Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

This Old Code - Ashok on the IEBlog has some info for OWA users.

This Old Code - Ashok on the IEBlog has some info for OWA users. — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:31:34 GMT

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re: Using Outlook Web Acess (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

Fduch — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:40:31 GMT

WOW!

I just lost all my work in Photoshop due to IE7

Again.

The 3rd time.

No I won't curse you here like others do. But it doesn't mean you won't reap the consequences.

Bye bye

re: Using Outlook Web Acess (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

Dileepa — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:37:49 GMT

We use Lotus Notes at work. There are times when we have to use Notes web access to get to our emails.

Vista IE7 reads those emails fine. But composing emails is broken, probably because of the missing DHTML control? Any work arounds (other than using Firefox ;) (which I do))?

re: Using Outlook Web Acess (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

rc — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:15:35 GMT

1. As far as I know, the word "access" has TWO "c".

2. Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar does not work under Vista x64.

Problems Using Outlook Xpress

susaneb — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:31:00 GMT

Dear group,

Sorry for posting here, I am new to this place and am finding my way around.

I do have a problem with sending out messages in Outlook espress. Unless I go directly to my tiscali.com, I cannot send out ANY messages at all! I do receive them but no longer have the advantage of sending out a message through outlook. I have studied the TOOLs and can't understand what has gone wrong. I am using Windows XP, btw.

hope you can help me!

Susan in Italy

re: IE7 XP pro

Kathy Pond — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:54:32 GMT

I am sorry that I ever downloaded IE7. My first problem was the cutsy menu. I much prefer the standard worded menu. Eventually, I did find the Menu Bar Option under Tools. Since then, I have a more severe difficulty. I have been unable to connect to any site, either from my favorites or from typing the address. The telephone stays connected, but IE7 disconnects and is unable to reach any requested web site. How can I go back to version 6?

re: IE7 XP professional

Kathy Pond — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:59:01 GMT

I am sorry I ever downloaded IE7. My first problem was with the cutsy menu. Eventually I found the Menu Bar option under Tools, which does solve that problem. Since then, the program has been disconnecting itself, and will not go to any address I request: either from the favorites, or by direct reference.

How can I go back to the previous version of IE?

re: Using Outlook Web Acess (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

IE7 Phishing URL security hole found — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:19:54 GMT

IE7 Phishing URL security hole found:

Wednesday March 14, 2007

http://aviv.raffon.net/2007/03/14/PhishingUsingIE7LocalResourceVulnerability.aspx

re: Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

Will — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:30:07 GMT

@I just lost all my work in Photoshop due to IE7

Sure you did. 'Cuz everything is IE's fault.

Outlook Web Access und IE7

Teamzille.de — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:27:39 GMT

Mit Outlook Web Access (OWA) lassen sich Mails auf dem Exchange Server in der Firma über den Browser abrufen und verschicken. Dies wird über ein DHTML-Steuerelement zur Bearbeitung von HTML-Inhalten realisiert. In Vista wurde dieses Steuerel

re: Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

Fduch — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:29:00 GMT

@Will

It's easy to dismiss my words like that, but if you knew how windows works better, you'd understand that my words are true.

Applications use handles. Handles for every window, button, menu, panel etc. There exists a limit for total number of handles.

IE7 has good engine, but bad browser with very bad architecture built around it. This architecture causes ENORMOUS handle usage (and leaks).

So the story is simple: I work with photoshop and browse the Web at the same time. Little by little IE7 eats nearly all available handles. I know nothing about is since there isn't any indicator. So after finishing the project in Photoshop I click File/Save As. Photoshop wants to open Save As dialog, but fails to do so because there aren't enough free handles left. So Photoshop crashes.

Did you understand what I just said?

re: Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

yetti — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:54:41 GMT

deez nuts. save as you go fduch

re: Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

Jerry — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:26:27 GMT

I know there are tools out there, like Drip, to test/track down memory leaks in IE (I think Seive is another), but are there any that track the creation/release of handles?

It would be interesting to see how/when IE7 is creating the handles, and if they are being released properly.

I'm sure if such a tool exist(s/ed) we could use it to find the problems, and then we could report it to Microsofts Bug tracking system for Internet Explorer.

Ok, maybe not submit to the bug tracker, because one doesn't exist! But the people that actually use, and develop on IE, could figure out where the issues are. If Microsoft wants to fix them, great, but if not, we at least have an idea of what not to do.

(e.g. (ficticious example) if opening a window, then making Javascript calls back and forth between the windows starts to churn out handles, then we can use HTTPRequests or XMLHTTPRequests to communicate instead)

Side note:

Is this issue with handles, the reason why things all go to !@#$! if you have 55 tabs open? (All my programs start behaving real weird with this many tabs open)

re: Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

Fduch — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:01:30 GMT

@yetti

As already I mentioned Photoshop crashed when I pressed Save As

@Jerry

I submited this to the bug tracker 3 times. Other different people submited similar problems about 10 times. They said that's "By Design". One culd say they agreed with me that "IE7 has good engine, but bad browser with very bad architecture built around it. This architecture causes ENORMOUS handle usage (and leaks). "

>Is this issue with handles, the reason why things all go to !@#$! if you have 55 tabs open? (All my programs start behaving real weird with this many tabs open)

Yes it is!

And when some other programs are opened it's hard to guess how many tabs I can open without making everything crash.

Example: I heve IE7 with 20 tabs, VS2005 with my project opened and photoshop with 2 files. Can I use the Gel filter in this situation without crashing Photoshop? Nobody knows.

re: Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

PatriotB — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:41:11 GMT

@Fduch -- It is up to each application to handle resource depletion (be it out-of-memory conditions, Windows API calls returning error codes, etc) gracefully. If Photoshop crashes because it doesn't check an error value, that's it's own fault. It should do something like what Word does, and that is periodically save to a backup file such that if the app needs to shut down for some reason, your work can be reloaded the next time and not lost.

IE7 may be responsible for the resource depletion, but it isn't responsible for how other apps react to it.

BTW, I assume that you have reproduced these problems with IE running with add-ons disabled?

re: Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

JANE — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:47:23 GMT

I have exchange server 2003 with SP1.

And Update for Exchange 2003 (KB 911829) does not work on SP1. Do you have patch for SP1?

re: Using Outlook Web Access (OWA) on IE7 and Windows Vista

Fduch — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:23:45 GMT

@PatriotB

>It should do something like what Word does, and that is periodically save to a backup file such that if the app needs to shut down for some reason, your work can be reloaded the next time and not lost.

If only IE7 team heard you (and me). IE7 is the only tabbed browser with no recovery.

>BTW, I assume that you have reproduced these problems with IE running with add-ons disabled?

Yes

>IE7 may be responsible for the resource depletion, but it isn't responsible for how other apps react to it.

Yes. IE7 just eats all resources and other apps crash themselves. But IE7 is the only program that was doing so I have ever seen.