Meet Some of the IE7 Team

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John — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:46:55 GMT

Is IE still based on Spyware or Mosaic?

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Fduch — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:17:28 GMT

It's not based on Mosaic nowadays.

And as far as I know it was never based on Spyware.

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DMassy — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:36:42 GMT

I'm not sure there is any of the old spyglass code left anyware in the product. In IE4 the HTML rendering engine was replaced by a completely new engine (Trident) which has since been subject to much arhcitectural change and development. We've moved on a long way since then :)

Thanks

-Dave

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EricLaw [MSFT] — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:32:33 GMT

As I understand it, there is no Spyglass code in the IE7 product. The vast majority of it was obsolete and removed in prior releases and the last vestiges went away for IE7.

Full nameof IE7

ADAXL — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:57:00 GMT

A question on nomenclature. What's the official full name of IE7? "Microsoft Internet Explorer" or "Windows Internet Explorer"? The title bar suggests the latter.

PS: I posted ths question before, but that was in a thread with 70-odd pstings, so people probably didn't see it.

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EricLaw [MSFT] — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:31:16 GMT

@ADAXL: The official name is shown in the About box: Windows Internet Explorer 7

feedback

Ewan — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:50:01 GMT

Hi there, I just wanted to share my comments on IE 7 via my blog ewanme.net. The review can be found here: http://www.ewanme.net/?p=27

Thanks,

Ewan

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Amsterdam Martin — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:01:56 GMT

Congrats with the final version. You can see that the people who worked on it wanted to deliver a first class product. I have used Firefox for the last 2 years exclusively, but I want to give the new IE a fair chance, so I will not complain about the different user experience, probably something you get used to (although for now I really don't like the different position of the stop/refresh button, but maybe it will grow on me).

Two things that I do complain about and are the reason I won't switch are:

1) Speed, especially AJAXy websites, but also normal websites. It takes a long time to see a page, much much longer than Firefox

2) Live bookmarks, why didn't you copy those from Firefox? It is my main interface for browsing the web and watching news. It's so much better than opening a side panel and after clicking a title going to a page with the feeds that are much to verbose, so a few items already make it necessary to scroll.

All other experiences where mostly positive, but those two are the reasson I won't switch. I guess the speed issue will get fixed, but is this the most we can expect from RSS feeds in IE? Or are there plans to make it better?

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hapbt — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:51:14 GMT

The comments on slashdot are rendered incorrectly in IE7 :) Conspiracy theories anyone???

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Aedrin — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:58:07 GMT

"1) Speed, especially AJAXy websites, but also normal websites. It takes a long time to see a page, much much longer than Firefox"

Try Opera for page displaying.

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Aedrin — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:05:06 GMT

"The comments on slashdot are rendered incorrectly in IE7 :) Conspiracy theories anyone???"

Or just plain inadequacy?

slashdot.org:

Line 1687 column 6: end tag for "DIV" omitted, but its declaration does not permit this.

mr

david — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:40:56 GMT

why had a download manager not been included

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hAl — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:50:12 GMT

Nice work on the tin foil in Katya office guys. The payback threat sounded ominous though so I suggest you guys do not go on holidays anymore (ever) !!

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Xepol — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:45:05 GMT

I would like to congratulate the team on the good work in IE7 itself - the quality of the install process which drives me to rant psychotic about the install process itself not-withstanding.

I was pretty, uh, "rude" I suppose about the whole install process and I just want to make sure that the whole team understands that it is the install process itself that drives me mental, not the product itself once installed - I have loved IE7 since the very first beta, and I found the process (excluding the install, of course) of its development to be very fulfilling.

I WILL be installing IE7 on the other machines on my network (and grinding my teeth the whole time) - the fact that I will go through an install process that bad to get to the product should say something about IE7 itself.

Remember, IE7 is great, but people have to get through the install process first to get to it....

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Wild Ted — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:16:11 GMT

All good stuff, but I don't see any captions with the video. This is a really basic accessibility issue and not that difficult to do.

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John — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:57:50 GMT

I'm wondering why, since for probably tens of thousands of people the RC1 release broke the ability to change icons on desktop URL shortcuts, that wasn't fixed in the Final Release?

Did you all think that wasn't important enough? Or that we all wanted that generic e on our desktop instead of what we'd put there ourselves?

IE 7 & outlook

Black Dove — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:10:07 GMT

why IE7 dosent work with outlook

when i setup ie7 any ver. beginning after beta 1 and also the final i cant use outlook with my hotmail account and it keep asking me for pass and never log in !!!!!

what can i do ?

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Mister McDugal — Sun, 22 Oct 2006 02:55:58 GMT

IE7 is decent; nothing to write home about really. The interface is not very configurable, and feels like opera almost. The Internet Options haven't changed much either.

I was very happy with IE3 back in the day, it felt like a more complete product. I feel disappointed in IE7. Maybe they'll get it right again with IE8 in another 7 years.

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fums — Sun, 22 Oct 2006 04:18:39 GMT

i used windows 98se/2000 with SP4 + RollUp/XP with SP2/Vista RC2, used ie 4/5/5.5/6/7 and they all SUCKED

that's way i switch to gentoo linux

main reasons are that it's faster (on amd x2 dual core 4800+ and windows is still slow :S and yes i used an anti-virus/firewall/and other anti-crap, i think norton it was), i only install the apps i want (not like windows where you are forced to use crappy app like ie and outlook), and most of all it just works (no blue screens of death or slowdowns after leaving comp on for 7 days)

also less security risks

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mark — Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:29:57 GMT

As a developer I applaud your advancements toward css compliance. As a UI person I've got to ask, "Are you kidding?" Why did you give up positionable menu bars? And why do I have to be on a page with an RSS feed to see the RSS tab light up? An RSS tab should be able to stay visible and notify the user if a new item is available. And what's up with the RSS reader format? It is so unusable you might as well have left it out. Font sizes too large, spread across the whole page... I secretly believe you want this version to fail so you can get out of the browser business because it makes you no money. Good luck!

mark

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John — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:40:50 GMT

IE7 is the best browser ever made!!! And, yes I am just kidding...

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