Fix My Settings in IE7

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Tom Stack — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:18:13 GMT

If I read this correctly it comes up every time you start IE?

Power users and devs need to be able to turn it off without group policy like a dont remind me again.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

asdf — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:27:03 GMT

Add an option to disable notification bars all together (IE's javascript error icon in the status bar is a good model for this if you still want to notify users of an error/warning). I disable java/ActiveX in IE5 and it constantly gives me message boxes about not being able to display the page as the author intended.

Firefox annoyingly ripped IE's notification bars off and since I don't want to install plugins, notification bars constantly appear which shifts the page down. But if you know what you're doing, you can edit browser.js to not make the bar appear at all (and also to make clicking on a plugin placeholder do nothing instead of trying to download the plugin).

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

JRosenfeld — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:30:24 GMT

Thank you, Nanny, but I think it quite wrong to make it troublesome for the user to set the security level required in different circumstances.

The example you give is particularly relevant.

I have 'initialize and script active X controls not marked as safe for scripting' set to prompt in Internet zone, for one good reason:

XP Home, SP2, all updates. If you try to use any of the troubleshooters when in device manager/any device/properties, the troubleshooter won't run properly if that setting is set to disabled (you get a message that an active X control has been prevented from running). Set to prompt, you get a message that an active X control that might be unsafe is trying to run, and you can choose whether or not to let it.

So until Microsoft marks its own active X controls in XP as safe for scripting I'll keep it at prompt, and deny if it's from somewhere I don't trust and accept otherwise.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

JoeM — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:42:49 GMT

It is realy a bad spot to be in. If you don't warn the user to about the problem(then your product will be blamed for not being secure enough). If you do warn the user, power users want to disable this feature(which is fine) but now you have not make sure spyware/malware/virus don't turn this feature off either. It is a very hard spot to be in. Hope you can find a happy medium.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

PatriotB — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:49:06 GMT

JRosenfeld: I just tried out some troubleshooters and didn't have any problems. (I have the setting set to "Disable".) For you, is the troubleshooter showing up in the Help & Support window, or is it showing up in an IE window? (It should be in a H&S window.)

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Chris — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 05:12:02 GMT

I hate this setting. You beat us to death with the warning. We are users not sheep. If we mess it up then so be it.

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re: Fix My Settings in IE7

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Gerph — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 05:42:42 GMT

There is something wrong to my mind with allowing the settings to be broken. If you're saying you're going to fix things then that means that they are broken. Wouldn't it be better to not allow them to break in the first place ?

Or, better still, call them what they are - "Insecure settings" - and don't imply to the user that something magical 'broke' the system and that it needs to be fixed. Don't say that you're fixing something if you've left the option available for someone to change. That tells the user that they should never do anything because they will break things. Change the message to say "Make my settings more secure". Inform the user of potential problems and don't lie to them - the settings are not broken. They're just less secure than they might be.

I believe there's a lyric that applies - if "you can break it, it's already broken".

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Someone else — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:09:22 GMT

So you're going to continue to beat us over the head with more security settings we may not want. Nothing new there. Heaven forbid I actually want to think for myself.

"Power users" or just people who want to stop being annoyed to death by Microsoft, don't worry. Someone will find a registry fix if they haven't already to get around this.

This is another reason I prefer to use alternative browsers that give me the freedom I deserve.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Brad — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:02:36 GMT

Seems like most want to be able to get around this setting; that is until they mess it up and then the old blame game goes to Microsoft.

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dave yie — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:27:21 GMT

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This toolbar just cover only the address box with clear coating form that the users can not be recognized by their eyes and catch only keyword inputs without catching domains.

It is possible that kind of tool bar could make and work on ie7? Anyboby, any answer?

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

ham — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:10:43 GMT

So, why would IE allow choosing unsafe settings for web browsing?

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Martin — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:33:01 GMT

Great feature. As a "power user" I could live without it, but for people like my mum and dad (both already retired) this is very, very useful. They don't know anything about scripting or ActiveX and cannot decide which setting is safe and which is not.

