Where is the Messaging and Security Feature Pack?

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Jason — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:01:30 GMT

This is exciting news!

Do you have an AKU number for the MSFP?

Unfortunately Q1 2006 could mean Q4 2006 for some users. Just think how long it took some OEM/operators to bring the update with Windows Media Player 10 Mobile...

I believe I read in some Microsoft blog that Windows Mobile 5 would include a feature to enable Microsoft to update the OS easier without the OEM having to retest and rerelease everything.
What happend to this?

re: Where is the Messaging and Security Feature Pack?

jasonlan — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:47:08 GMT

Hi Jason - AKU 2.0 is the update for MSFP.

Q1 2006 is the Operator availability :)

Windows Mobile 5 has Image Update which is the mechanism that provides up updates but it does not bypass the OEM/operator - it does allow them to distribute updates to the OEM for different compnents without the need to reflash/reload the entire OS

re: Where is the Messaging and Security Feature Pack?

HookEm96 — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:02:54 GMT

You are right about there being a lot of confusion - generated mostly from the Microsoft Exchange website I think. The marketing material for Exchange 2K3 SP2 makes many claims of functionality without stating that MSFP is required.

re: Where is the Messaging and Security Feature Pack?

exchguy — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:06:22 GMT

I welcome the MSFP update next year, however the negative of having to wait for OEM/Operators for software updates of devices is always a scary proposition because they aren't in the business of providing software updates. They'd rather sell you a new device with the right software already there. The question of support on existing devices is also difficult and something most carriers would rather avoid. This is why OS upgrades for phones are rarely provided.

Plus, carriers and OEMs are in the business of selling new phones and voice/data services do not want to be in the business of helping end users upgrade ROMs on their existing phones.

I really hope that for future versions of Windows Mobile, that there becomes a better way to easily update add on software rather than having to be bound by what the carriers or manufacturers allow. If BB is able to upgrade software/capabilities on their devices without waiting for carriers, Microsoft should be able to do as well.

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leigh — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:32:48 GMT

I've just got my Orange M5000. I really really hope Orange upgrade it when they've finished testing the MSFP otherwise I'm NOT going to be a happy bunny. My M5000 is part of the 'intended' push email 'client' I hope to offer to my customers as a BB alternative.
Orange better not let me down - OH sorry Leigh but you have to buy the M5001 !!!!hahaha

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Neil — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:06:29 GMT

I think you are right Jason, the info that was released on the Microsoft web sites about EXsp2 was/is rather misleading as to what is available now and what needs the MSFF pack.

Also there is very little info on how to setup AS4.0 for direct exchange sync and how to get around the issues with certs/2FA.

And why oh why is it a problem to get it working if you have forms basied auth on your OWA, surely MS could have sorted that out in EXsp2 rather than let busnesses which would be interested in MS mobile over Blackberry flounder in a information black hole.

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Satpal — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:51:53 GMT

Thanks for the note about MSFP, I was one of those that was just about to send you an email and ask about availability ;-)

Can anyone point me to weblink that compares what you can and CAN'T do with Exchange SP2 with/without MSFP?

I sell mobile email solutions (inc BlackBerry and any other email system) for a living and a lot of customers ask for details on the Exchange SP2 push email solution. Seems that, from the notes from above, Microsoft are pitching vapourware and that by leaving the MSFP pack in the hands of the OEMS, they may never see the light of day.
Also, aside from the SP2 infrastructure upgrades, some users are spending £100's on WM5 devices now because of Microsoft's active pushing of Exchange SP2 features.. but they will not be guaranteed that the device will not be redundant in Q1 2006, if the OEM decides to sell a newer model with MSFP instead.

I must say that I was impressed by the demo's at the Technet show in London, and I think that my customers will have been equally impressed by the literature being sent out by Microsoft.

Last word .. If MSFP is not out yet.. How are Microsoft demoing push email on their devices (Orange SPV M5000 etc)?

Many thanks for all the posts here .. I have found them very helpful.

re: Where is the Messaging and Security Feature Pack?

HookEm96 — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:44:09 GMT

Check out this web page for a matrix on what is required to get what functionality:

http://www.kommarsolutions.com/page.php?id=20

re: Where is the Messaging and Security Feature Pack?

jasonlan — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:59:44 GMT

Hookem96 - that's actually a matrix that Stan Foster and I pulled together back in August - great to see you leveraging it http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/archive/2005/08/30/458000.aspx

re: Where is the Messaging and Security Feature Pack?

jasonlan — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:02:52 GMT

Satpal - let me answer some of your questions:

1) Microsoft have an internal build of MSFP that we are using on non-Orange devices. They are devices from HTC direct.

2) MSFP is not vapourware! It is going to be available early next year - all OEMs are massively enthusiastic about the opportunity it represents for them.

3) For devices that are in Market already - I'd check with your OEM/Operator if they plan to offer an upgrade.

Remember from next year every device will have MSFP integrated - it's just the gray area in the interim!

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Brice — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:36:20 GMT

If anyone is wondering... The reason carriers will actually be upgrading their devices this time is the extra bandwidth. Carriers realize that minute usage is only part of their money making potential.

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Tarek Haoula — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:59:19 GMT

Hi,

Do you think the upgrade will contain Compact Framework 2.0. It would be awesome if could be included in the rom.

Kind Regards,
Tarek

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Dyvim — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:31:04 GMT

Will there be any way for ISVs to leverage Exchange SP2 and MSFP to create 3rd party synchronization solutions? e.g. synchronizing Exchange information to applications other than the defaut Microsoft apps (Contacts, Messaging, Tasks).

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