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Will Peavy — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:21:26 GMT

This looks like a good set of features. But, I think the question that practically everyone who reads this blog wants to know is - "When will Beta 2 be available?"

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ajo — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:09:48 GMT

This looks cool. Is this also configurable with group policies.

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Tony Chor [MSFT] — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:12:15 GMT

@Will Peavy:

As I mentioned a while back,(http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/06/03/ie8-beta-2-coming-in-august.aspx) we're planning on releasing beta 2 in August. There are still a few days left...

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Tony Chor [MSFT] — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:14:58 GMT

@ajo

Yes, like most IE features, IT Admins can configure and control these features via Group Policy.

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Daniel — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:19:37 GMT

@Will Peavy: Roumors say it's August 28th. And since the team still says it's August, this must be it. I doubt a release will happen on Friday.

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Xepol — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:26:45 GMT

Am I the only one who thinks that this is perhaps a huge waste of time doomed to substandard success and spectacular failure as people realize it only "sort of works" thanks to endless ways to work around it that will inevitably be found over time?

Dropping the referal URL in requests to third party sites would be more effective and less work intensive (and also doomed to failure sooner or later).

I think this is time that could be better spent on standards adherance instead. Browser privacy is an illusion, why give people a false sense of security when the inevitable PR backlash is just going to bite you in the ass? Foolish, I think.

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Chris — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:03:52 GMT

@Xepol

I thought the same thing. I saw that there were 2 new posts and thought awesome since their last post about CSS maybe they have some updates.

Was I completely wrong? I am deeply sadden, I hope that only 1 person on the IE team worked on this otherwise, it was a complete time waster on their part.

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David — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:17:39 GMT

What is it with saving screenshots as jpeg and then converting them to png?

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impressed user — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:51:11 GMT

my concern is that one is not able to determine at a glance what mode one is fully using. my suggestion:

- let the address bar say INPRIVATE when browsing inprivate and not using blocking

- let the address bar say INPRIVATE BLOCKING when browsing inprivate and using blocking

- let the address bar say BLOCKING when browsing normally (not inprivate) and using blocking

- let the address bar say nothing when browsing normally (not inprivate) and not using blocking.

I have not seen the beta; if this has already been done, bravo!!!

Now, it would be nice if "inprivate blocking" was just called "blocking", to avoid confusion with simply "inprivate".

If you are concerned that "idiots" might think their browsing is somehow blocked when they see "BLOCKING" then call it "INPRIVATE PLUS".

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Jeremy — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:03:26 GMT

I don't think a big blue button announcing to everyone that you're using enhanced privacy settings is very private. I believe Mozilla Firefox 3.1 will include a similar, but less conspicuous feature and will be released around the same time at the end of this year.

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hinop — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:06:17 GMT

Please help me to understand this clearer,

"InPrivate browsing" is not "Anonymous browsing" , and "inPrivate blocking browsing" is just "partial anonymos browsing? since if the users dont have any history then they can not browse the web anonymously?

So there is no way to browse the web anonymously? and this new "inPrivate" feature is only good when using strange computers?

Thanks

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Ert — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:12:47 GMT

"Have you ever wanted to take your web browsing “off the record”? Perhaps you’re using someone else’s computer and you don’t want them to know which sites you visited. Maybe you need to buy a gift for a loved one without ruining the surprise. Maybe you’re at an Internet kiosk and don’t want the next person using it to know at which website you bank."

You know as well as I do this feature is built for porn :)

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Mogden — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:13:20 GMT

So web site developers will not be able to rely on commonly used Javascript files (like Google Analytics) any more? One would have to proxy it through your own site to avoid the 10-site filter. Ugh.

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Viktor Krammer — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:17:54 GMT

Congratulations on the new privacy feature. The new in-private and blocking modes are certainly a first step in the right direction and will help raise broader awareness about privacy issues on today's Web.

Please also provide new APIs for add-on developers such as notifying add-ons about when inprivate mode is on or off, and allow them to enalbe or disable it programmatically.

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limit concerns — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:20:48 GMT

like browsing history - where you can adjust the length of time history is kept (default is 20), does one have the option of adjusting the inprivate blocking default of 10 sites?

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JAB Creations — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:23:12 GMT

It would be nice to see an option to delete *just* third party cookies as well as to block all third party cookies.

A nice advanced feature would be to have preferred/popular sites that a user visits have their cookies protected from *general* clearing of private data. For example when I clear my cookies I have to log back in to DevNetwork, Hotmail, Yahoo, and some other sites I frequent. It would be nice to have IE realize this and help me avoid the task of signing back in (for general clearing of private data).

IE8 and Privacy

New Zealand IE8 Taskforce — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:33:43 GMT

  IE 8 Beta 2: Privacy is about more than cookies As others have written here before, users should

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MusK — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:07:11 GMT

“Preserve Favorites website data” should have an option to choose which web sites to preserve data from, not only the ones from "Favorites".

What if I don't want to preserve data from a site or two that's in my Favorites (and still keep data from other sites in my Favorites)?

ex. I would like to have "http://blogs.msdn.com/" in my Favorites but I want to delete browsing history from this site and at the same time - preserve data from "http://www.microsoft.com/" which is also in my Favorites folder.

InPrivate Blocking

Lawrence — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:22:19 GMT

"with InPrivate, IE automatically blocks sites that have “seen” you across more than ten sites."

Does this apply to blocking third party scripts, like let's say Google analyatics ...?

Could be a lot of sites no longer can get stats ...

IE8 to get privacy features

infoworld.com — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:27:22 GMT

Microsoft on Monday described some new privacy features that will come with IE8, the next release of

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Master Devwi — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:44:47 GMT

Cool. I like the new feature added to Delete Browsing History. It would be even better if you could specify a specific folder in your Favorites, if you wanted to.

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Arieta — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:02:14 GMT

"preserve favorite website data" sounds like an incredibly useful feature for me, and so is the "InPrivate" browsing. Though, for the latter, I won't need it at my home computer, while guests I visit often tend to not have the latest IE installed. Hopefully IE8 will be distributed through Windows Update faster than IE7 was.

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Tom — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:23:03 GMT

The "Delete Browsing History" tweak is a nice feature which reduces user pain points. HOWEVER, the rest of the dialog is a list of things to delete! If you skim the dialog too quickly, you could get the checkbox backwards and do the opposite of what you intended.

