Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

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re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

Jorge — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:45:53 GMT

How will Microsoft verify that the fix won't make anything break with the OEMs image?

The reason why it was a good idea to send the fix to the OEM was that then the OEM has to rebuild a new image and run through the logo verification, which lead to a more stable platform....

re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

jasonlan — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:42:17 GMT

Jorge - we would obviously test this solution before we distributed it. Similarly we would only provide an update to an area that would not be impacted by any OEM customisation.

re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

Tariq Bamadhaj — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:25:23 GMT

It is an interesting feature to have but I have not been able to connect to the server to check the status recently. If I do a hard reset on my device, it works again but I am curious as to why I am unable to connect to it otherwise.

Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

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Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

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re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

Jorge — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:38:54 GMT

Jason - I didn't mean that MS would not test the fix/change, I know that the testing is quite thorough before anything gets released.

But is it not a tricky thing to know which changes affects OEM customisations and which doesn't?

For example, a bugfix in DirectDraw might break the display driver since the OEM made a workaround for that specific bug?

re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

Exchguy — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:37:36 GMT

How is it that Microsoft continues to push everything device related down to the "carriers responsibility" for device updates/configuration when Apple is able to release regular updates to the iPhone even though iPhone is also supported by the carrier?

Something interesting to ponder.

re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

Pony99CA — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:55:05 GMT

Not interesting at all, Exchguy. Apple controls the software, the hardware and which carriers get the phone. They know exactly what hardware is there, what drivers are there and what carrier customizations they made.

Microsoft only controls the software and just licenses it to an OEM. Sure, MS sets some minimum hardware specs, but they don't control exactly what hardware each device has or which carriers get those devices.

That's a lot more complicated, wouldn't you agree?

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re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

JasperM — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:03:50 GMT

Also, from what I have heard from other chats with WinMo folks, the Update tool is not intended to replace AKU's. Which when I first heard about feature, thought that it might be intended to do.

Also, its important to note that unlike OS updates, the Windows Mobile Updates applied will keep even after a hard reset of the device, correct? As in the update goes into the actual OS (i.e. not like the Day Light Savings Time update for WM 5.0)

re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

Patrik — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:48:39 GMT

What many doesn't realise is that we still use networks that is very closed down to what terminals that are allowed to run for the big public.

In scandinavia an operator has the right to blacklist a terminal if they feel that this terminal with that gsm firmware (stack) isn't proper tested at their own test-facility. (what I know of).

So it is hard to go around the operators and directly from OS developer to release mode on a device.

re: Windows Mobile Update - what is it for?

Antony Gibson — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:58:06 GMT

An update that stays after a hard reset? That'd require patching of a ROM image area (CE or ExtROM) or perhaps storage on an external memory card. And seeing as how operator customisations aren't just in ExtROM (device drivers for example) patching would be messing with the operators packaging in the CE build.

I've been staying around a community that likes to twiddle too long haven't I?