re: More on Simple List Extensions

Grant Hughes — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:37:47 GMT

I keep getting a 404 error on all but the Simple List Extension specification page.

re: More on Simple List Extensions

ieblog — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:52:47 GMT

Try going to them from the blog entry and not from an RSS view...

- Al Billings [MSFT]

Poor standard made worse non-standard?

kL — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:19:50 GMT

Oh, why RSS? It's a poor standard abandoned by it's creators.

Maybe you could get involved in development of Atom? That could help push better technology instead of keeping alive and twisting old protocol.

http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/Rss20AndAtom10Compared

re: More on Simple List Extensions

game kid — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:40:27 GMT

See my comment on http://blogs.msdn.com/rssteam/archive/2006/03/28/563116.aspx#565304

re: More on Simple List Extensions

rss — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:55:08 GMT

kL:

The SLE extensions work equally well in Atom (or RSS 1.0, for that matter).

For what it's worth, the RSS standard may not be advanced any further, but people are still using it it in droves.

At the end of the day, users shouldn't have to care what format a publisher chooses to use, so we support all formats.

- Sean [MSFT]

re: More on Simple List Extensions

John A. Bilicki III — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:04:49 GMT

While I'm a Firefox user I like the fact that you guys took the (what five minutes?) to ensure that the feed's title is the default name of the feed when bookmarked.

Firefox fans should vote for this bug...
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251447

Firefox fans following IE's development should also spend some time voting on some bugs that should have been fixed a couple years ago...
http://www.jabcreations.com/web/browser-bugs.php#Gecko

I've not spent any time on CSS in regards to XML/RSS but if styling information is associated with an RSS feed would IE display it instead of what I'm seeing by default?

Thanks for the post Sean.

re: More on Simple List Extensions

Sam Ruby — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:38:03 GMT

re: or RSS 1.0, for that matter

Not quite. As this data is in RDF/XML format, it can't be included in RSS 1.0.

I have a question. Over time various mechanisms have been set up to provide feedback on this extension: a wiki, a mailing list, and various blogs. Each time, I've tried posting to each without success. What's the best way to raise questions?

I'm particulary interested in where cf:type, cf:id, and cf:read are documented.

I also am interested in knowing if cf:sort is meant to apply pre- or post- normalization.

re: More on Simple List Extensions

Xepol — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:30:33 GMT

Personally, I find the RSS features to be a little lame. I have to visit the RSS feed section to see if anything has changed..

Then, if something HAS been highlighted, I gotta go dig to see if something has been highlighted. If I want to reread something, it better not be a busy rss feed or it may well scroll right off.

Frankly, the RSS feature turned out just as I predicted. Totally useless.

Just talk the RSS Bandit people into a bundling deal and have a REAL rss feed reader, throw out the poor excuse for the RSS reader that currently exists. Which is really just a kludge of an older "update offline webpages" feature no-one ever used combined with a style sheet.

Frankly, you should all be embarrassed for trying to pass this off as anything other than an wasted afternoon's efforts.

Synchronicity » IE7 “extends” RSS

Synchronicity » IE7 “extends” RSS — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:50:11 GMT

PingBack from http://www.joshkagan.com/sync/2006/03/30/ie7-extends-rss/

re: More on Simple List Extensions

Mike — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:21:43 GMT

I agree, the IE7 beta RSS feature is just ridiculous, unusable. There's no "Refresh All" button, it refused to update the slashdot feed, even when i went to the rss file and hit Ctrl+F5.

re: More on Simple List Extensions

EricLaw [MSFT] — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:15:08 GMT

Xepol: From the comment you left, I'm getting the impression that you haven't looked into everything that the Windows RSS platform will offer. I think you'll be surprised at the number of features it will offer, and the ability of third-parties to use the platform in useful ways.

Bug with back button

ANT — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:13:19 GMT

Hello,

While surfing mainly on forums, the back button doesn't work properly or
even sometimes doesn't work at all (always grayed)

http://forum.mess.be
http://www.foobar2000.org

but you must be aware of that :-)

re: More on Simple List Extensions

Lordmike — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:12:15 GMT

Who is making IE for pocketpc? If not you guys, then do you know what blog I can turn to?
I use Windows Mobile 5. :)

re: More on Simple List Extensions

ieblog — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:54:25 GMT

Ant,

Yes we know about the issue but you should go to the IE Feedback site that I blogged about recently if you want to search on known bugs.

Lordmike,

The mobile group does the IE for the PocketPC. The IE team is not involved in it. As far as I know, they don't have a blog.

- Al Billings [MSFT]

re: More on Simple List Extensions

carloshm — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 10:35:14 GMT

maybe you can find information at blogs.msdn.com/iemobile and at blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile

re: More on Simple List Extensions

carloshm — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:06:41 GMT

maybe you can find information at blogs.msdn.com/iemobile and at blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile

re: More on Simple List Extensions

EricLaw [MSFT] — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:58:29 GMT

@carloshm: Thanks for the link!

re: More on Simple List Extensions

Albert G — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:37:26 GMT

RSS is an old standard, yes.
I know that maybe it's quite old-fashioned, but it's a good idea imho.

re: More on Simple List Extensions

rssreader — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 07:17:17 GMT

Why am I getting this error:

Internet Explorer does not support feeds with DTDs.

Seems very fishy that the feeds on VMWare corporate site all have this error.

re: More on Simple List Extensions

Jack Bauer — Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:44:00 GMT

> Seems very fishy that the feeds on VMWare corporate site all have this error.

Hmmm yes, it's a conspiracy.

...or maybe all the feeds simply have DTDs which IE7 doesn't support?