BTW, the red background for unsecure settings in the security tab is a good hint, too, to see which item are currently set to an unsecure value.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Max C — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:08:26 GMT

***It's very concerning to see all this info about disabling ActiveX controls but nothing about the status of .NET controls. Can we please have some background about the ongoing support of these?

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

hAl — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:40:10 GMT

Why don't you guys call it
"Secure my settings"
in stead of
"Fix my settings"

It isn't really fixing anything.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Ron — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:49:41 GMT

I seriously don't want any more popups suggesting that I don't know what I'm doing.

"1. Why does IE continually remind me of my security settings?"
"2. How do I know which settings will leave me in an insecure state?"
"3. Are there any ways to get around the reminders?"

translation:

1. Why does IE continually tell me it doesn't work properly?
2. How many options will I have to turn off?
3. We won't give you any choices, we know what you want, don't question us.

Please, don't take options away from the users, it's like taking my keys and telling me I shouldn't be driving a car.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Peter — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:08:41 GMT

The main problem here is the opinion of Power Users, and themselves assuming their own opinion applies to normal users.

It's safe to say the actual siutuation would be as follows:

Power Users: Probably hate the feature, know excactly what it means, and will most likely want to disable it.

Normal Users: Are already bombarded with horror stories about ActiveX, Spyware and alike - so will probably appreciate the feature, and feel more secure using it.

Now, as the post says: "users of older versions of IE often put their computers at risk temporarily ... then forget to set their security settings back to the recommended level". I'd say this is a very strong argument for not providing a UI setting (or registry hack - it would still be a risk).

So how exactly are Microsoft supposed to keep both types of users happy? I don't think they can, and in terms of quantity - and security - they've obviously opted to put normal Users first.

And as Brad said above, they'll be a huge volume of complaints - but I would bet many of the same people wouldn't hesitate to 'blame Microsoft' if the same old pre-IE7 security problems stories came out.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Thomas Tallyce — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:41:56 GMT

Speaking of settings, isn't it about time to change the whole settings dialog box to use a more sensible layout, now that there are such a *huge* number of property pages in.

The tab metaphor is really no longer appropriate because of the sheer number of settings, and the whole settings area is confusing and sometimes contradictory. Why, for instance, is 'browsing history' on the "general" tab (i.e. the 'shove everything else here' tab) rather than the 'Privacy tab'. Also, the 'advanced' tab contains such a long list of things that should be their own pages and better described.

Isn't it about time to move towards the sort of layout involving a left menu acting as a sort of hierarchy with links to each property page, e.g. as used by say PuTTY:

http://www.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/PuTTY-Screenshot-1001.html

and any number of other applications?

Perhaps this is something you will be fixing after the huge effort to get IE7(.0) through the door is done. But I do hope it will be considered. What's there is basically a pile of stuff bolted on to how things were in 1998.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Lex — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:22:02 GMT

Sounds Reasonable; even as a power user I've occasionally left my browser insecure after testing something so I'll be happy to leave this on my personal machine.

As for development work (I actually find your generally doing something wrong if you have to lower your security settings to get something to work in development) well use the policy setting - I mean that should be easy for a real power user - right?

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Jote — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:37:08 GMT

"It's all bollocks" phrase comes to my mind, sadly...

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

евпатория — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:39:57 GMT

What you think about security Outpost Firewall?

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Aaron — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:29:16 GMT

Some of you posting seem to forget that if you trust a site to be doing these programs that they should be added to the Trusted Zone list on a case-by-case basis rather than changing security for the entire Internet and Restricted Zones... stop whining about the IE Team doing their job to INCREASE SECURITY and protect users.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Xepol — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:47:49 GMT

Thanks, more things to piss me off and alienate me into using Firefox.

1. I automatically assume that ANY setting I change from the default in the zone has the potential to make my machine more insecure. I needed it that way, I set it that way. QUIT NAGGING ME, I ALREADY FREAKING KNOW.

2. Use SECURITY to protect my settings from being changed by anyone but the person who knows the administrator password for the machine. This is just as possible under XP as Vista, even if MS is too lazy to do it, or doesn't WANT to fix it as part of a sleazy attempt to drive us to Vista.