Actually, the option should not be a checkbox at all -- it should be a radio button set. One is "Apply to all website" and the other is "Apply to all websites except Favorite websites". The use of the word "Apply" would make it explicit, and reduce Boolean misinterpretation. ("So, um, I'm deleting only cookies for private websites, or everything, or only unchecked items for private websites?" A bit like the Austin Powers time travel skit or the Chewbacca defense -- but some users are still going to be susceptible.)

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Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:26:29 GMT

Would this feature get around parental controls software?

Microsoft discusses first IE 8 Beta 2 feature: InPrivate Browsing

SuperSite Blog — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:20:50 GMT

I was under the impression that I was going to have to wait until Microsoft shipped Internet Explorer

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Tony Chor [MSFT] — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:23:50 GMT

No, the InPrivate features are disabled if Windows Vista Parental Controls are turned on for that user. This is not a way to circumvent Windows Parental Controls.

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Wraith Daquell — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:49:09 GMT

I am impressed by the new privacy features! They do give me certain misgivings, though; there are sites in my Favorites that I would like to have the cookies deleted from, and vice-versa.

One question: if I put a top-level domain in my favorites, will the cookie data for all the sub-domains be saved as well?

Good work, IE team! The future keeps looking brighter!

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dennis — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:28:27 GMT

Get rid of drive-by spyware installations and I'm all for IE any day.

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xvidivx's me2DAY — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:53:27 GMT

IE8 and Privacy. 오호~ IE8에서는 개인 정보 보호를 위해 InPrivate라는 새로운 기능이 내장되는구나. 이 기능을 활성화하면 새로운 쿠키, 히스토리, 임시 인터넷 파일, 양식, 비밀 번호, 검색어, 입력된 주소, 방문 링크 클리어.

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Mike — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:02:35 GMT

I guess if you can't beat Google, you can always just cut off their air supply by declaring them a security hole.

I'm disappointed by the fear Microsoft is spreading; these claims about 3rd party content are patently false, and Microsoft knows it. You can't follow someone around, or get a description of them just because of embedded content.

Any website using Yahoo's developer APIs just got screwed by Microsoft. Yahoo has been doing a great service with these APIs; allowing 3rd parties to use them for free. Yahoo can't track you or do anything bad because of this, and Microsoft bans it.

This is a thinly veiled attempt by Ballmer to use one monopoly to kill Google in another business.

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PatriotB — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:06:01 GMT

@Mike, Lawrence, Mogden:

From my reading of the blog, the blocking only takes place when the user is using InPrivate *Browsing*:

"InPrivate Blocking keeps a record of third-party items like the one above as you browse. When you choose to browse with InPrivate, IE automatically blocks sites that have “seen” you across more than ten sites. .... An easy way to think of it is that your normal browsing determines which items to block when you browse InPrivate."

I will admit I am confused though -- it seems like a lot of work, for something that only takes effect during InPrivate *Browsing*. What about the "subscriptions" -- are they still only for during InPrivate Browsing as well, or are they for all the time?

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Peter van Dam — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:44:16 GMT

Looks like their improving the UI in beta 2. I love the colors used for the tab-bar, however I do miss the favbar in this first picture...

But still, the best looking tab-bar design is Opera 9.5...

However, back to the subject. I really love this functionality, but is it possible as webmaster to require people to turn on this functionality?

For example, PayPal or an other very important site, feels it's a good security decision to have your cookies and stuff cleaned after visit, and that your system leaved no trace at all. Wouldn't it be great if they forward me to inPrivate automatically, so when I leave the site, my system is clean?

And with Vista folder recovery, how deleted are my temporally files after visit? Why are those pictures still being saved on my hard drive, and not in my memory? Private = Private, and not just in IE, I think....

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hAl — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:32:45 GMT

Do I understand correctly that if a site is blocked that has shown snippets on 10 or more sites that it is blocked from that time onwards also when you revisit those ten sites ?

How long is the memorylist for remembering those ten sites ?

Would it also block ads served up from 3rd party servers after having served ads ten times ?

(which a lot of us really wouldn't mind at all)

Does this feature block on domain level or subdomain level and if blocking on subdomain level how would it handle possibly generated subdomains like vbrefsdi.googlesyndication.com ?

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Pali — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:54:23 GMT

Kudos to you. Thanks for adding these features.

I hope they don't get dropped in the final release.

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Garth — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:19:50 GMT

On the whole, I think this is a good idea. Nice to see new features being implemented.

As many people above, I would be interested to know how it will affect things such as Google Analytics.

Google Analytics

ziro — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:06:17 GMT

You might as well have used 'http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js' for the example url.

Google AdSense for that matter!

Do you really think the type of people who read this blog are that STUPID?

Web people already have a large degree of disdain for IE, if this 'feature' blocks Analytics or AdSense, you're about to turn disdain into hatred. They are better offerings than yours, you're going to block them by leveraging your market share in OS, to distribute software that prevents their use.

This takes Microsoft's anti-competitive nature to a whole new level. Believe me, I would be saying the same if Google had a widely distributed (70% market share) browser that disabled YOUR widely used (>50% market share) analytics or ad software.

You're abusing your market position in operating systems to disadvantage competitors in internet advertising. Apart from doing things better than Microsoft, Google does nothing to hamper your efforts. That is competition, it's called improving your service to achieve market share, not shooting your competitors in the foot.

Developers use AdSense and Analytics in their day to day work, just like we have to support your bast*rd web browsers. You're going to create a full scale war against your browser now, not just activism. Rage swells. Developers around the world will start to bang drums to the same beat. You watch.

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crypt2121 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:42:34 GMT

Whatever anyone says about hitting Google is irrelevant - Privacy first.

And if it is targetting Google - BRAVO! That's giving the consumer what they want and playing hardball at the same time.

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crypt2121 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:42:37 GMT

Whatever anyone says about hitting Google is irrelevant - Privacy first.

And if it is targetting Google - BRAVO! That's giving the consumer what they want and playing hardball at the same time.

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Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:43:28 GMT

Mike & Ziro:

Where do you get this from? It's like you're reading this article from an alternate universe where 2/3 of it is deleted and what remains is "IE8...blocks...3rd party...content", skipping the part where it only works if you usually browse without this feature and then you specifically invoke a special mode for a relatively rare set of circumstances where you have a legitimate privacy concern.

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Fornax — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:45:07 GMT

@ziro

This 'feature' will block Analytics or AdSense or whatever that have been visited more than 10 times only when in InPrivate mode.

