The IE8 Smart Address Bar Part II: A Few More Features

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Darren Neimke — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:26:32 GMT

Great stuff. One issue that I'm having is that my Search Provider doesn't seem to be returning suggested results into the Quick Pick results. For example, if I type either of the following:

In the Address bar - '? xbox'

In the Search box - xbox

The Search Suggestions returns the following:

'No results'

re: The IE8 Smart Address Bar Part II: A Few More Features

Troll — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:29:24 GMT

Are you planning to update this blog to have a visual recognition system for posting in order to avoid all the "pingback" stuff ? I guess these guys are looking for a better ranking in search engines and advertising by the same way.

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Seth [MSFT] — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:34:16 GMT

@Darren: This sounds like there might be a problem with your search provider. Try changing to a different provider that also supports suggestions. You can find more search providers from the IE Gallery (http://www.ieaddons.com).

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Darren Neimke — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:39:59 GMT

@Seth: I've just cycled through the 4 default providers:

Live - doesn't provide results

Amazon - doesn't provide results

Google - DOES provide results

Wikipedia - doesn't provide results

re: The IE8 Smart Address Bar Part II: A Few More Features

Darren Neimke — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:42:32 GMT

@Seth: sorry, I submitted too early. I've also just replaced my Live Search provider with the one from the gallery and no change.

Do you know how I might debug/repair this? :-)

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rad — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:32:33 GMT

In IE How do i prevent ISP program from forcing me to use their own search provider. I'm stuck with a crappy search

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rad — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:39:31 GMT

yes i have netzero yahoo search on smart address bar and in the search box i have live search. I want live search in smart address bar but the netzero program have no option to change search.

Beta 2

Will Shaver — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:28:27 GMT

Really enjoying beta 2 of IE8, many quality improvements over beta 1.

I like the different color tabs for site groups. Can we get certain domains to stay the same color if possible during one session. Frequently when browsing a site and pulling up results on a separate tab the tab colors will cycle through several different colors.

Just remember the last color used by that domain for that session. If it isn't available, get the next one. :)

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Sebastien Zimmermann [MSFT] — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:12:42 GMT

@Darren: Hi. Try closing IE, checking in task manager that no iexplore.exe processes are running (alternatively, log off then on again), then restart IE. Please let us know if this fixes your issue.

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Sterling — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:11:01 GMT

IE Team,

This post is the best since the announcement of IE8 Beta 2 being available for download!

Just a few minutes ago I started to search from the Smart Address Bar (I knew this feature was available before) but I didn't know that I could also use great new features such as visual search from the Smart Address Bar. Great!

I love the Tab/keyboard tip! It works great in solving an issue I had in that whenever I hit Enter from the dropdown list in the Smart Address Bar, it would instead of displaying the Favorite's URL, it would display the path to the shortcut in my hard drive. I really hated that!

Finally, the post also solved another issue I was wondering about: why IE was displaying entries from History, Favorites and Feeds after I had installed Windows Search, but would not if I uninstalled it. I'm not sure I like this feature but, we'll see...

Excellent post guys!

PS I hope you'll make an IE8 Quick Reference Guide like you did with IE7 - http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/attachment/715071.ashx

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Soum — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:30:22 GMT

"With Windows Search installed, this will show you your ‘top’ sites from each group – the places, sites, and Feeds you read, select, and visit most often. Without Windows Search installed, this will show you your ‘most recently used’ list of History and Favorites."

Isn't there a way to get the "most frequently used" listing rather than an MRU list? I don't want a site I visited during a random browsing session to clog up the list. And please break into categories (History, Bookmarks, Feeds etc). Like the "View by most visited" option in History, only presented much better. And please enable middle click in the address bar dropdown so that links open in a new tab.

And is there any way to NOT have local items clogging up the History? The "My Recent DOcuments" menu (XP) and the "Recent Documents" smart folder (Windows Vista). Both are pretty handy. So why do I need a similar list in my browser?

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Darren Neimke — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:45:39 GMT

@Sebastian: IE restart did the trick. Cheers!

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Real Estate — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:24:35 GMT

Great work guys. Really enjoying beta 2 of IE8, many quality improvements over beta 1. Thanks a lot.

