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re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

mat — Wed, 21 May 2008 23:23:45 GMT

Is there any chance, that the Mac Office Vesion will get ODF support too?

XPS and the Office Interoperability Announcement

Adrian Ford on XPS et cetera — Thu, 22 May 2008 00:54:19 GMT

Earlier today, the Office team announced that Microsoft will expand the range of formats supported in

Microsoft Announces Support for more document format Standards, including ODF

Eric White's Blog — Thu, 22 May 2008 01:13:01 GMT

Today, Microsoft announced support for more document format standards, including ODF, PDF, and XPS. Doug

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

Stefan — Thu, 22 May 2008 01:13:01 GMT

Yes, what about ODF in Mac Office?

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

Mitch 74 — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:20:14 GMT

Aaaah... Great :)

No, really, just great. Microsoft didn't do much right in my book since the release of SP2 for Windows XP in 2004 for 'free' instead of making it a new OS (it contained enough code overhaul to qualify), but this one is great.

Just one thing: considering ODF doesn't specify a particular macro language but defines a document object model, will we see the addition of a Starbasic interpreter in Office, or a link with the Jscript engine (for Javascript support), with IronPython (for Python support), or a Perl compatible interpreter?

Don't get me wrong: natively supporting ODF 1.1 is great (considering version 1.2 isn't final yet), I'm merely wondering about details in the implementation.

Another thing that makes me wonder is, how will the SVG subset of ODF will be supported? Can we expect some form of SVG (and MathML) support in Office 2007, considering those are (as far as I remember) explicitly cited in ODF?

Microsoft and ODF

Open Sources | Rodrigues & Urlocker — Thu, 22 May 2008 04:05:15 GMT

Interesting commentary from Microsoft's Jason Matusow and Doug Mahugh, and IBM's Bob Sutor on today's announcement that Microsoft will support read/write to ODF 1.1 in Office 2007 SP2. Jason writes: "For years, I have vocally disagreed with the notion

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

Wayne — Thu, 22 May 2008 06:55:25 GMT

Jason,

Several questions:

1) Will this also affect the next service packs for Office XP and Office 2003?

2) Which version of the PDF spec will be supported?

3) Is Microsoft considering support for the Apple IWork formats?

4) Is Microsoft considering a setting that will allow the user to have Office output multiple formats, i.e. select PDF, MSXML, HTML, and ODF as the formats all documents are to be saved in, and do it with one click?

5) If 4 is implemented is Microsoft going to add a feature so that Office will not pop up the "Office may not save properly in this format" nuisance box? (You should add this anyway)

And this one is off-topic, but when are you going to get rid of the damned dog? Your users are smarter than marketing thinks.

Wayne

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

hAl — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:19:48 GMT

[quote]Another thing that makes me wonder is, how will the SVG subset of ODF will be supported? Can we expect some form of SVG (and MathML) support in Office 2007, considering those are (as far as I remember) explicitly cited in ODF?[/quote]

ODF does not really support SVG. It has SVG compatible items mostly but also non SVG compatible items. I would not expect documents with drawing stuff in them to be very interoperabel.

And supporting MathML would be easy as even the current Office version has already got an XSLT schema translator from Office OMML to MathML (of course loosing any other office information within the OMML because MathML cannot handle a mixed format).

ODF în Office 2007 SP2

Weblogul lui Zoli — Thu, 22 May 2008 10:56:12 GMT

Formatele de documente ODF 1.1 (utilizate în OpenOffice sau Symphony) vor fi suportate (read-write) în

Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 will support more file formats

Me about things... — Thu, 22 May 2008 11:33:21 GMT

Listening to a lot of customer feedback, the Office decided to add additional file formats to the current

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

Andre — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:24:48 GMT

"The next 12 to 24 months are going to be extremely telling in the world of document formats. The myopia around the standardization process of Open XML will fade as software producers continue to invest their development budgets in the creation of solutions. The specification itself is only the start; it is the implementations, and the competition in the marketplace of broader solutions that will continue to matter more. In my opinion, the continued interest in innovation presented by those solutions will speak much louder than the formats themselves."

Sounds promising and demonstrates the strong public interest in open formats.

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

free as in free beer — Fri, 23 May 2008 06:53:58 GMT

i think the oss problem is just crawling up the big wiggs ass at Microsoft. so they try to reach out to the oss community aww geez, look guys now your open ofice will work with my new program. your last blog on oss software in supposedly third world nations just shows the ignorance of and plain gal of Microsoft.l to think just because they dont use windows their dumb. the fact is microsoft need to get off their ass and start working on more ways to become compatible with the open source community. not just open office format.

see for yourself.

http://blog.milkingthegnu.org/2008/05/microsource.html

let the revolution begin OSS

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

Mitch 74 — Fri, 23 May 2008 11:31:55 GMT

@hAL: about SVG, I know: the syntax used for vector graphics in ODF is merely "SVG-like", not using all object properties and adding some custom ones (but the syntax and most objects still are common). Still, on the whole (and considering the work done on both ODF 1.2 and OOo+forks), SVG support would be quite useful if not necessary (and it could be used to add SVG support to IE, which is a nice plus).

It could also be used to (later, in Office 14) provide SVG support in OOXML, and at least replace deprecated VML where DrawingML doesn't cut it - modular design FTW.

About MathML, I'm not sure an XSLT translator is the best solution, considering how slow XSLT is - native support may help, and provide a more efficient translation.

One more step in the right direction, native ODF support in Office 2007 SP2

Pranav ... Blogging — Fri, 23 May 2008 19:07:20 GMT

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One more step in the right direction, native ODF support in Office 2007 SP2

Pranav ... Blogging — Fri, 23 May 2008 19:07:20 GMT

Did’ya see dat! I am pretty exited about these developments , As soon as these this is out I want to

Office 2007 Service Pack 2 will support more file formats

beqiraj.net — Sat, 24 May 2008 05:14:19 GMT

Office 2007 Service Pack 2 will support more file formats

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

Wesley Parish — Tue, 27 May 2008 11:53:54 GMT

I support Wayne's question on the next service packs for older MS Office releases. The installed base is huge, and a lot of them aren't in any hurry to upgrade. When ODF is the established interoperability document file format and communicating important documents between government and citizen, the installed base will still be huge.

It would be in Microsoft's best interests to support ODF for older MS Office releases.

I can dream, can't I?

re: Open XML, ODF, PDF, and XPS in Office

CoolCat — Tue, 27 May 2008 14:00:30 GMT

Yeah. Open Microsoft formats......like sharepoint websites. Can only be edited with MS products.

Office 2007 Service Pack 2 (SP2) will support more file formats

beqiraj.net — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:43:09 GMT

Office 2007 Service Pack 2 (SP2) will support more file formats