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eric — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:03:43 GMT

great feature, but how about performance?Firefox 3.1 is seven times faster than Firefox 3 as the outperformance spidermonkey javascript engine, so how about IE8?Ten times?

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SpliFF — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:05:38 GMT

* Why would you loudly announce to every 'shoulder-surfer' that the user has enabled privacy mode? You might as well slap a "terrorist using computer!" sign across the top for the same emotional effect on your users.

* Why an arbitrary limit on 10 remote files? Why not 1 or zero? Have you any concept of how this will affect technical support? "Sorry sir, you can't our site 11 times!"

* Have you considered the risk that you are implying a session is "private" when in fact you know that is lie (since business and government groups can buy or coerce site logs directly from ISPs)?

* Are you planning to add "Microsoft Corporation" as a default provider of, or exception to, "bad" sites?

* Why does InPrivacy(tm) require a trademark anyway? Why not InTabs(tm) and InMostlyStandardsCompliantMode(tm)? Seriously, if you start trademarking preference settings where do you stop?

You know this one time I almost believed you were planning to make a browser that wouldn't require special attention to fix its quirks. The previous posters was correct. We designers loath you and you keep giving us new reasons why.

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E.Fahd — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:22:00 GMT

Hey,

- This is great stuff but I have a serious question for IE Team : Can we expect to launch an InPrivate tab in "normal" session (ie with "normal" tabs) ?

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Arieta — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:40:22 GMT

The block only applies to InPrivate browsing, not regular browsing. And Firefox does block content too, it's called "adblock". You may have heard of it.

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FremyCompany — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:15:06 GMT

Content is only blocked if the user run IE in "InPrivate" mode. Common users will don't do that and Google Analytics will still work for these.

AdBlock (FF Free Extension) can be got on IE with IEPro (IE Free Extension). It's very similar but have only one lack : CSSFilters that AdBlockPlus have. But we're hoping an new adblock API for IEPro v3.0, taht will probably implements CSSFilters.

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bilbo — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:31:40 GMT

If this ends up blocking analytics, which are on the whole used for legitimate site marketing and design to enhance site effectiveness, efficiency, and visitor experience, I will be at the head of the mob to ban your sh*tty browser once and for all. This feature has nothing to do with addressing your privacy concerns REALLY. It's a thinly veiled attempt to abuse their monopoly to filter out competitive content while allowing their own through.

MS, try actually INNOVATING for once rather than copying your competitors and controlling your users. Your monopoly has slowed web progression to a crawl. I wish you'd die, we'd all be better off.

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bilbo — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:32:27 GMT

MS, try actually INNOVATING for once rather than copying your competitors and controlling your users. Your monopoly has slowed web progression to a crawl. I wish you'd die, we'd all be better off.

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E.Fahd — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:52:44 GMT

Hey,

@Arieta, FremyCompany,

- That's not my point actually. What i'm trying to say is : Can we have a window with InPrivate tabs AND regular tabs ? I mean in the same window.

Hope it's clear now :)

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hAl — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:15:19 GMT

@bilbo

Consider the fact that people might not want people to analyse their site behaviour and certainly not share that info with a third party like google.

And if they really wanted give info to suc third parties they can switch of InPrivate blocking.

And if you really want to analyse your visitors then use an analysing tool that originates from your own domain and not from google.

And btw bilbo, are you informing all your visitors that on your site Google is watching what the visitors are doing or do you provide them with and opt-in to that ?

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Jimmy — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:20:19 GMT

Just for anyone following the code sample... once again it contains errors...

This line:

Will fail in IE if there is any included script content after this tag.

Due to MSIE's Buggy DOM parsing in bug 153

http://webbugtrack.blogspot.com/2007/08/bug-153-self-closing-script-tag-issues.html

You need to ensure (to be safe), that ALL of your script tags are closed with a closing tag - not a self closing (or non-existent) close tag.

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Jimmy — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:24:49 GMT

Wow, just re-read that sample code... WT?

no double quotes on attributes, no closing title tag, no body tag, and the script tag (likely) belongs in the head.

Wow, you guys are just awesome at writing bad code.

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Block IE8 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:32:50 GMT

Oh Microsoft, Oh Microsoft. You keep shooting yourself in the foot.

I feel the sudden urge to develop code and have it implemented on sites to block any user using IE8. A few lines of Javascript and one frustrated consumer. Don't think Google would mind helping in campaigning this.

Just one more reason FireFox seems to be such a better browser.

Tracking a persons actions through a site is by no means invasive. No other information is captured except for what the browser can obtain which is at best IP address. Unless, they are submitting their information to a website or signing up for something. By which they are voluntarily passing information over for tracking purposes.

It is basically a site counter. I guess that little counter of visits on people's web pages is also an invasion of my privacy. It is the same exact thing.

Why do you consistantly put yourself at odds with other companies.

I am going to love watching this unfold.

Note now... users will be blocked from websites using IE8. It is our choice as a business to sell to who we want and it is your choice as a consumer to not be tracked. I wonder which one will win out.

Have fun.

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Satyajit Tambe — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:45:08 GMT

I would Love to see the Implementation of this Feature in Internet Explorer 8...

SO just four Days left in arrival of September.....I hope We will be able to get hands on BY August !!!!

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john — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:51:32 GMT

Thanks. I don't know much about IE8. My main hope is that it will adhere to all the CSS I always read about that says IEx has a quirk that requires X. I read it about other browsers sometimes, but since IE is the most used it is always there. I really hope IE 8 does everything everybody else does that goes with the standards.

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Jeremiah — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:35:44 GMT

This is an excellent feature. Don't listen to the Google apologists and people who value their business interests more than the privacy of consumers. This *should* put a big hurt on the advertising industry for building huge tracking databases and the associated behavior they've demonstrated by pushing the privacy line further and further back. They could have chosen to moderate themselves as an industry (something they always claim to avoid being regulated), but they've taken no serious steps to do so. Cross-domain tracking is wrong. If you need to serve up javascript from another site, you should proxy it with caching.

Besides, it just makes your site look stupid when it's slow because one of the third party script includes is slow.

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Ian — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:40:23 GMT

In contrast to most of these silly comments I have actually read the post and would like to say thanks. My only small wish would be to change the option to save all cookie information for sites in favorites to a site/site approach, however I can understand this may confuse less technical users.

