Search in IE7

re: Search in IE7

CSS Jedi — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:39:27 GMT

That's great and all, but what about transparent PNG support?

re: Search in IE7

VishuG [MSFT] — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:45:00 GMT

CSS Jedi --
Here's a previous post you should read:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/04/26/412263.aspx

re: Search in IE7

Dee — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:16:11 GMT

Small site but I have an OpenSearch file available for my Visual Basic wiki at:
http://www.earlsoft.co.uk/hashvb/opensearch.xml

This should be very simple to adapt for all other MediaWiki based sites.

re: Search in IE7

Xepol — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:34:43 GMT

I have to admit that the startpage entry can be a little misleading, esp. when its used in situations where it isn't used. Google for example.

I'll be adding a few "offsite" searchs to my site. IMDB, TV.Com, that sorta thing. The ability to save that sort of this is mighty useful.

re: Search in IE7

Jim_246872 — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:55:10 GMT

Sweet look......Missed out getting into this beta but found the preview link......Search is so much easier to use and just the way it flows!.....Here's to hoping to making Beta 2 with Vista so as to be able to enjoy more of this!

re: Search in IE7

kp — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 05:58:29 GMT

Is there a way to add my own URL or keyword for a search site? I am a nongeek but would like to be able to add search sites such as wikipedia, etc.

IE7 Search

MicrosoftBlog.com — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:15:08 GMT

The IEBlog has a long write up about search in Internet Explorer 7.

re: Search in IE7

JRosenfeld — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:26:10 GMT

A method for adding one's own search engines has been posted at
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=427720&hl=

It involves simple edits in the registry and works well.

re: Search in IE7

mocax — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:04:25 GMT

any plans to implement "search as you type" for text within webpages?

re: Search in IE7

dazzle — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:37:44 GMT

I've implemented some OpenSearch searches at http://www.edazzle.net/os/ and added a product search to another website I handle - http://www.botanicare.co.uk/products.aspx

re: Search in IE7

Glenn — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:16:48 GMT

Simple question? Why is it that the only text entry field in the UI that doesn't allow a "standard" mouse double click to highlight the entire existing field for new text entry is the "Search Box"? This is SO annoying! I know that I can now do a similar thing in a new tap & just start typing, but why can't I do this in the box designed for searches? Maybe I want to search for a wholly new thing? And... one more? What about a Context Search Item for right-clicking on highlighted text? Is that coming (or somehow elluding me)?

re: Search in IE7

mrpoopooplops — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:23:18 GMT

This might not be relevant to this post, but...

How about a limit on the strength of CSS filters in malicious sites?

I can't count the amount of times the following code has maxed my memory and CPU usage, locked up my browser and forced me to reboot.

Shorly no-one really neads an element to have glow/wave strength of '999999999' or more!

<html><body>
<style>
*{
filter: progid:dximagetransform.microsoft.wave(strength=999999999);
}
</style>

</body></html>

re: Search in IE7

hongson — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 22:37:09 GMT

my comments relates to basically UI.
i rarely if ever use the Search bar in IE7 proper, almost always use the Google bar.
so, i would like an option to make the
IE7 search bar disappear; it takes up useless
screen real-estate.

if you insist on displaying it,
then it should at least be re-sizable in
accordance with the address bar it shares.

re: Search in IE7

Xepol — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:08:15 GMT

Hongson -> I use the Google toolbar tool. I have added searches to the search bar that link into my favorite site's search engines. Places I search a LOT like IMDB, TV.COM (still trying to figure out m-w.com, they use a post, so I might not be able do it it). As such, the search bar takes on a TOTALLY new role in my browser that I never had before. You might want to consider giving it a try (after all, google's toolbar ONLY searchs google!)

Here's a question. Is there any way to send the search data as a post instead of query parameters? That would help bring in more third party search engines.

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 02:59:30 GMT

"Why is it that the only text entry field in the UI that doesn't allow a "standard" mouse double click to highlight the entire existing field for new text entry is the "Search Box"? This is SO annoying! I know that I can now do a similar thing in a new tap & just start typing, but why can't I do this in the box designed for searches? Maybe I want to search for a wholly new thing? And... one more? What about a Context Search Item for right-clicking on highlighted text?"

I second everything here. The Address bar can do it, and it should be added. Besides, Ctrl+A doesn't work there either.

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 03:02:13 GMT

"How about a limit on the strength of CSS filters in malicious sites?

I can't count the amount of times the following code has maxed my memory and CPU usage, locked up my browser and forced me to reboot.

Shorly no-one really neads an element to have glow/wave strength of '999999999' or more!"