Problem solved, I don't need to be nagged constantly.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

kezie — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:06:47 GMT

Thanks so much for informing all of us in such and early stage. We now all know that IE 7 will never become a feasible alternative for the superior browsers Opera and Firefox. The latter applications assume a certain level of intelligence in their users and act accordingly.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

JoeM — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:20:02 GMT

Xepol you say that but then when you get spyware/malware/viruses onto your system through IE, you will blame IE for being insecure when it was your fault for disabling the security features.

It is a tough spot to be in.

If you give the user an option to disable a security feature you also give the bad software the option to get around your security.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

John Fox — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:23:13 GMT

In IE6, if a page uses any JavaScript, and if that page is loaded from a local device, that triggers a security warning. How does the "Fix My Settings" thing (I can't call it a feature!) affect local zone pages? Does it affect that at all? If the security warning of IE6 is reproduced in IE7, IE7 is unusable. IE6 needs to differentiate between scripts that include unsafe operations versus those that don't.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Tom — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:35:01 GMT

You aren't addressing the real problem. IE should stop relying on Active X controls. Other browsers don't use the insecure Active X controls in their implementations. You should learn from the makers of Firefox instead of keeping in the same failed direction.

I have to view pages I design in IE, but as long as IE continues to have irritating warning messages popping up, I will use other browsers for my regular browsing.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Paul Freeman-Powell — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:44:11 GMT

Xepol, you might not need to be nagged, but the very fact that you read and comment on this blog indicates that you're computer-savvy.

The VAST, VAST majority of IE users won't have a CLUE about security or anything like that. So nagging them and spelling it out for them to make it absolutely clear is definitely a good thing.

Why on earth that would "alienate" you or drive you to use Firefox, I don't know...

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

sIKE — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:06:26 GMT

If there is a GPO setting to turn this on and off, there is a registry setting to turn this on and off. If I am a "real" power user I would know this and make the poke and be done with it. Just like I have by having IE download PDF's instead of opening (thanks Adobe for a very yucky default setting), or like I have enabled IE to download more than two files at once, and queue a third. Power User should know how things work, and be to resolve a problem like a mechanic, pop open the hood get the tools and go to work, not sit and whine that the oil is dirty, ewwwww.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Frederick Szczepanski — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:24:00 GMT

I understand that you are trying to make it more secure as many new computer users are now getting a computer and exploring the Internet. However, I've used a computer since I was in 5th Grade (let's just say more than 10 years), and I know when I am at risk and when I am not. I think what I'm getting at is you could have two different levels of settings:
+Power/Advanced User Interface: You don't get irritating warnings and things blocked that you don't want and then get bothered. It's like you forcing us to wear a certain color of clothing. "This looks better on you; you'll get more dates this way. Wear this. We know what's best." Yes, unfortunately, I know what is best, too, and I usually never follow that standard. We know not to speed, but do we?...

Then the other mode would be:
+Standard Security Settings or something along those lines. When you select the advanced/power user, a warning can come up saying you are potentially putting your system at risk indefinitely. Just warn us. Isn't that what Windows used to do? System Restore: When you turn it off, it says, "Are you sure? You won't be able to roll back!" ... Isn't that all we need? If we're determined, we'll do it, but having to go through more steps is a pain in the...

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Rob — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:44:43 GMT

Surely power users would just use the Local Policy MMC to change the setting to what they wanted, anyway?

I think this feature is a great idea!

The ignorant need to be saved from themselves.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Sooooo — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:21:50 GMT

When I accidentally click on fix my settings (cause you know, this will happen a lot)...

It will provide a dialog for confirmation, correct?

(read: It certainly better!)

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re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Mr. Raybell — Thu, 09 Mar 2006 23:37:34 GMT

Here's an idea / solution for the settings fiasco this WILL cause:

User Setting Context.

Allow a user to have different modes of settings, be it, General User, Advanced User, and Power User.

