IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Steve Wiseman — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:20:59 GMT

Does anyone know if the same registry key works for disabling the automatic deployment of IE7 on the localized versions? We a have a free utility that enables, or disables for the user and want to make sure it works on these versions of IE.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

John Farrar — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:25:09 GMT

I agree not to force users to install a new version of the browser. It feels misleading though when it appears as a "priority" or "urgent" update. Users will fear not updating. IE7 is a great work with only ECMA 4 compliant scripting missing. Congradulations ona work that leaves me with only two issues. Considering all IE7 does you have done an amazing job!

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

hmmm — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:26:11 GMT

hmmm...ie7...open a couple embeded movies in 2 tabs...and it crashes after a few seconds(ram changed twice)...

open a new internet explorer process or maybe even 3...it runs them without a problem.

when is that getting fixed

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

MikeWalshHelsinki — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:38:23 GMT

The problem as I see it is with it being defined as a Critical Install.

It isn't and shouldn't be marked as such.

Normal users will install critical updates even if they don't need to and it may be risky for them.

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As an example of the "risk" aspect, I have in fact a problem that I didn't have with the Betas. Often when I startup IE7 (with a pre-set 6 tabs including one that requires authentication) it starts loading the first tab (which is displayed) but then the IE process zooms up to 100% usage and stays there (and all the tabs are showing "Connecting To" and clicking anywhere gives beeps).

Delete the process and re-start and it loads OK.

re: IE 7 pictures are blocked.

mith. — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:40:24 GMT

i have a problem seeing some pictures since i have downloaded IE 7. some pictures are blocked with a X on top corner. clicked 'show picture' but nothing happens. is there a way to fix it? please.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

David Wrixon — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:56:05 GMT

I just don't buy these lame excuses for not releasing the Far East Languages.

If Japan has a de-centralised IT structure then decision can be made at a local level. This means that some people will update and others won't. If they don't have centralised control, then there is unlikely to consistency of approach anyway.

Installing blockers through-out a large organisation like this is trivial. Windows allows you to remotely install this. The blocker can also be distributed throughout the organisation by email.

Basically, what you are saying is that it is High Priority for those that and Low Priority for those that don't. As you never even provided basic navigation funtionality for Japanese or Chinese in IE6, it was clearly much more important to these languages than English. Not only have you not provided it on AU, but you have not publicly explained the significance of the upgrade properly, prefering to rattle on about a lot of trivia.

So are we now about to get confirmation that China is also has a lot less Centralised Control than America? Or are you going to be even more imaginative in your excuses this time?

The bottom line is you are prioritising those countries where Firefox is perceived as the greatest threat. It is also abutdantly clear that the US Government regards control of the Internet as key to its trade policy. We in Britain, however, resent the common American practice of charging us the same in pounds as Americans pay in dollars for electronic downloads. It is bad enough when such discrimination relates to physical product, but when you are charged much more for something that is downloaded on the the basis of geographical location, all the US arguments about freedom on the Internet are clealy propoganda with no basis in fact!

Frankly, it would severe you right if they all just get hold of a cracked version of Vista.

... And the localised British English version?...

Fraser Pearce — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:57:30 GMT

Where's the British English version?

Surely you aren't presuming that an entire nation is content with putting up with the incorrect localised version, with its inherent spelling issues?

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Mark McNally — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:13:42 GMT

Since the release of IE7 I have made several attempts to install it onto my home computer, several BSOD's and one system restore later I am still unable to install it. The log keeps telling that it is unable to install to write to a particular reg key, I have checkde the permissions there and am also logged in as an administrator, I have disabed my anti-spyware, including Windows Defender, as well my anti-virus(AVG) and also my firewall (Zone-alarm), but still no joy..........

And here here to Fraser Pearce, it's bad enough many can't spell properly as it is without you encouraging them

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Clare Smyl — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:46:09 GMT

PLEASE FIX THE SCROLLING!!!!!!!!

Just installed IE7 and have jerky scrolling on every webpage - THIS IS HIGHLY IRRITATING.

re: Great News for IDN Community!!!

William Tan — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:20:30 GMT

This is a piece of excellent news for the Internationalized Domain Names (IDN) community.