Third Parties

Dan — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:18:10 GMT

Just reading the description of the IE8 privacy features confirms my belief that Microsoft products are becoming too bloated with features. Other browsers, like Firefox, focus on simplifying the user experience rather than making more features that operate in a complicated fashion. Still, the same Microsoft drones who continue to use IE products because they don't know any better will not understand how the Privacy features really work. If I have to browse normally (with no privacy) to generate privacy lists for use in Private browsing, what's the point? The one thing done right was to provide privacy subscriptions. If I used IE, I would subscribe to a list and then browse privately forever so that third-parties cannot track my browsing. I also agree with other comments: Where is the innovation Microsoft? Deleting browsing history/files is an old feature, even if you've added options to save favorites.

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Matt — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:43:22 GMT

another pathetically weak feature from the ie team.. way to go guys... NOT

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MasterPayer — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:45:31 GMT

"Note now... users will be blocked from websites using IE8. It is our choice as a business to sell to who we want and it is your choice as a consumer to not be tracked. I wonder which one will win out. "

--------------------------------------------

Simple. The costumer. Not a chance in hell that sites like amazon, bestbuy or newegg will block IE, the most used browser on earth.

On what planet are you living?

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MasterPayer — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:51:03 GMT

Oh, and, if you will close your site for a certain browser, do you really think, your customers who use that browser will change the browser?!

No way in hell. Unless you're amazon.

The internet is gigantic place. The next shop is only a few seconds in the search engine away, and it's vastly easier and more convenient just to click on the next link on the the result site of the search engine, than to change the browser.

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what are you thinking MS? — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:57:33 GMT

Consumers need to be taught to use the web wisely, not buy into all the unfounded paranoia that a pixel is a bad thing. The only thing that wins in this situation is ignorance you are enforcing.

Microsoft, what will you do when Atlas has problems because of your fear mongering? You bought them for a reason didn't you, and they use pixels don't they?

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DG — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:45:50 GMT

this is such an awesome feature :) keep up the good work IE Team

InPrivate Browsing

Teamzille.de — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:58:10 GMT

Die n�chste Beta-Version des Internet Explorer 8 steht vor der T�r und diese wird wieder einige interessante Funktionen mitbringen. Zur Zeit liest man �berall von InPrivate Browsing, einer Reihe von Funktionen, die den Schutz der Privatsph�re beim Browse

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Noname — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:09:14 GMT

I think these are some cool features but there's space to improve. Where does the magic number 'ten sites' come from? Let me decide the number, but don't put another undiscoverable setting on the awful designed advanced internet options page...

Also the 'InPrivate Blocking settings' dialog looks pretty unmaintainable. On the screenshot there's already not enough space. Imagine if there are more than a dozen items!

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Patrick — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:17:33 GMT

A lot of folks posting are thinking porn - but what about security in the workplace.

There are going to be some miscreants who will be doing things and going places with malicious intent - and they could be using "your" PC as a jump off point at night to do so...

It will be more than just for 'porn'.

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anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:18:47 GMT

when that beta will be released??

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:22:59 GMT

Are you kidding me?

This page has a tracking pixel!!!!! YOU ARE NOT SECURE!!! MICROSOFT IS TRACKING YOU!!!!

<!img src="http://c.microsoft.com/trans_pixel.aspx?TYPE=PV" width="0" height="0" alt="Page view tracker" />

So are you telling me you are going to block your own tracking? Block Atlas's tracking?

This is a sever short sited attempt to prey on people's ingorance and paranoia.

The ecommerce industry is going to love you guys.

By the way, didn't you already have this shot down in IE7 because of industry pressure?

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Microsoft Tracking — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:25:20 GMT

Oh wait found some more...

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if(document.cookie.indexOf(gFpc+"=")==-1){document.write("<SCR"+"IPT TYPE='text/javascript' SRC='"+"http"+(window.location.protocol.indexOf('https:')==0?'s':'')+"://"+gDomain+"/"+gDcsId+"/wtid.js"+"'><\/SCR"+"IPT>");}

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billybob — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:25:47 GMT

What about stopping random plugins from modifying the UA string. I see hundreds of UA strings with tracking UID's built in. Why would you need a cookie if you have that? Randomizing the UA string would be a better solution.

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wister — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:26:37 GMT

ziro says above: "if google had a widely distributed browser"... guess what? (it's firefox)

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Jim — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:27:15 GMT

Please add Inprivate as a command-line parameter so that it becomes easy to launch an inprivate session from shortcut on the desktop or from the Start menu.

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Confused — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:06:35 GMT

So, let me see if I understand this...

If I am the 3rd party site... and I use JS to ask for some basic info...

screen size, rendering mode (quirks/standards/IE8's attempt at standards), location.href etc.

Am I going to start getting errors?, fail silently?, will this result in the dreaded Operation Aborted fiasco?

Lets not forget that part of GOOD site management/scaling is using a CDN (Content Delivery Network), thus CSS, JS, and images are often pushed out to a "3rd party" (but owned by you) server, that serves up these files on a cookie-less web server. Are my JS/Images going to be blocked now "in the name of security"?

I don't think this whole thing was thought through.

The (very) simple solution to private browsing... is to flush the cache/cookies/etc. for that browser window's "session" on exit. Allowing for the user to "keep" some info is certainly welcome (whitelists, prefs) but blocking 3rd party content is not acceptable.

re: IE8 and Privacy

UGH — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:15:40 GMT

Damn you guys, can you not make a browser that breaks CSS every single time?????

Have you guys even visited your own site with your Beta Browser? It completely breaks it. Bang up job yet again.

At least I would release a product to the public that would actually work with your own website. Absolutely amazing.

DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS BROWSER!!!

Save yourself time and a headache.

re: IE8 and Privacy

it_guy — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:30:42 GMT

What do you bet Microsoft created a way for them to continue collecting stats on everyone while trying to shut down all of their competition. This to me sounds like Microsoft using its monopoly on Windows and IE against all of its online competitors for advertisements, and user tracking data. While I'm sure they have had all the time in the world to alter their online products to work with this new "feature".

re: IE8 and Privacy

Compugab — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:41:05 GMT

And here come the conspiracy guy

re: IE8 and Privacy

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:55:51 GMT

@BWAHAHAHAHAHA:

Nowhere does it say that tracking pixels are always unacceptable. This is a mechanism for disallowing 3rd-party tracking pixels if the user so wishes and deems them unacceptable.

