Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

re: General Suggestion, Bug

Clinton Godlesky — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:45:59 GMT

How about a grouped Favorites options. Say you can set a favorite which is 4 tabs at once. So when you select the favorite, all 4 tabs open.

Also, in Beta 3, after some use, the browser will not allow you to browse anywhere. It says everything is unavilable. If I close the browser and open a new one, it starts working again.

Sorry for posting here, but I had no luck trying to comment through the beta website.

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

Aaron Sauve [MSFT] — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:21:18 GMT

We actually have the ability to open any folder within your favorites in tabs. You can right click on the folder and choose "Open in Tab Group", or click the blue arrow that appears to the right of the folder when you hover over it. Both of those should work!
- Aaron

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

Tim — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:29:47 GMT

Any chance, that in future, all screenshots posted to this Blog, are done by someone that knows what they are doing?

Posting such pixelated images here, just adds to our disbelief that IE7 is going to fix all the problems in IE6.

If you expect us to look at IE7 as a professional product, the images you post should appear professional also.

Mind you, thanks for not using jpegs anymore. At least we don't suffer with those here lately.

tim

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

netweb — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:55:35 GMT

Hey guys....

I have some of the intranet settings enabled for IE7+ on Vista 5472 and after some standard ActiveX add-ins from Microsoft and Adobe I end up with a warning box when ever I open IE7+ with the "Windows host Process (Rundll32)" pop up.....

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6120/run32dllws9.png

Any chance you could explain a little more about this...???

Cheers,

Stephen

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

Ervin J — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:58:02 GMT

My workaround for the RoboForm Toolbar was to disable IE7. ;)

You see, between these two, RoboForm is far more useful and addictive.

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

the monkey — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:51:02 GMT

and somehow, i have no problems whatsoever!!!!!

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

hAl — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:48:59 GMT

Why not have IE detect it it has shutdown improperly (like MS word can) and when restarting after a crash ask the user to startup normally or with Add-ons disabled or with settings reset.

Would it be possible to built in detection of what add-on causes a crash ? This could highly improve stability as it seems most crashes are cuased by failing 3rd party software ?

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

AJenbo — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:06:14 GMT

If you do implement crash detection then i would also be nice if it opted to open all the pages you where on at the time of the crash.

The images for this artical are preaty horible, it looks like they where saved as jpg's using mspaint and then converted to png, probably by some upload tool, it's sad but it's not somthing that will make me switch away from IE, after all tech guy's aren't grafic guys so it could be excused you, altho you should probably be supervised when posting on the blog :P

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

genn — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:21:42 GMT

Can you add a function in the right click menu--"This Frame>Open Frame in New Tab/Window" like Firefox and Opera have?

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

Russell Chappell — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:17:49 GMT

I seem to have come across a bug which displays sporadic images in the wrong place. I have a table which is approx 8 columns and 230 rows. Using the 3 end columns to display a certain images the rest displaying text. IE7b3 seems to get confused to which image to display and I end up having the wrong image rendered for the first 20 to 30 rows. Checking the properties of then image it says its using the image displayed, but looking at the code it should be a different image.

Is there any quick fix available or do I have to wait for the next BETA?

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

ha — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:04:47 GMT

please increase ability to save any web page.

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

Charles Belov — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:23:56 GMT

Russell, you might want to include specific URLs that display the problem. I disabled all add-ons and still have problems with several pages on my site, including the following example pages:

http://www.sfmuni.com/cms/mms/rider/access.htm
http://www.sfmuni.com/test_cb/newsite/mms/rider/access.htm

They work fine in IE6 Win, but IE7 Win renders them as dozens, if not hundreds, of screen-widths wide, such that accessing some of the content requires about a dozen screens worth of horizontal scrolls right.

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

EricLaw [MSFT] — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 02:41:42 GMT

@Russell: I saw this problem intermittently on some Beta-3 builds, but I haven't seen this happen on any post-Beta-3 builds. I suspect you'll need to wait until RC1 for a fix.

@Genn: It's trivial to add a menu extension to open the current frame in a new window. If you're a developer, check out http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/browser/ext/tutorials/context.asp. If not, there are downloads available that offer this one.

@AJenbo: Tab-recovery is a good idea and something that we'll be looking at for a future release. For now, this is something that a plugin could readily provide.

@hAl: If the callstack points to the faulting plugin, IE will identify the faulting plugin and you may even see a WindowsUpdate page providing more detail about the failed plugin.

@netweb: This is called the "Elevation" dialog. The problem is that you have an addon (perhaps the Adobe BHO?) that runs rundll32 on browser startup. This requires a prompt for security purposes, because this rundll32 call executes outside of Protected Mode.

@Tim: Sorry about the pixelated images, but I think it's a mistake to conclude anything about IE7 from the quality of the quick little snapshots used on the blog. I hope you'll agree that there's more important things for us to concentrate upon?

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

EricLaw [MSFT] — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:40:53 GMT

Charles:

The problem is the % margin inside the table. The work around should be something like this:

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

Charles Belov — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 03:38:50 GMT

Eric, fix confirmed, thanks!

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

leveling — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:19:54 GMT

I think this is a good fix, hope u can do better.

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

Lars — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:27:55 GMT

I am trying to enable my add-ons but the manage add-ons option is greyed out. Any suggestions on reolving? Thanks.

Lars

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

gflorek — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:43:40 GMT

Works the BandObjets in IE7?

sample: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/programmersguide/shell_adv/bands.asp

Grzegorz

re: Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode

EricLaw [MSFT] — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:31:59 GMT

@gflorek: Yes, band objects, toolbars, menu extensions, and all other IE6 extensibility points still work in IE7. There should be no significant changes.

On Windows Vista IE7, you will need to ensure that your addons work correctly in Protected Mode, which restricts where your add-ons can write to the disk and registry.

@Lars: Are you on a domain where group policy might have disabled manage addons? Is just the menu item grayed out, or can you get to it using Tools | Internet Options | Programs?