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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Silverlight / Moonlight - Innovation and Interop</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/archive/2007/09/09/silverlight-moonlight-innovation-and-interop.aspx</link><description>Last week Microsoft announced that Silverlight 1.0 was being released. For those of you who may not be aware of what Silverlight is, you should go check it out at Microsoft.com. To quote the marketing pitch - Silverlight is, "a cross-browser, cross-platform</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP1 (Build: 61025.2)</generator><item><title>MSDN Blog Postings  &amp;raquo; Silverlight / Moonlight - Innovation and Interop</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/archive/2007/09/09/silverlight-moonlight-innovation-and-interop.aspx#4847653</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:51:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:4847653</guid><dc:creator>MSDN Blog Postings  » Silverlight / Moonlight - Innovation and Interop</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;PingBack from &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://msdnrss.thecoderblogs.com/2007/09/09/silverlight-moonlight-innovation-and-interop/"&gt;http://msdnrss.thecoderblogs.com/2007/09/09/silverlight-moonlight-innovation-and-interop/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: Silverlight / Moonlight - Innovation and Interop</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/archive/2007/09/09/silverlight-moonlight-innovation-and-interop.aspx#5078967</link><pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:05:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:5078967</guid><dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Matusow said:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My point is that the interoperability users will ultimately experience will not have come from a standard . &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;You are right. It comes from the documented formats. &amp;nbsp;Like, TCP/IP, ODF, Kerberos.. etc &amp;nbsp;etc&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; or from reverse engineered formats (see SAMBA, OpenOffice &amp;nbsp;MS .doc)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It will come from the idea that innovation is driving forward the technology,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; you are right... if it is based on documented formats, protocols.. In the MS case, this is far from the reality.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; and the businesses involved are finding ways to achieve interoperability via implementations, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; translation: we (MS) will decide who will get info HOW to implement certain format and protocol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;business arrangements, and IP agreements. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; translation: see above&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is too easy to fall into the myopia of interop=open standards. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;This is pure crapola. &amp;nbsp;Mr. Matusow. &amp;nbsp;What do you think, ___why__ is the TCP/IP protocol used/implemented all around the world ? &amp;nbsp; Because of business arrangements and IP arrangements between &amp;nbsp;parties ? &amp;nbsp; Wrong, mr. Matusow, very wrong !!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; Because of well documented protocol, is the answer. In my book, this is called real interoperability.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Real-world interop is going to come by keeping the full spectrum of possibilities in mind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;As usual, you are right again... if the formats, protocol are documented and available to the public for free. Of course, this is not true for MS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Puzzle for you:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why ALL UNIX variant (including Linux) can share their file systems with each other regardless of the vendor (AIX, HPUX, Solaris, Irix, BSD, Linux... and... surprise surprise &amp;nbsp;even MS Windows) ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;scroll down ..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;answer: because SUN published well documented NFS standard for free many many years ago. &amp;nbsp;Even MS benefited from it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the real meaning of &amp;nbsp;interoperability&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>