It's like saying it's hypocritical to have parental controls and then sell something that has sex or violence. It's just not.

re: IE8 and Privacy

MattCrow [MSFT] — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:04:08 GMT

@Jim: There is a cmd line parameter... launch iexplore.exe -private

re: IE8 and Privacy

kalem13 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:42:02 GMT

It disapoint me how much people just don't read what has been written. Let me dumb things down for everyone :

IE will NOT block third party content BY DEFAULT. It will ONLY do so if the user ACTIVATE the feature. No, it won't break google adsense or google analytic. Why? Because 80% of the IE user will not know about this feature (think of someone like your mom who still doesn't know how to make a shortcut on the desktop), and in the 20% who will know about it, 99% will leave it OFF, because it will most surely break a lot of website.

The autodelete history feature look good. Of course, everyone know it will be used for adult website but it should be very usefull when using shared computers.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Eduardo Valencia — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:59:57 GMT

Where is the download manager??!!!!!!!!1

re: IE8 and Privacy

Town Idiot25 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:04:46 GMT

Am I able to set it as instead of "Delete all browsing history when exit" to only a few things (not all of them) to be deleted when exit?

re: IE8 and Privacy

D34 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:34:16 GMT

Is it possible that a website logs my remote IP-address when surfing in private mode?

re: IE8 and Privacy

ABC — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:34:41 GMT

Safari had "Private browsing" for quite a while...

re: IE8 and Privacy

Les — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:43:14 GMT

Are people these days incapable of reading and comprehending what text says?

The tracking prevention only occurs in IN-PRIVATE mode. Furthermore, people who value their privacy probably aren't crazy about tracking crap to begin with (e.g. Google Analytics - which I kind of despise since it slows down page loads, as do those wonderfully unresponsive ad-serving servers).

This feature sounds great. Keep up the good work, and good luck on full CSS 2.1 compliance.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Scias — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:14:19 GMT

Microsoft, talking of privacy !! rotfl !

Microsoft is the biggest and more dangerous spyware of all the computing...

Firefox and Free Software rules !

inPrivate herramientas de privacidad en Internet Explorer 8

NotasD — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:55:06 GMT

En el blog de Internet Explorer 8 se muestra InPrivate, el nombre que se le dió a las herramientas de privacidad en ese navegador y que, al menos por arriba, son mucho mejores que cualquiera que haya en el mercado ahora.Básicamente hay un par de cosas

re: IE8 and Privacy

ArielX — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:04:16 GMT

IE sucks! basta de copiar las cosas de otros navegadores como firefox, ejemplo: el panel de eliminacion de cookies, paginas visitadas, etc!

re: IE8 and Privacy

Andy Zeigler [MSFT] — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:16:30 GMT

@Town Idiot25: Yes - since we changed to checkboxes in the Delete Browsing History UI, you can now save your preferences for what you want to be deleted. Selecting "delete on exit" will use these settings. Just make sure you select the stuff you want to delete in delete browsing history and you'll be good to go.

@D34: Absolutely. InPrivate is not an IP address anonymization solution. There are interesting projects out there that tackle this, such as Tor and Anonymizer.

@Confused: InPrivate Blocking will only block 3rd-party items that the *user has browsed* on *at least* 10 different 1st-party sites. Common cookie perf optimizations will be unaffected.

NoScript

Mikko — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:45:10 GMT

NoScript in Firefox does it's job perfectly :-P

re: IE8 and Privacy

Alex Forster — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:47:39 GMT

What about Google Ads? They're everywhere. Would I stop loading them after I download ten?

re: IE8 and Privacy

Alex Forster — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:47:47 GMT

What about Google Ads? They're everywhere. Would I stop loading them after I download ten?

re: IE8 and Privacy

Justin Haygood — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:54:19 GMT

Does this blocking actually **block** the script from running? This could be detrimental to certain advertising industries. The company I work for uses JavaScript hosted on our servers to serve our ads. We don't set a cookie, so we can't track specific people as they browse different sites. We do have tracking pixels, but they track impressions (so we can get paid), not users.

FWIW, we do advertising on MSN as a third-party rich media provider, and we're based out of Atlanta :).

re: IE8 and Privacy

Vik — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:37:04 GMT

Fantastic features. am a firefox user but looking forward to IE8 specifically for these features.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Trevan — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:38:17 GMT

Is "InPrivate Blocking" only enabled when "InPrivate Browsing" is enabled? Or can you enable "InPrivate Blocking" by itself?

Also, have you thought on how this will break sites that use javascript libraries stored in central locations, such as Google's JSAPI (http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlibs/) and AOL's iamalpha (http://dojotoolkit.org/2006/01/31/dojo-iamalpha-and-cdns)? If the InPrivate Blocking is turned on, any sites that use the libraries hosted on those CDN's will be pretty broken.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Tor — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:32:04 GMT

Why don't you work with the people at Tor? They make a fine plugin for firefox for true private AND anonymous browsing. Why create the wheel?

Offline browsing

Justin — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:07:59 GMT

Will IE8 PLEASE address the issue of offline browsing? It was removed for some unknown reason. Surely it can be returned - it can be such a useful utility if you are going to be offline.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Who Cares — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:23:23 GMT

This feature is really geared towards one audience, the porn users. The kids and ashamed husbands who want to hide their behavior from their wives or husbands depending on lifestyle choice.

Let me explain something to you idiots about tracking pixels. For one, I have worked one a project FOR Microsoft that is a pixel tracking system. I was paid to develop the very technology they are intending to block. Irony at it's best.

So to my point...

Tracking pixels track user trends on their experience with a website. By no means is that an invasion of privacy. It is an objective, anonymous snapshot on how users navigate through your website.

The only time they capture personal information is after you have VOLUNTARILY submitted your information.

I work in the industry and they are spinning this horribly. To the point that they will be hindering their own tracking.

Honestly, it is a long shot that this makes it into an actual browser. Trust me on this one.

You consumers and web users are insignificant in this fight. By no means does your opinion matter or your wants or needs drive this decision. You are meanlingless and by no means do you have influence on this. Trust me, Microsoft could care less about you. They have proven that time to time. Who does matter are the companies that actually have the money and power to influence this.

Do you actually think companies will allow this to happen? Granted it is an "opt in" technology but it castrates any marketing trending of website interactions. It would be like completely shutting down Nielsen.