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V4BO — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:58:20 GMT

I want to hide a favorite website plus it's history from smart address bar and windows search. This is something FF3 never included and some user was upset about it.

I notice in screenshot shown here that the NBC icon is displayed. Use different icon when user type in smart address bar.

Pressing Shift+Enter too early

Thomas — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:01:44 GMT

I have noticed that after a while you learn that some common sites that you visit will be the ones available through shift+enter. This then becomes a nice shortcut. For instance, I just type "reader" and press shift+enter to go to Google Reader. However, I have found that sometimes it takes a short while before the list comes up and I press shift+enter too early. What happens then is that I attempt to go to "http://reader", which is not what I wanted.

Wouldn't it make sense to either postpone the action of shift-enter or make nothing happen if you press it too early? If you actuall want to go to the url you have entered, you can always press just enter instead.

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PatriotB — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:35:43 GMT

@Soum -- it does show "most frequently used" -- provided you are on Vista or have Windows Search installed. It's not really practical (or performant) to try to get most frequent if you don't have that information indexed, so it makes sense that it's only available with Windows Search.

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Alex — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:13:42 GMT

cool. The question mark works in IE7. Didn't know :)

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Soum — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:51:18 GMT

Sorry, my bad. I didn't realize I had Windows Search not running. So no wonder I didn't get the grouping feature in the address bar dropdown.

But the other requests still stand: make the entries in the address bar dropdown middle clickable - so that they can be opened in a new tab. And not include the local desktop items in the history list. The local items "pollute" the list and more often than not pushes the URLs out of the Top 5 list (and cluuter up the Top 20) list. Same with feeds. There is already a section for feeds, so why do we need them duplicated in the history?

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Sam — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:45:46 GMT

This sounds very cool and everything ... BUT

Don't you think that it kinda mimics Firefox 3 address bar? and since it does, why are you making all that fuss about it as if it was a breakthrough that no other person ever thought about ... I think it's time IE team started inventing original ideas of their own ... firefox is way ahead of you guys ;)

... just thoughts

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Sam, you Firefox fanboi — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:28:25 GMT

Gee Sam,

Don't you think Opera 9 released this feature before Firefox did?

And so it does, isn't it fanboi-ish of you to claim that Firefox released it first?

So by your logic, I think it's time the Firefox team started inventing original ideas of their own...

And you should stop being a fanboi ;)

... just thoughts

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Tim — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:25:11 GMT

I forsee a huge issue with abuse here.

If I was "naughty" (I'm not, but many are), I would now start publishing a pile of content on the web that was bogus. For every common keyword that users might search for (xbox, ipod, car, house, etc.) and either have images that match the keyword, but link to pages with no relation (e.g. p o r n pages or v i a g r a pages). Or worse yet, use the naughty images instead... so when a child goes searching for "barbie" or "lego", they get a thumbnail list of the "dark" side of the Net.

I'm not sure how this feature is implemented, but it just cries out to be abused. Favicons for the sites in question would be a much better option.

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Max — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:08:45 GMT

"we’ve found that it’s the address users are looking for over 2/3 of the time"

That's a great statistic. Unfortunately, it's also very deceptive. It makes it sound like for anything you type, 2/3 of the time IE will give the "correct" suggestion. It's more likely that 2/3 of the testers simply kept typing until the autosuggest finally showed the suggestion they wanted.

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PatriotB — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:12:19 GMT

@Tim -- The images are coming from the search provider that is being used, thus you should only install and use search providers that you trust.

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Christopher Vaughan [MSFT] — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:36:59 GMT

Max, that's true, but isn't that how it's supposed to work? You have to type to get where you're going. Why is it bad that IE8 is helping those users out? And IE8 does provide a way for users to get what they're looking for without typing anything (just click the dropdown arrow).

I think what's interesting is that it's more likely that this means that 2/3 of the time, the user knows where they're going (because they typed enough to get their hit on the list), and 1/3 of the time, they're searching for something, but they can't remember what. We've tried to make IE8 great for both cases.

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hAl — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:13:07 GMT

Firstly when I installed IE8 the in IE7 already default present Live Search was listed as having suggestion enabled.