I second that too. Users don't see the code 'til they're experiencing it. There's no need or usefulness for code like that.

They're obviously not standard CSS, but that's another story.

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 03:14:01 GMT

"What about a Context Search Item for right-clicking on highlighted text?"

Toolbar installs tend to add that, but there should be an item that allows us to search with the same provider we selected for the IE7 Search box.

re: Search in IE7

kevin — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:07:23 GMT

Hi..

In Korea, Netpia.com has a virus or ad removal program named PC-clean that searches a code name IE7’s "URLsearchHook" and erase it..

After the code is removed, address_bar_search changes to the ISP keyword mapping service.

I do not like non standard ISP keyword mapping service… just want to see only standard in address bar.

Thank you for your IE7 works.

re: Search in IE7

Mildrid — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:07:41 GMT

I eat cheese on Sundays.

Pop-up blocker in IE7

kp — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 04:21:05 GMT

This may not be an appropriate question to ask under the discussion on Search but, I don't know where to ask this questions...

The Pop-up blocker seems to be totally ineffective. I have the blocker setting at HIGH even then I get pop-ups. Does anyone have any idea if the setting I am using is not right? Do you know if there are plans to strengthen the IE7 Pop-up blocker?

re: Search in IE7

Xtex — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:58:09 GMT

I haven't had a problem with the popup blocker... works quite well actually.
Kind of amusing really... someone I know went to this one site that opened up several popups (like 5-10 i think) in firefox; I ask what the link was just so I could go to it (in ie) and it opened NONE lol (popup blocker on default setting, javascript enabled)

As for the search field... I like it. Less unused address bar junk and less having to go to homepage this/that... or for that matter installing this or the other toolbar...
Anyway, its easy enough to add it from a website now, but it'd be nice if it could be made easier to add it from within the browser itself :P
Otherwise for making your own (if you have no place to share it/find it otherwise) its having to go into the registry and editing it there or making your own page just to add it...

And speaking of searching, will the final version have enhanced searching of the page itself?

re: Search in IE7

Lagonda — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:29:53 GMT

The websearch implementation is fine. I just wonder why the search field is this teeny tiny field while the address is looooooong, when search strings are statistically longer than URLs? That's like cramming all your clothes into a tiny briefcase and then putting your toothbrush in a huge trunk. Please put a resize handle inbetween the two fields.

The "Find on this page" implementation, however, I sincerely hope is just a preview hack. I cannot and will not believe that this Win95 relic, the Find dialog which pops up inconveniently on top of the page, will be the final offering. This is THE reason why I switched to Firefox and Opera - that's right, it wasn't the tabs, it was the searching on pages.

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:16:27 GMT

"We rejected requests that threatened user privacy. For example, one company wanted any arbitrary web page to be able to determine what search providers the end user had chosen and which provider was the default. We decided that sites could easily violate the user’s privacy if we provided this functionality. Would you really want anyone to know all of the types of search engines you’ve chosen and use that information without your consent?"

It's scary that companies even ask for that.

It's. Not. Their. Business.

These are the same guys that make CoolWebSearch I bet. Of course they probably only called themselves "developers in a wide-reaching content-search company" or something.

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:18:52 GMT

Another thing: Does the Address bar, as of Beta 2 Preview, use the "safer" CURI object ( http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/08/15/452006.aspx )?

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:28:01 GMT

--and one last thing: PLEASE, PLEASE correct the visual-styled button-stretch bug,

http://www.designdetector.com/bugs/ie6-stretched-button-bug.html

and please tell me more than 0 people on the team have noticed it.

re: Search in IE7

Joel — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:07:03 GMT

Why not look at how Firefox implements Search Buttons...? Adding new ones is a snip and only takes a few seconds...

re: Search in IE7

Steven Fredette — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:49:12 GMT

I've added a few here. Would love a way to add a small graphic for each, or even a way to categorize them.

http://www.prowebsites.net/Internet_Explorer_7/IE_7_Search_Providers.asp

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re: Search in IE7

LuYi — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:45:18 GMT

I am really having slow responses when browsing some chinese websites, primarily forums written in asp and cgi. Slow responses mean that ie7 does not response instantly like ie6 does when I use the scroll wheel on the mouse, the page just hang and then scroll. And when you move your mouse over a link , you have to wait until it's become clickable.

another problem would be the new tools bar next to the tabs. It does not show up properly from time to time. Or maybe it would be better if we are given an option to choose not to display it and use the classic one.