The first two would probably encompass the masses and then some, while allowing a full range of options for developers and truly knowledge users to set security settings and reminders to something that's more comfortable to tolerate.

I HATE being bombarded with the infobar when I already know what's going on, and I'm well aware of my settings. It'd be nice to just disable all these "security" features so that I can browse, test, and debug pages without being warned EVERY FRICKIN' TIME about a license, script, what have you.

Give power to all users, please!

P.S. Any word on a fix for debugging ASP.NET apps with IE 7? When I'm in a breakpoint, I notice that if I'm in there too long, IE will "timeout" instead of waiting for the page to respond again, like IE 6.x did. Any workaround / option for this?

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Andrew — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:31:44 GMT

Why not just allow a "don't remind me again this session" that temporarily removes the restriction but reverts to the default when you close the browser (or perhaps navigate away from the current domain). Or at least let us get rid of the warnings by adding the site/domain to Trusted Sites!

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

forgetfoo — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:42:06 GMT

[kind of OT]

i've noticed something under IE7B2 that's kinda been driving me a little nuts of late.. if you have a positioned div and set the opacity, or dynamically change it with some script, the text has this black outline to it that i can't seem to get rid of...

i'm sure it's probably been mentioned a few times already, but thought i'd drop a quick note while i'm sitting here bang'n my head against the wall over it in this mockup. *blank_stare*

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

JanMichiel — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:30:43 GMT

"Problem solved, I don't need to be nagged constantly."

I ...

That's the error in your reasoning.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Ron — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:50:39 GMT

"we also want to prevent you"

That's the error in the IE Team's reasoning.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

JanMichiel — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:47:22 GMT

"we also want to prevent you"

That's the error in the IE Team's reasoning.

---

No it's not, because you is not you.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

jusee hwang — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:01:23 GMT

If you seeeee that pop up,just click the "disable" and forget...Isn't it easy?
Do not complain like kids!

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Ron — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:01:34 GMT

Yes I am.

<_<

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

steved — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:38:44 GMT

I just recently updated my internet explorer to 7 and now my internet favorites while in MSN premium no longer work? Anyone know why and how to fix?

thanks,

Steve D

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

redxii — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:58:23 GMT

It's a fact, most users need to be protected from themselves. However if I know what I am doing i'd like to not be nagged.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Vince P — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:51:05 GMT

Isn't funny how these "experts" on here are too obtuse to understand that IF YOU WANT A SPECIFIC SITE TO RUN CODE ON YOUR MACHINE, ADD TO THE TRUSTED ZONE.

The new feature introduced here is about code coming from the internet zone.

You people who b---h and moan claim to be so saavy, yet can't seem to master reading comprehension.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Smiling Skull — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:24:30 GMT

Again,

"Secure my settings for me..." - NOT FIX; implies IE7 is breakable and is not secure enough

Like Protected mode that is turned on by default, I have to comend you again on security; this time you do not even provide a way to turn it off!
1- This woudl reminde developers to program better
2- Instill caution in users

:) See, you've made me smile...

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Antonio Marques — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:02:05 GMT

I think this is a step in the right direction. The majority (all?) of the posters here are power users and simply don't (or can't...) understand what an average user is. And what he/she is is someone that must be saved from him/her self. Sad but true.
Regarding power users: if they are so, they can fiddle with group policies.

Keep up the good work in the right direction.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Jim — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:11:47 GMT

IE7 keeps crashing on my blog site and shutting down, so I cant view it now. Please sort the problem out.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Mr. Raybell — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:14:35 GMT

"Isn't funny how these "experts" on here are too obtuse to understand that IF YOU WANT A SPECIFIC SITE TO RUN CODE ON YOUR MACHINE, ADD TO THE TRUSTED ZONE...."

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So you propose that we add ALL OUR SITES to the trusted zones? That makes PERFECT sense! Eureka! I guess I should retract my statement, since I was "oh so wrong."

Group policy editing.. well, I suppose we could all do that, but why in the HELL should I modify the setting in the gp for one app on my machine, locally, not on a domain?

Am I the only user that thinks an applications settings should be with... wait for it.... the application!?