You actually think a short sited security "enhancement" is going to be allowed to be implemented that would actually cause people to lose jobs?

You dumb people can keep ranting about this all you want but by no means do you have an idea about the industry. You are probably the porn users wanting this to be implemented to mask your peverted tendencies that society has made you believe that it is a shameful act of pleasuring yourself.

There is no such thing as privacy idiots. Your internet provider tracks everything you do. So why do you think blocking some third party pixels actually gives you privacy?

Go play in traffic and make the world a better place.

Good luck Microsoft on this endeavor. Let the lawsuits fly.

re: IE8 and Privacy

MysterMask — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:59:23 GMT

Who cares for IE? IE is irrelevant these days. Yes, it's still used by many people who are not able to upgrade to a better browser (either because they don't care, have not enough skills or because the company has locked down the OS).

Anybody else already uses FF, Safari or Opera or some sibling. And it's easy to see why. E. g. those privacy features are already part of Safari since Version 2. Firefox has plugins with similar functionality. All of them are more standard complient (e.g. Safari 4 beta renders Acid3 without a hitch). All of them have better support for associated technology standards like SVG, PNG, Javascript. None of them has such a clunky interface as IE. All of them are cleary seperated from the OS, so they can be deinstalled and replaced by something else, if the user wishes to do so. Time to drop IE, Microsoft. It's not going to get better ..

Microsoft makes privacy a priority in IE 8

SecGeeks — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:26:15 GMT

0 vote Microsoft is planning to add a significant number of privacy enhancements in Internet Explorer 8, including a new private browsing mode called InPrivate. The list of new features addressing privacy concerns is impressive and reflects the growi

re: IE8 and Privacy

Viz — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:27:21 GMT

Is this a ploy to hurt Google's ad business? The features and their description 'sounds' very nice, but the algorithms being used to implement [block third party sites that you came across TEN times? who came up with this number and how?] reek of laziness. I'll wait for FF to implement these features in a better way.

Vie privee et Internet Explorer 8 : nouvelles fonctions

Stanislas Quastana's WebLog — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:29:07 GMT

L'équipe d'IE 8 vient de poster des informations sur les nouvelles fonctions d'IE 8 liées à la confidentialité

Vie privee et Internet Explorer 8 : nouvelles fonctions

Stanislas Quastana's WebLog — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:30:56 GMT

L'équipe d'IE 8 vient de poster des informations sur les nouvelles fonctions d'IE 8 liées à la confidentialité

re: IE8 and Privacy

Aaargh! — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:37:27 GMT

On your next round of xeroxing features from other browsers, please make sure to copy the "standard compliant render engine" feature.

Microsoft dishes dirt on IE8 '*** mode'

Siljaline's Blog — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:01:34 GMT

'Off the record' browsing is go Microsoft has outlined the new privacy tools available in its

re: IE8 and Privacy

jimk — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:43:41 GMT

If IE8 adversely affects the economics of the web, e.g. analytics, advertising, or affiliate marketing, then the web will ban IE8. Its as simple as that.

You can't change the Internet's business model and expect to survive. You may control the OS, but you don't control the web.

Get a f*ing clue.

re: IE8 and Privacy

YoYo — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:07:48 GMT

Or the web will start to ban..... analytics, advertising, or affiliate marketing....

This is great news!!!

re: IE8 and Privacy

Cosay Nold — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:40:09 GMT

We are talking about a privacy mode that is only in effect should an end user decide to enable it. Safari has a very similar feature and I never heard this kind of reaction to it. I can only conclude that some of these reactions have more to do with Microsoft than the feature itself.

Speaking personally, this feature will not induce me to leave Firefox, but I do applaud its inclusion into IE8.

Cookie Leashing

Eron — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:10:31 GMT

Wait a minute, I thought that cookie leashing was in effect for cross-domain scripts/images/etc, meaning that woodgrove-int.com would +not+ be in a position to track the user.

Secondly, does "block" after 10 hits mean simply "block the cookie", not "block the content"? I find that more likely.

Privacy Features in IE8

Joshua — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:14:28 GMT

Did you know that the new Beta 2 release of Internet Explorer 8 includes some new features to help protect your privacy?

Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

IEBlog — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:15:09 GMT

We’re excited to release IE8 Beta 2 today for public download. You can find it at http://www.microsoft.com/ie8

Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2 Now Available

Me about things... — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:10:33 GMT

digg_url = "http://blogs.msdn.com/pblog/archive/2008/08/27/internet-explorer-8-beta-2-now-available.aspx";digg_title

re: IE8 and Privacy

Big Feature Request — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:04:19 GMT

Let it be possible to right click a link and open InPrivate!!!!

re: IE8 and Privacy

Todd — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:18:49 GMT

I'm very fond of Safari's "Private Browsing" feature, and I'm sure it will eventually become a standard feature in all A-grade browsers.

Leave it to Microsoft to pervert it into yet another clunky, in-your-face user experience with anti-competitive measures masquerading as user-centered features.

Part I: Better Everyday Browsing

IEBlog — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:55:07 GMT

Hi, my name is Paul Cutsinger and I’m the Lead Program Manager for the IE8 User Experience. As Dean mentioned

re: IE8 and Privacy

scoville — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:06:58 GMT

I think this really comes down to the fact that people are ignorant of what pixel tracking is.

It's really a non issue when considering privacy, and anyone who knows how it works would never confuse it with cookies.

Pixels only track your path when browsing through the specific sites they're implemented for. No personal information is passed and no tracking exists between non-related sites.

It sounds like the IE8 developers need to learn how the web works before they continue to create "features" for browsing it.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Jerk Mehoff — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:48:59 GMT

This isn't about your privacy on the internet, you dillholes... this is about your privacy on a shared PC. THINK WHACKING MODE.

Consumers Begin Using Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2

US ISV Developer Evangelism Team — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:17:33 GMT

The next beta for Internet Explorer has been released for broad distribution to the public, according

Open Source, Technical Skills, and Tor, oh my!

Sobaan — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:55:08 GMT

Isn't this basically automating what someone with essentially no technical skills could do by themselves and declaring it "new"? That is disgusting. (Although, to be fair, Mozilla seems to be doing this as well. Hopefully, though, they won't be as bad and will say it just automates.) And if I want true anonymity, wouldn't I use Tor or TorK? Konqueror can spoof user-agent strings from a simple menu. And couldn't I, very easily, delete all cookies except for certain sites?