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re: Search in IE7

Leon Zandman — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:58:28 GMT

Different locales might use different search providers, but Google is always number one. So you could have added that one by default ;-)

re: Search in IE7

jsminch — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:34:33 GMT

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchUrl

provides a wonderful hack, but I would rather just have a place in my "search config" dialog box where I could hook up a string to each search provider in the search providers list (or maybe one string for two or three providers and search them all), get rid of the searchbar if I want to, and have the same functionality from the address bar.

re: Search in IE7

jsminch — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:01:24 GMT

BTW

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchUrl\msdn]
@="http://search.msdn.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?qu=%s"
" "="+"
"#"="%23"
"%"="%25"
"&"="%26"
"+"="%2B"

Seems to work just fine. It's just the search string that the search toolbar uses with %s replacing "{searchTerms}" and a few escape characters. I suppose it would be easy to script this, but it would be nicer if it were built in to IE and the URL search were coupled to the search bar.

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:41:07 GMT

"Different locales might use different search providers, but Google is always number one. So you could have added that one by default ;-)"

Joking aside, good luck getting default Google Search from affiliates of MSN Search...

"I cannot and will not believe that this Win95 relic, the Find dialog which pops up inconveniently on top of the page, will be the final offering."

I too hope not. Find bar on bottom of window > unwieldy modal dialogs.

re: Search in IE7

damian — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:52:42 GMT

Well I think it's great that this product is forward coming. To all that opinion may, the emphesis should be allowed all twords what the end user should pick and then after, served found perfect. So as not to disallow for the functinality we have as a we, total to each one another comunicate. Make it a virtual, and safe proven step with that, to the extensions option found in the like of Mozilla.org's Firefox Extensions. A closer step to show forth what we see. Thanks alot, and happy surfing!

re: Search in IE7

damian — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:55:15 GMT

Would be nice to add the option of zipping, or hiding in and out, the presented opions (like search)at will by the press of a button.

re: Search in IE7

damian — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:57:19 GMT

how about a spell check facility or maybe dictionary.com lookup search

re: Search in IE7

damian — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 04:01:58 GMT

how about a comunity option to the browser. make it work so that all content added is created and moderated through a defined user comunity source. so as not compromise and allow forth a broader to the spectrum apointed twords comrcial as well as private on the "eye of the browser".

re: Search in IE7

Tim — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 05:12:18 GMT

I'd indeed like it a lot if I could just remove it. I'm using the Google Toolbar, and soon, custom buttons are easy enough to add there. I won't need the IE7 search box, and already am very busy ignoring it.

N. B. Microsoft does not believe the user should be in control of their PC, since you're using Digital Rights Management in Windows Media Player. I'll just assume that remark was off the record.

re: Search in IE7

project-duh — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:56:47 GMT

Steven Fredette, yes, lets simply copy firefox, thats the idea... IE7 was bought to you by Firefox and opera, thanks for the great ideas.

re: Search in IE7

EricLaw [MSFT] — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:53:44 GMT

Xepol-- Do you have examples of search providers that only offer a POST interface?

Game kid-- Yes, the wide button stretch bug is well known, but I don't think it will be fixed for IE7.

Game kid-- URLs entered on the address bar are parsed and stored in a CURI before passed into the navigation code.

re: Search in IE7

Steven Fredette — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:05:39 GMT

project-duh: It's not really a copy to add a logo for searching (presuming this is what you meant). It is just good marketing and user friendly. Or is Burger King just copying McD's by having a sign out front?

On the other hand, yes IE is going to have to catch up to FF. Yes we are going to see some of the same features in both. So what? As long as both render coding the same way, who cares?

BTW, Opera is the worst browser made. Go ahead and validate coding you've done via the W3C. You'll see IE 7.0 B2 and FF render it perfectly (in most cases, there is still a problem with IE 7 B2 render any layer that is using position: fixed), and Opera completely get hosed by it! http://www.prowebsites.net/TestingArea/default.htm is just a simple, yet valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional and CSS page. It renders perfectly in IE 7.0 B2 and FF 1.5.0.1, but the upper right text gets hosed by Opera 8.51

re: Search in IE7

Ron — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:23:16 GMT

lol, great ad.

http://mediaaddict.members.winisp.net/video/IE/IE7_big.wmv

Didn't you have a budget or something to worry about?

re: Search in IE7

Jorrit Schippers — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:54:44 GMT

Does IE7 detect properly that a search provider is already in the list? What comparison method is used to compare the new item and the item already in the list?

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re: Search in IE7

Andrew Eberhard — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:38:29 GMT

So much attention to searching for other pages yet comparatively little to searching the current page. Find-as-you-type would have been nice.

