Microsoft Takes Next Step In Delivering Interoperability

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André — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:55:07 GMT

Of course a committment like this looks very nice to me but so far it is pretty empty. Is it a marketing wrapper or will it lead to tangible changes?

Microsoft Announcement on Interoperability | Dave Kelly :: Blog

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re: Microsoft Takes Next Step In Delivering Interoperability

Sam Hiser — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:16:33 GMT

Working hard for 2 years, Jason, and what -- please tell me what -- has changed?

You've merely moved the goalposts to Sharepoint | Exchange and created a committee. Oh, and given away specs to old, useless formats when the specs were already available.

(Well, *I* couldn't get copies -- but even your secretary knows I'm trying to put Microsoft out of business ;-)

I wish you luck next week at The Battle of Geneva (BRM). If you win there, you'll be unimpeded to Browser World War II -- where document interoperability is soon to be re-defined.

Congratulations on the right decision to get back in the browser business, but I wish your browser guys would respect W3C standards with just one ounce of sincerity. You're about to tell me that innovation is more important than interoperability ...

It's a hollow day, all tolled. I'm not impressed.

re: Microsoft Takes Next Step In Delivering Interoperability

orlando — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:58:26 GMT

stop with the "cheap" talking

make significant steps , example:

support ODF natively in Office 2007

port Office to Linux, etc.

re: Microsoft Takes Next Step In Delivering Interoperability

Anon — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:20:11 GMT

Very good!

Some things you may want to look into and improve please:

1. Why isn't Windows Live/MSN and its APIs included in the "high volume products"? Aren't Windows Live products and services used by millions and millions of people and what constitudes a "high volume product" exactly? Please:

A) Document the Live Messenger and Live Hotmail protocols too by including Windows Live products and services in your "high volume products".

B) Detail clearly how you are going to charge for the use of such protocols and online services.

2. When Ballmer says that Linux violates 200 or so Microsoft patents is he refering to the patents that will now be published as part of the protocols? Or, are there more patents that he has in mind that he hasn't talked about? Please make it clear which patents might be violated by Linux but are not covered by the new licenses which have just been announced and that companies can pay for. Not doing that will leave a burning question unanswered: "What is Ballmer refering to?"

I think it is fair if Ballmer got the information about the number of patents that Linux violates from Microsoft engineers that he should make public such information and offer licenses for all violated patents so that companies can protect themselves. If he knows then he should have detailed information yes? Then why not publish it so as to have cretibility?

3. Please also formulate a privacy policy which would cover all Microsoft offline and online products. In the same way that you will discuss interoperability through a forum, please add privacy to the list of the topics you will discuss with the community. This is because many Microsoft programs collect data on users actions through e.g. the Customer Experience Improvement Program and online services do the same. There appear to be inconsistent guidelines all around Microsoft on how to implement safe, EU law compliant, etc, data collection policies and user interfaces. For example, in Windows Media Player 11 the Customer Experience Improvement Program option is selected by default via a radio button together with a bunch of other options, in Internet Explorer it is hidden under the Help menu, etc. You need a more consistent and company-wide policy and user interfaces for getting the user's permission for collecting private information. For example, Vista has a yet different way of asking for users' consent to collect data and send them to Microsoft. So, please formulate, in the same way as you do with interoperability, a company-wide policy and standard user interfaces for privacy related issues and discuss the creation of a company-wide privacy policy for your offline and online products with your customers through the online forum.

4. Does document interoperability mean that Office Outlook PSD format, Office Publisher files' format and Access databases' format will be documented so that competitors and programmers will be able to read these documents directly? The fuss has been only arround Word, Excel and PowerPoint. But what about the rest? After all, Onenote also produces documents, with notes; Publisher also creates documents, even though they are publications. Why should they not be documented these formats? If you are promising something it should be for all Office products.

5. Although you might not be related to Dreamspark, the program that gives free software to students, please could you send them feedback and tell them to also add Windows Ce to the list of products they offer? On Channel8 they always have these nice presentations of hobbyists using Windows Ce but it is very difficult for students to get their hands on Windows Ce and so they do all their embeaded research on Linux.

Thanks.

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re: Microsoft Takes Next Step In Delivering Interoperability

hAl — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:34:00 GMT

Even Linus is positive

http://software.silicon.com/os/0,39024651,39170175,00.htm?r=1

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Matusow's Blog : Microsoft Takes Next Step In Delivering Interoperability

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