I wonder how many of the people posting comments here work for Microsoft, as it seems that Microsoft has no worries about paying people to go onto forums and IRC.

I also wonder if Microsoft actually did any of the work for anonymous browsing, or if someone found it on Sourceforge.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Trevan — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:38:53 GMT

I just browsed around with IE8 beta 2 and had a very difficult time trying to get things blocked by inPrivate Blocking. I surfed a bunch of sites that use doubleclick and then flipped to inPrivate Browsing and then looked at the list of things that are being blocked by inPrivate blocking. Doubleclick didn't show up at all.

So I'm wondering what is the actual criteria that it is testing for. Do the domains have to be exact (so b.a.com and d.a.com would not be considered the same)? Do the file and path have to be the same (so a.com/tracker.js and a.com/new/tracker.js would not be considered the same)?

re: IE8 and Privacy

Leechael — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:46:18 GMT

I think InPrivate Blocking is bad for some pulic CDN, and some photo sharing sites may be hurts from this.

If a cracker, hacks more then ten sites then adds a link to microsoft.com for every pages in these sites, and some user selected blocking automatically. Is this a bad situation for microsoft.com?

re: IE8 and Privacy

Mark — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:36:57 GMT

Wow... this should be interesting when it breaks shared hosting of JQuery and other libraries.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Steve — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:33:13 GMT

If everyone is, supposedly, so paranoid about cookies, then why not just provide an option to encrypt them instead of tossing the baby out with the bath water with confusing multi-mode / quasi-private browsing and such? Keep it simple.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Paul — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:22:16 GMT

Just one thing: why not make it possible for the user to choose to make InPrivate the default browsing mode? I may want to be InPrivate all the time, for example. At the moment I have to through several steps: 1) Open a brower 2) shift-ctrl-p 3) go to where I want because instead of going to my home page in InPrivate mode it goes to some page that talks to me about InPrivate which I don't need (certainly not more than once!).

re: IE8 and Privacy

Geld Lenen — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:21:15 GMT

Lol, the criticism. I like it, but Microsoft is only trying to create a better browser!

re: IE8 and Privacy

kukuxklan — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:49:10 GMT

How safe is this InPrivate browsing for me as a home/corporate user? Are forensic utilities and procedures able to reveal my browsing habits after enabling InPrivate browsing? I am pretty sure InPrivate option won't be able to remove all the data stored in IE. Or would it?

re: IE8 and Privacy

Easy Access — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:07:48 GMT

Add InPrivate to the Start menu.

Suggestion, Create a folder called IE on the Start menu that contains:

- IE (normal mode)

- IE (No Add ons)

- IE (INPrivate)

- IE (Help)

Really this takes 10 mins to add to the install routine!!!

re: IE8 and Privacy

skribb — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:17:59 GMT

I bloody KNEW it was too good to be true.

A newspaper I read (a Swedish one, Dagens Nyheter), made it sound like InPrivate was actually anonymous browsing (using words like "invisible" and "anonymous").

I am saddened.

re: IE8 and Privacy

em — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:27:13 GMT

Hello,

thank you for great job. IE looks really nice now. Just one thing, please implemet an option to use InPrivate blocking also in normal browsing mode too.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Anton — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:30:54 GMT

Hi,

I'm on Beta2, but InPrivate Blocking is greyed out. I can't figure out why?

re: IE8 and Privacy

Anton — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:36:51 GMT

Figured it out from the post right above mine. It is not available except as part of the wider InPrivate.

Love IE8 so far. Thanks!

re: IE8 and Privacy

Hope you don't mind not knowing who reads your blog — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:06:53 GMT

since your own blog uses Webtrends you too are breaking your 10 site rule

var gTrackEvents=0;

var gDomain="m.webtrends.com";

var gDcsId="dcsrubpmj00000oqcq95ilr3l_8q8i";

var gFpc="WT_FPC";

</SCRIPT>

<IMG ALT="" BORDER="0" ID="DCSIMG" WIDTH="1" HEIGHT="1"

SRC="http://m.webtrends.com/dcsrubpmj00000oqcq95ilr3l_8q8i/njs.gif?dcsuri=/nojavascript&WT.js=No">

</NOSCRIPT>

re: IE8 and Privacy

Sam — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:50:27 GMT

All this commotion just because Microsoft effectively rolled Firefox's Adblock and/or NoScript extension into it and made it easy to activate. Guys, these threats were obvious from day one. You can't complain just because it has been made easier for consumers to take advantage of your threats. I'd like to see the same campaign if Firefox included Adblock by default (which I doubt it will).

But at the end of the day, should I be more concerned about my relatively small ISP, which is protected by my local laws, or ginormous Google, which is governed by foreign laws (for most people anyway)?

The only privacy I'll be getting from this feature is from friends, family and acquaintances. Which is useful, but I'm guessing it isn't what those who read this blog really want privacy from.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Mark — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:21:50 GMT

I installed IE8 on Vista Home Premium. Everything seems to work fine, but I can't get the InPrivate Browsing to start. I followed all the information on the help screen. When I open the tab, I click on theb Start InPrivate Browsing but nothing happens. The InPrivateBlocking menu item in the safety menu is greyed out.

Does anyone have a solution, hint, or have the same problem? Thank you for your help.

mark

Undecided (Allowed)

Dave — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:36:55 GMT

What does "Undecided (Allowed)" mean for InPrivate blocking. In the screenshot you show, sites have more than 10 sources, but are not explicitly blocked - what activates automatic blocking?

re: IE8 and Privacy

rajesh — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:49:40 GMT

I have installed IE8 on Vista Busines X86, but i don't get Inprivate browsing, it is lways disabled.

Vista Business doesn't have parental controls then what is the reason ??

It works fine on Vista Busines X64

re: IE8 and Privacy

Otto Lopez — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:47:44 GMT

I find InPrivate browsing useful and your reasons very good:

...Have you ever wanted to take your web browsing “off the record”? Perhaps you’re using someone else’s computer and you don’t want them to know which sites you visited. Maybe you need to buy a gift for a loved one without ruining the surprise. Maybe you’re at an Internet kiosk and don’t want the next person using it to know at which website you bank...

But I think, you leave off some ones:

Maybe you are a Terrorist planning an atack on US soil, and don't want the FBI or HLS ruin your suprise. Maybe you are a child molester and don't want to get caught sending nasty pictures, that can ruin the surprise too.