No suggestions however.

Removed and readded Live search as provider and now it says that suggestions are not even available.

That is just terrible.

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Orl — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:29:42 GMT

It seems like you have done a great job on the smart address bar, but I would like to have my list of previously visited sites back like in IE7, instead of just 5 in IE8 beta 2.

Is there anyway I can disable the smart address bar, or at least customize it so I can get a longer list of previously visited sites?

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Kin — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:09:30 GMT

I really miss the Domain History in the address bar. Basically I want MORE listing of my the domains I visisted, instead of the current few. May be simply I don't know where to set that. If so, please do tell. Also I would like to easily get rid of the various sections such as Feeds and Favorites.

Viewing page source with the X-UA-Compatible HTTP Header

Esben2000 — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:02:48 GMT

This is a question to the IETeam

This has nothing to do with this post ("Address bar"), but I don't know where else to write it.

First I would like to say that the new IE8 Beta 2 is REALLY great! And I'm looking forward to the final release.

But I have a big problem that I hope is just a bug in the Beta version.

In my company we have started using the X-UA-Compatible HTTP Header with IE=EmulateIE7 on all pages. But now when we view the page source ("View source" from the context menu) the source is not the same as the source send to the client? The source you see has all tags in uppercase and most values in attributes are not quoted? What happens? Is this going to be fixed in the final release?

Viewing page source with the X-UA-Compatible HTTP Header

Esben2000 — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:07:54 GMT

I have just seen that you seem to have the same problem here on this blog. If I view your html source in Firefox the code is nice with lowered tags and attributes quoted but when I see the source in IE8 beta 2 the tags are all in uppercase and attributes are often not qouted?

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someone — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:07:46 GMT

Awesome this will replace my gl (Google's I'm feeling lucky) search URL shortcut I created till IE7. Now only if the keyboard tip would also stick. Give users a choice. If they expand it, it means they want to see it expanded every time. Does the visual search work with image searches?

Also, this won't affect the shell/Explorer's inline autocomplete right?

Best of all, the relevant/applicable smart address bar functionality should make it into Windows Explorer's breadcrumb bar in Windows 7.

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hypotheek — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:25:39 GMT

Fabulous replacement for the long bar, great work guys. But what i do miss is the domain History in the address bar. Is it possible coming back? Or was it just me that is having that problem? Regards, Bob

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Kin — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:19:14 GMT

I failed to mention that because of the domain history in the URL bar (even though only 5), I switched back to using IE8 instead of Chrome, even though it's really much faster. It's a habit that's ingrained by many years of surfing. Please don't take it out; or at least let us set the # of domain history entries.

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Christopher Vaughan [MSFT] — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:49:21 GMT

Tim - PatriotB is correct, the images are provided by the search provider. Your standard providers (Google, Live, Yahoo) will filter out spam/porn, etc for you.

Orl, Kin, & hypotheek - Thanks for the feedback, we'll consider this post-Beta 2.

Someone - We'll consider allowing the keyboard tips section to stick open post-Beta 2. Our Visual Search feature was designed with image searches in mind - try it out! None of these changes affect the shell's inline autocomplete feature. To answer your last point, we can't talk about Win7 features at this point in time.

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Jon — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:29:01 GMT

I run Windows Server 2008 (yeah, as workstation) and suggest does only work with google and no images like your screenshot (I've tried the same query)

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AngelOchoa — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:01:52 GMT

I understand why you use the windows search but been an external application it tends to be very slow sometimes, perhaps you could have some kind of "search cache" that gives you a fast-first result that could be enhanced when the results from the windows search arrives.

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NoBar — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:41:46 GMT

Search bar's Live Search Suggestions always says "No results" for me. I installed over a pretty default install of IE7 on Vista. My provider, unmodified, is "Live Search (Default)", and I have no other options.

It hasn't worked on any of the five machines I've installed IE8 on so far.

I'm in Australia. Bet it's a feature.

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Jan — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:03:23 GMT

The ? operator is nice, but I would like to be able to specify an operator for each search provider I have installed.

goog <Search term>

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Larry M. — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:27:28 GMT

how can I TURN OFF the autocomplete suggestion?

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