Already there are thousands of multilingual domain names in use today, some by very high profile companies.

Check out http://IDNSearch.NET/ for a showcase of real life IDN examples.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Sandi — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:51:35 GMT

Mark McNally

Experience has shown us that you have to *uninstall* ZoneAlarm, not just disable it.

IE7 is already too buggy to normal users

Erwin Ried — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:10:37 GMT

Too registry problems, toolbar & plugin incompatibilities, Outlook & Office problems, desktop icons problems, just see this:

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?pg=1&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general&fltr=

By the way IE7 is far away better than IE6, near the hanging FF2... and its working very well for me.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

hAl — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:14:46 GMT

@Mark McNally

With Zonealarm on your computer anything can happen !!

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

luc — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:07:28 GMT

English

1-Nov-06

German, French, Spanish, Finnish, Brazilian Portuguese, Arabic

15-Nov-06

Italian, Dutch, Russian, Sweden, Danish, Norwegian, Polish, Hebrew

1-Jan-07

Turkish, Portuguese, Czech, Hungarian, ELL

22-Jan-07

Japanese, Korean, Simplified and Traditional Chinese

Calendar Year Q2 2007

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

vista — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:09:47 GMT

Why is it, that with some add-ins installed (e.g. the Quero toolbar) buttons in the IE7 interface that were messed up by the length bug (rendering goes all whack) are fixed!!??

If the fix is so simple, that an add-in, can fix this by accident, why can't MS fix this ASAP?

If nothing else, if you fix it in the chrome of the browser, the rendering bug (of the same) on web pages, at least *looks* like it might not be MS's fault.

...and if this fix (to the chrome), can also fix the HTML issue, that would be awesome.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Mark McNally — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:21:47 GMT

But I don't wanna have to uninstall :-(, lol.

Too many windows?

Ron — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:36:26 GMT

Is anybody seeing a problem with having too many windows open? When I have several windows open, IE7 will refuse to open a new window, right click is disabled, etc. Once i clse a window, I can open a new one, but it seems to get smaller and smaller. For example, have 8 windows open, try to open the 9th, can't do it...close a couple of windows, and it works again. Then in a few minutes I can't open the 8th window...then the 7th...then the 6th. It's very annoying and I can't find anything written about it anywhere. Thoughts? Only started to happen on install of ie7, and is happening on two computers.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Aedrin — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:41:03 GMT

"Frankly, it would severe you right if they all just get hold of a cracked version of Vista."

You seriously think companies will install an illegal version of Vista and risk their entire business? Right...

They already told you that the customers they refer to are decentralized, as in you can't install something remotely.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Gary Strait — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:58:50 GMT

Installed IE7 on home PC with no problems. Installed on work PC and IE7 will only display security warnings. When I try to go any sites IE crashes. Using XP. Anybody have thoughts?

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

AC — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:40:22 GMT

@Fraser Pearce

"Surely you aren't presuming that an entire nation is content with putting up with the incorrect localised version, with its inherent spelling issues?"

They aren't. That's why the British version wasn't.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Lothar Schlesier — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:04:44 GMT

I don't know if this problem has been posted already somethere ...

IE ignores position definitions for anchors in a website. See:

http://blog.divnull.net/2006-11-14/internet-explorer-7-css-problem/

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Fiery Kitsune — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:12:36 GMT

IETeam, how do you respond to the "styleVista" hack for Windows XP's IE7?

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

E Queen — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:24:09 GMT

What is wrong with 7? All day long I have gotten call after call that no one can use their company web sites.

PDF files wont open, images wont display

forms wont accept data.

I am forced to issue a mutli company

memo to turn off auto updates until

this buggy version is corrected.

Why do you continue to deliver things

that do not function correctly with

the capital you have?

What is R&D doing out there folks?

These web sites are not coded wrong either.

Thank you - EQ

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Aedrin — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:09:06 GMT

"These web sites are not coded wrong either."

That's a bold statement.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Lord of Shadows — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:33:07 GMT

Finally updated to internet explorer 7.0 today and just noticed that the 32 bit version is default on the desktop again! I was relieved when I saw the beta version installed the 64 bit version as default for the desktop. Is macromedia's flash that strong of a player?