[sigh]

</endRant>

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

IE — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 02:09:44 GMT

This is a comment

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Max J Holwell III — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:39:49 GMT

"Am I the only user that thinks an applications settings should be with... wait for it.... the application!?"

In a perfect world where normal users won't do stupid things, yes. But that isn't the case...

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Anonymous — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:30:42 GMT

Why do you use two words in the options dialog box to indicate insecure settings "recommended"and "not secure". Please be consistent and use only one word such as "insecure". Also, learn how to use the language properly and do not put double negatives like "do not prompt from my password: enable, disable". Thes above is a hypothetical option but I have found worse example in Windows and in IE. When you word something make sure that it will be easily understandable. What would it mean eg. Do Not Prompt for my Password = Disabled. It means prompt for it but it is toooo confusing.
Also, as some others have pointed out "Fix my settings"should be changed to "Make my settings more secure". And please please add help for every option in that security dialog. In the IE versions until now I still do not know what some options in there do and how they would affect me like the one that has to do with active channels or something.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Andy C — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:31:08 GMT

"Group policy editing.. well, I suppose we could all do that, but why in the HELL should I modify the setting in the gp for one app on my machine, locally, not on a domain? "

Which is precisely why the local group policy exists. Personally I congratulate the IE team for this. Half the people out there who think they're "power users" are precisely the people who really need the protection. Using the safe defaults should be perfectly fine for 99% of sites out there.

ActiveX

Tricky — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 02:56:29 GMT

If i set ActiveX to prompt .. can I have it remember which websites i am OK with activeX on permanently?

Also, how to disable sound for specific webpages especially if it's in one of the tabs i am not looking at.

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mohamed — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:10:42 GMT

Fix My Settings in IE7

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mohamed — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:12:16 GMT

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A tiny problem faced in IE7

Wong — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 05:06:38 GMT

Hi Development team,

I have discovered a problem in IE7. When clicking a hyperlink with <target="_blank"> in its HTML, the new page comes out in a new window but not in a new tab. I hope you can look into this issue and solve it.

I not sure if I am posting in the correct place, but I find no other way to post this.

IE7 new tester,
Wong

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

EricLaw [MSFT] — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:32:56 GMT

<<When I'm in a breakpoint, I notice that if I'm in there too long, IE will "timeout" instead of waiting for the page to respond again, like IE 6.x did. Any workaround / option for this?>>

We've recently changed the timeouts back to the IE6 defaults and you'll see the change in an upcoming build. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Jason — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:21:34 GMT

I'm a new IE 7 user, i'm seeing alot of bugs, hope you get this working right....HA

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Jason's Brother — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:06:09 GMT

I'm a new IE7 user, I'm dumb and I'm seeing a lot of bugs through the window of my house. Houpe you get this working right, because firefox is the best browser on earth made by jesus for christus.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Fiery Kitsune — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:51:42 GMT

JRosenfeld, keeping it at prompt is ok, this won't invoke the security warnings described above. Only if you actually set it (or any other security setting) to the option described as "(not secure)" will the security warnings start occuring.

Don't tell webdevs and sysadmins what is secure and what isn't...

Make it easily overrideable or adaptive.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Barry McWirter — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:15:51 GMT

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Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:30 AM by Anonymous
Why do you use two words in the options dialog box to indicate insecure settings "recommended"and "not secure". Please be consistent and use only one word such as "insecure". Also, learn how to use the language properly and do not put double negatives like "do not prompt from my password: enable, disable". Thes above is a hypothetical option but I have found worse example in Windows and in IE. When you word something make sure that it will be easily understandable. What would it mean eg. Do Not Prompt for my Password = Disabled. It means prompt for it but it is toooo confusing.
Also, as some others have pointed out "Fix my settings"should be changed to "Make my settings more secure". And please please add help for every option in that security dialog. In the IE versions until now I still do not know what some options in there do and how they would affect me like the one that has to do with active channels or something.
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Yeah, that'll tell them. If you're going to make a point at least make sure you're correct. Did you just mash your hand on the keyboard and hope it'd make a sentence? What you posted makes no sense at all.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Chris Bloom — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:41:18 GMT

I can appreciate the usefulness of this feature. But I question why you wouldn't provide a method for a user to turn off the prompts. And if you aren't going to trust a user to override the security settings on purpose, why include the option in the first place?

