ask one of them to translate some strings ?

Just curious...

Hi,

I have a problem with IE8 Beta 2 and Norton Internet Security, once I open IE the phishing filter in NIS becomes At Risk!

Using IE7 or Firefox causes NO problems with NIS, please advise.

Ayham

ayhamov@windowslive.com

Ayham: IE8 includes phishing protection via the SmartScreen Filter feature. Unfortunately, you'll need to contact Norton to get more information about why their phishing filter feature is inactive in IE8.

Dear IE Team,

are there any considerations of bundling an up-to-date version of Uniscribe with IE8? This would be a big advantage for example for various indic languages and should give IE8 a significant boost in some areas of India and elsewhere.

I think some earlier version of IE had already brought an updated version of uniscribe into the system and Office 2003 seems to install an updated, private copy of the USP dll. It would be really, really great if IE8 could also bring at least its own, updated version of uniscribe.

Especially with all the revitalized discussion about web fonts and so on it would be just *great* if you could do this.

Best Regards

Christian

Dear IE-team

I have tried to change from the english to the danish version of IE8 beta 2, and got downgraded to IE7. And now I can't install/upgrade to IE8 beta. How do I fix that?

Please, can you make a Finnish version of Internet Explorer 8 Beta for 64-bit Windows Vista? I only found a 32-bit IE8 Beta 2 for Finnish Vista.

Please, please.

Hi.

Sort of off topic:

The "domain highlighting" feature of IE8, is using a color that is too difficult to see - in my opinion.

I think you should make it a bit darker, so the rest of the URL is easier to read and parse for the human eye.

Thanks,

Anders

Hi All, Back in June , James Pratt and Jane Maliouta alluded to IEAK improvements for IE8. Today, I will

Microsoft heeft dinsdag de Nederlandstalige versie van de tweede bèta van Internet Explorer 8 vrijgegeven