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Alan Sanderson — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:52:45 GMT

I installed me7 on nov.12 and have not been able to print as printer spooler service is not running. In fact my printer is no longer on the printer faxes folder Have tried to restart this through Computer manager without success. I've since removed me7 and also am unable to use restore as all points previous to nov12 are not there . Great upgrade!!!

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Adam — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:45:41 GMT

My wife was tricked into downloading this so called upgrade. IE 7 is horrible. Now I have to go through the trouble of removing it and adding IE 6 back. I'm considering a switch to NetScape or another browser. That's how much I've hated my first day with this lousy product.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

hAl — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:38:08 GMT

I suspect you will get hundreds more angry people over the AU of IE7.

There must be tons of add-ins that wreck havoc with IE7 but probably also a ton of spyware programs and other malware that people are unaware that are running on their computers.

The fact that so much people complain one installations of IE7 shows that many of those issues suurounding 3rd party software or malware aren't solved properly yet.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

TMaster — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:40:05 GMT

I'm saddened so many people are seeing issues. Sure, I have had issues during the betas, but nothing as severe as people here seem to be experiencing.

Adam, if I were you, I'd try customizing IE first, you might be able to change it so that you'll like it better (disabling tabbed browsing?)

Ron, I've seen your issue in IE6, but only when I was *very* low on available memory - could this be an issue? Perhaps increasing the size of your pagefile would help?

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Out of sheer curiosity, in what way are automatic updates going to affect me? I'm using a Dutch version of XPSP2, using an English IE7, and I'm not feeling the need to switch languages. Will I see an automatic update for the Dutch version, even though I've manually installed the English one?

re: IE7 conflict with HP Scanner Software

AggieDebi — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:09:25 GMT

we have discovered that the HP Director software does not work after installing IE7. i tested it again today (11-15-06) and the issue still exists. our accounting staff are required to scan documents daily, so i am prohibited from download IE7 until this issue is fixed. anybody see a resolution coming soon?

you can email me at debi@tamu.edu or call me at 979-862-1014.

thanks,

AggieDebi

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Shawn — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:23:01 GMT

Firefox is, in my opinion, inferior to IE 6. Why did Microsoft follow THEIR lead and turn IE 7 into a faux Firefox? The home page screen is now almost indistingushable from Firefox's at first glance. I hate IE 7. From the links for favorites, etc being pictures instead of words to the cheap imitative nature of it. Wish I knew how to get rid of IE 7 and reinstall IE 6. I am not a pro-- but is this easy enough to do?

If so, pls e mail me at ssfahrer@yahoo.com. Thanks!

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Wayne — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:47:59 GMT

AU ran when I shut down my PC last night (14th Nov 2006). Tonight, I boot up and the first thing I see is two exceptions in svchost. I can't run AU manually, my sound card is disabled/driver corrupted and my taskbar is corrupted/colours all messed up. Don't you love Miscrosoft? I'm seriously considering turning off AU.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Rich — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:45:36 GMT

If only there would be some intelligent people posting here. Stop bashing microsoft... it isn't their fault your machine is all messed up. Learn to use your machine first, and you will do a whole lot better.

Their software didn't mess you up. All the spyware, and the hacks and cracks you have been playing with messed it up.

I like this quote: "My wife was tricked into downloading this so called upgrade."

Maybe she should learn how to use a computer before clicking yes to everything? Blame her, not microsoft. Lots of people (most of them actually know what they are doing...) like IE7 and welcome it.

And..

"I'm considering a switch to NetScape or another browser."

You probably should. Make sure it has training wheels, and keep your wife away from it.

Maybe a fisher price learning machine would be best for you.

Bunch of whiny crybabies...

Keep up the good work IE7 Team!

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

K Arsenault — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:52:07 GMT

First let me say that I'm not Windows, IE or anything else that works properly. but thank God there is an uninstall option for IE7!

This interface has to be the most horrific counter-intuitive piece of useless cutesy application interface Microsoft has ever produced, IMHO. Icons that are oversized, menu bars that aren't at the top, buttons that out of logical sequence, tabs the size of billboards ... In and of itself, that would be tolerable if it could be customized in any reasonable extent but it can't. You may have fixed some rendering issues but the UI suffered greatly.