Every one know the consecuences to go public, we live in a linked world and if you want privicy do not use the public services. What we need are better tools, what you need is to fix your products bugs not create new ones.

Google Chrome

Florian's weblog — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:45:01 GMT

Google presented today a comic that described their project for their new browser which will be available

Google Chrome

Florian's weblog — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:00:42 GMT

Google presented today a comic that described their project for their new browser which will be available

re: IE8 and Privacy

weberra — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:27:45 GMT

how to start IE8 direct inPrivate. from an icon direct into inPrivate, without using strg+umschalt+p

re: IE8 and Privacy

weberra — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:27:59 GMT

how to start IE8 direct inPrivate. from an icon direct into inPrivate, without using strg+umschalt+p

re: IE8 and Privacy HOW TO ENABLE InPrivate by Default!

Informer — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:31:13 GMT

Simple add -private to the end of a shortbut for IE8 and it will start as InPrivate. If you want it to start at your homepage instead of the InPrivate autopage write "-private http://live.com" for example to have Live.com as your homepage.

re: IE8 and Privacy

Ayenonomous — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:14:21 GMT

This is a great feature, but I'd like an option in IE to always run in InPrivate mode and have the exception/command be to turn it off. The ignorance of what is going on under the covers on the Web has created a massive threat to privacy and we need the browser to let us automatically protect ourselves.

[OFF] Chrome :: o novo browser do Google (Cool?!!?!?)

Mirrored Blogs — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:54:00 GMT

Corpo: Olá pessoal, tudo bom? Este post é totalmente off-topic, mas demonstra uma iniciativa minha em

re: IE8 and Privacy

Peter — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:12:24 GMT

My last ISP had a feature where the account holder could log on at the ISP website and view a history of sites visited.

In this case, you would be giving people the impression their tracks were covered when in fact they could easily be seen.

This could ruin innocent peoples' lives!

Introducing the IE8 New Tab Page

IEBlog — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:06:09 GMT

Hello everyone! One of the features we improved in IE8 is the ‘new tab’ page, which is the page you see

Introducing the IE8 New Tab Page

No1 Microsoft Fan — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:14:45 GMT

Hello everyone! One of the features we improved in IE8 is the ‘new tab’ page, which is the page you see

Browsing in Private: Incognito Modes Are Only the First Step

ReadWriteWeb — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:30:15 GMT

As more and more users awaken to the fact that their every step on the net can be traced, browser developers have started to incorporate private browsing modes into their products. Google Chrome has an 'Incognito' mode, Safari has 'Private Browsing,'

The IE8 IEAK

IEBlog — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:27:20 GMT

Hi, my name is Jatinder Mann and I work on the Internet Explorer Administration Kit (IEAK) and Group

Internet Explorer Browser User-Agent String Problem

deedee.brainstream.net — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:57:58 GMT

Internet Explorer Browser User-Agent String Problem

User Experience Changes since Beta 2

IEBlog — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:21:37 GMT

Since the release of Internet Explorer 8 beta 2, we’ve listened, watched and learned a lot about how

Suggested Sites & Privacy

IEBlog — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:28:40 GMT

The IE8 feature Suggested Sites helps you discover related sites that can be helpful to get more information

IE8 Security Part VII: ClickJacking Defenses

Блог команды разработчиков Internet Explorer 8 — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:20:51 GMT

Защита от C lick J acking-атак в IE8 В связи с разработкой Internet Explorer 8 наша команда разработчиков,

IE8's new-tab page makes good use of blank space

TechBlog — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:56:37 GMT

I have to admit, so far I'm not a big fan of Internet Explorer 8, the next version of Microsoft's Web browser. I think it lives up to most of the complaints about the previous versions of IE - slow,...

Защита от ClickJacking-атак в IE8

Блог команды разработчиков Internet Explorer 8 — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:40:09 GMT

В связи с разработкой Internet Explorer 8 наша команда разработчиков, занимающихся вопросами безопасности,

Защита от ClickJacking-атак в IE8

Блог команды разработчиков Internet Explorer 8 — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:10:20 GMT

В связи с разработкой Internet Explorer 8 наша команда разработчиков, занимающихся вопросами безопасности,

Internet Explorer Browser User-Agent String Problem

deedee.brainstream.net — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:56:22 GMT

Internet Explorer Browser User-Agent String Problem

deedee.brainstream.net — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:41:57 GMT

Internet Explorer Browser User-Agent String Problem

Internet Explorer 8과 프라이버시(privacy)

IE8 팀 블로그 — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:22:58 GMT

이 글은 Internet Explorer 개발 팀 블로그 (영어)의 번역 문서입니다. 이 글에 포함된 정보는 Internet Explorer 개발 팀 블로그 (영어)가 생성된 시점의

Privacy Solutions Series: Part 3 - Internet Explorer Privacy Features

The Progress & Freedom Foundation Blog — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:49:56 GMT

In this installment of our Privacy Solutions Series, we'll be taking a look at the privacy-related features in the most popular browser in use today, Microsoft's Internet Explorer. Specifically, we'll be examining the most recent version of the browser,

Suggested Sites & Privacy

Блог команды разработчиков Internet Explorer 8 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:01:51 GMT

Рекомендуемые сайты и конфиденциальность Функция IE8 под названием Рекомендуемые сайты (в оригинале Suggested

Internet Explorer 8 erschienen

Pixelfolk — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:35:08 GMT

Mit dem Erscheinen des Internet Explorer 8 befindet sich der Microsoft-Browser erstmals wieder auf Augenh�he mit der Konkurrenz. Der InPrivate-Modus zum Schutz der Privatsph�re gilt als herausragende Funktion. F�r Webdesigner ist vor allem die verbesserte

IE8 on Windows 7: The New Taskbar

IEBlog — Mon, 11 May 2009 23:55:08 GMT

Hi again! I’m Helen Drislane, a Program Manager on the IE team and I will be discussing how IE integrates

IE8 on Windows 7: The New Taskbar

Блог команды разработчиков Internet Explorer 8 — Wed, 20 May 2009 18:39:30 GMT

IE8 в Windows 7: новая панель задач Добрый день! Меня зовут Хелен Дрислейн (Helen Drislane) и я являюсь

Think of the children!

IEInternals — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:59:26 GMT

Another question from the audience today: Q: I like IE8's InPrivate Browsing feature , but I'm worried