Unrelated

derrick — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:53:20 GMT

Do you guys have any intention of passing this test? It seems pretty silly that you still don't.

http://www.student.oulu.fi/~sairwas/object-test/alternative/alt5.html

re: Search in IE7

Harold — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:32:18 GMT

So No logo for Google?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/searchguide/default_new.mspx

This just looks real petty. They are the king of search, accept it, and move on.

Give them a logo.

Ta,
Harold

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:52:06 GMT

"So No logo for Google? [...] This just looks real petty. They are the king of search, accept it, and move on. Give them a logo."

Harold, it's not always THAT easy for companies to use trademarks of competitors. Remember, Google has been promoting Firefox ever since the K__-F_ L__* feud.

I'm sure GOOG would thus charge Microsoft big bucks to allow 'em the logo, if they even let MS use it AT ALL. Logos, as trademarks, must be protected from the competition under US law (but I'm no lawyer, so ask one instead why).

*censored by myself, not the blog. Save your MS hatemail.

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:57:05 GMT

"Do you guys have any intention of passing this test? It seems pretty silly that you still don't."

Should it show a dark 100*100 square with AlternaTIFF installed? (I'll try it later to see how it handles the fallback.)

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:58:57 GMT

"They are the king of search, accept it, and move on."

Indeed, that would give GOOG MORE power over who can and can't use the logo.

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:14:30 GMT

Nope, fallback doesn't work on http://www.student.oulu.fi/~sairwas/object-test/alternative/alt5.html as it should, when a TIFF viewer is disabled (or uninstalled). Fix please.

That said, http://mediaaddict.members.winisp.net/video/IE/IE7_big.wmv = best, weirdest ad EVER.

"Didn't you have a budget or something to worry about?"

This is Microsoft. That and budget are almost mutually exclusive. ;)

re: Search in IE7

game kid — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:39:32 GMT

See the entire test suite at http://www.student.oulu.fi/~sairwas/object-test/alternative/ too.

http://www.student.oulu.fi/~sairwas/object-test/alternative/alt4.html is especially troubling.

re: Search in IE7

Adam — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:52:50 GMT

This has to mean that the public release can't be to far off.

http://mediaaddict.members.winisp.net/video/IE/IE7_big.wmv

re: Search in IE7

Dean — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:05:46 GMT

I would love to have the Google logo up there. They wouldn't let us use it. Ask them.

re: Search in IE7

Brent — Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:23:57 GMT

Thanks for all your hard work to date! If possible, a feature for right+click search would be fantastic!!! I hate having to find the pull-down OR ctrl+f to do it. ;-)

re: Search in IE7

Brad Chamberlain — Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:33:28 GMT

It would be nice to be able to size the URL and search boxes. By default the search box is way too small.

re: Search in IE7

Walt Cone — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:02:38 GMT

Keyboard shortcut key for Internet explorer's search assistant

Is there a keyboard shortcut to allow a blind person to put in his favorite search engine. I didn't find one in the keyboard shortcuts area of the doccumentation.

re: Search in IE7

Bernard — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:23:31 GMT

2 reasons why I don't like the search box in IE7:

- I can't remove it
- I don't see how to open the search results in a new tab directly. (Since we can Ctrl-Click the links to open tabs, I would have tought Ctrl-Enter would open in a new tab, no?)

IE7 OpenSearch implementation

Simon — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:21:45 GMT

I like the search feature, and especially autodiscovery, but it would be nice to see more of the information in an OpenSearch Description being used.

I agree with those who have suggested that a logo would be nice, but recognise that permission may not be granted. Why not read the Image element of the OpenSearch description, and display the image if (and only if) it is served from the same server as the OpenSearch description? If a search provider chooses to make a logo available, it can be displayed; if they don't, then it can't/won't be. If a third party makes a copy of a search provider's logo and publishes it in this way, they will presumably be responsible for it.

The Description element could be used to provide a tooltip, and also displayed in the confirmation box if it is requested that it be added to the permanent list.

The main problem at the moment is the user does not know which search engine will be used without opening the list to check - that is where an icon and/or tooltip/hover action would be very useful.

Now that the search implementation has been improved to be comparable to, and for web developers better than, Firefox, are there any plans to improve the find tool for within a page? Firefox's implementation is in many ways excellent but could be improved; IE's remains at the minimum usable level.

re: Search in IE7 - need Drop down history

Pierre Huguet — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:52:52 GMT

I think the most important feature missing is the drop down showing your last 10 or 20 searches.

Make that text box a combo box and keep the history of my searches please!!!