I think I'm going to change my default to Firefox. This is just too far ou it left field for comfort.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Les — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:38:57 GMT

I agree with Rich about spyware, hacks and cracks. I had so much bad stuff on my machine I finally ran Registry Toolkit and 99% of my problems went away. If Microsoft doesn't do it for you, use something else.

Relese date for Chinese still unknown?

Alica — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:18:40 GMT

Thanks for the updated AU release timeline, but I still wonder when will you ship IE7 in Chinese for manual download. Regarding east asian languages, Japanese and Korean versions of IE7 have been released by now, left Chinese alone.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

zzz — Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:38:43 GMT

There's definetely something wrong with scrolling and CPU usage on some pages with heavy animated image content.

The frames per second of animated images are not stable, sometimes they go fast sometimes really slow. This is with only IE7 running in clean Vista and no addons running.

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Joseph salim — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 01:42:51 GMT

after upgrade to IE7 Icons change to a blue

" e " ??? And HP scanner director software will not work ??

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

tushar vethekar — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:12:03 GMT

There's definetely something wrong with scrolling and CPU usage on some pages with heavy animated image content.

The frames per second of animated images are not stable, sometimes they go fast sometimes really slow. This is with only IE7 running in clean Vista and no addons running.

PR disaster in China

David Wrixon — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:16:13 GMT

http://translate.google.com/translate?u … uage_tools

http://www.pconline.com.cn/news/nw/0611/908750.html

It would seem that Microsoft is just out of touch with the Political and Market situation in China!

Broken Link above correction

David Wrixon — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:17:34 GMT

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pconline.com.cn%2Fnews%2Fnw%2F0611%2F908750.html&langpair=zh-CN%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Rick Wilcox — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:38:21 GMT

The only complaint I have about IE7: During installation there is a point when it appears the install process has crashed. There is no cursor activity or other indication it is busy doing something.

Every piece of software has a learning curve, once I started down the back side of the curve I was very impressed with the features now provided with IE7. The one feature I use most is the dev toolbar. I used to be a big ford fan but after I tried a chevy I havent looked back.

PS: Learn how to use a computer, Then Learn the software, Then complain about it.

No WSUS silent install with international versions?

Jyrki — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:23:19 GMT

The Finnish version of IE7 came to my WSUS3b2 today, and it was auto-approved for installation to clients. The big surprise was that the WSUS-install was _not_ silent as stated, but instead asked the user to agree EULA, disable antivirus and validate the Windows - things that a corporate end user should never be asked or encouraged to do.

Had no such problems with the English version that came earlier.

Has anyone else had this or is there something wrong with my wsus?

Immediately declined IE7 for now and waiting for a better behaving install. I'm not very pleased with this kind of releases!

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

http — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:24:26 GMT

What I don't understand is why MS pushes IE7 when it's not fully finished yet. I have IE6 on XP English with two MUI packs (spanish and german) installed. Those users now have the english UI in IE7 and have difficulties to use IE. Why not wait with the automatic update until the MUI packs are finished? And why does it take so long to finish those MUIs if the texts are available (fully localized versions of IE7 are finished!)? I don't understand those decisions.

You don't understand? I don't think they do!

David Wrixon — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:47:52 GMT

Perhaps Microsoft would explain why they attended a joint launch of IE7 in China with CNNiC the Chinese Registrar, when they have not launch the Chinese Version of the product. Furthermore, they might explain they decided to point their new IDN address (xn--g5ty67h.cn 微软.CN)to their English Home Page rather than their Chinese Homepage. I have been watching Microsoft for months, and I have to say, that I comprehend nothing.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thethirdmedia.com%2FArticle%2F200611%2Fshow67086c7p1.html&langpair=zh-CN%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

http://www.thethirdmedia.com/Article/200611/show67086c7p1.html

re: IE7 Worldwide Distribution by Automatic Updates

Donna Buenaventura — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 03:23:45 GMT

Please see http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102-0.html?forumID=32&threadID=218677&messageID=2323867

The said blocker was gone. User need to re-activate the value to block it.