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Tony — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:56:52 GMT

I'm agreeing with all the recommendations to reword the label "Fix my Settings" this implies that there is something wrong, but custom settings are not wrong. Yes there are malware programs that change settings, but would it be better to include the intended results of this feature directly into the existing buttons "Restore Defaults" in Advanced or "Default Level" in Security of Internet Options? If this isn't possible a suggestion is "Restore Default Setting For This Zone."

I know it's been mentioned, but the idea of including profile settings beyond Group Policy, such as identities for Outlook Express, is a brilliant idea.

"[W]e do not provide a way in the user interface of turning off this feature" I still don't understand why you did this. Why couldn't you include a simple option such as "Warn if not default security setting" Always, Only when changed, and Never. And have Always as default?

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Jesper Revald — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:33:11 GMT

Must agree with most in here. It's a great feature for securing ordinary users, but please leave some way for the rest of us to turn it off in the application. GPE is not the way to go.

I really think that you guys a killing your self by constantly trying to protect everyone, but in the process annoy all the power users. Remember that it is the power users that usually are in a position to decide or recommend which program/browser company X should use in the future. Don't piss off the people who normally supports you.

It's just like the time when Outlook suddenly began to decide which attachments I were allowed to see without giving me any way of deciding for my self (unless I wanted to edit the registry). Kinda arrogant to impose this don't you think? I know of at least one company (+500 users) that swapped mail clients because of this (well... it was the "thing" that tipped the iceberg).

Hope you find a solution that all can live with.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Tomalak Geret'kal — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:13:52 GMT

It's the same old story.

"Power Users" don't like to be told that their settings are "wrong" or "broken". If I've changed the security settings away from the bog standard defaults it's because I *want* to. Because I have a reason to. I don't even need a good reason to: it's my reason and it's my browser and that's the end of it.

Reminding me constantly is annoying, and thinking that it's the right thing to do is so Microsoft it really drives me up the wall. This is my browser, not yours.

"Standard Users" who don't know about ActiveX or scripting probably should be encouraged to make their browser as safe as possible. Fine. Any yes, possibly this is the best way to do it.

Essentially, though, the nag takes away the practical ability to customise security settings. There should DEFINITELY be a "don't ask me again" option, even if it's just in the security options so that "simple users" shouldn't be fiddling around in there.

That should suit everyone. And please, please, Microsoft... don't tell me my settings are wrong. That's like when I opt to disable Windows Firewall in SP2 (because I have a router taking care of that, or for whatever reason I personally choose) and Windows constantly beats me over the head telling me that what I'm doing is wrong. Sure, make it clear that it might not be wise. But stop telling me off. Thanks.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Biohazerd87 — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:46:53 GMT

Yeah, it's so annoying that everytime I am at a secure page, it warns me if a picture is being loaded from a non secure location, and won't load the picture. So when I am on Google Adsense or gmail everytime I load the page I have to click the bar to reload non secure items and there is no way around this.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Press any key — Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:56:06 GMT

Is MS Agent going to work in IE7 by default on everyone's PC? Given it's an ActiveX control.

re: Fix My Settings in IE7

redxii — Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:04:27 GMT

By the way, IE team, "open files based on content not by file extension" is a very insecure default setting, and who wants code automatically launching from iframes?

The first one breaks some streaming video, then again, Firefox cannot view some streams because it opens on extension and not file content. But, if I want to view a text file, it better damn well be just a text file!

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re: Fix My Settings in IE7

Bruce McIsaac — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:38:08 GMT

I only want to get this the heck out of my pc..I can only hope by downloading a diffrent browser like firefox I'll be able to sort everything so I can complatly reload windows as the inet 7 will not uninstall.

If you play online games like TW golf you'll be soory you made the error of trusting MS beta programs

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