Moving the SOA Goalposts

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Better Basketball » Moving the SOA Goalposts — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:45:50 GMT

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re: Moving the SOA Goalposts

Ron Schmelzer — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:24:06 GMT

This is a good piece ;) Ever thought of getting into the analyst business?

In all seriousness, the goalposts are moving because that's where the customers want them to be. They simply don't want to buy EAI-redux. They don't want more of what they have. They want innovation. And isn't innovation all about improving the status quo?

Our perspective on SOA has been EA centric for quite a while now (at least 3 years). It has been steadily moving away from a Web Services-centric vision since that time. And while not all customers or vendors share that vision, we believe Microsoft can profit a lot more from SOA as an EA concept than SOA as a Web Services concept.

That was the point of our message. But read it directly from our research, not from the ZDNet source, and you'll get that detail.

re: Moving the SOA Goalposts

Zubin Wadia — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:21:02 GMT

I think the goalposts should be movable. Who are we to tell the customer how wide they should be? or even if they should be there? ;).

The fastest way to get yourself into a bind is to get religious with a particular platform for SOA/BPM/ECM. That enforces goalposts in a myriad of styles upon the customer resulting in them wrapping themselves into a pretzel.

Composites are the way to go. Work with what you need not with what you are given.

re: Moving the SOA Goalposts

jevdemon — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:53:06 GMT

Zubin,

I think we are in full agreement on this. I was just poking fun at the industry's attempt to define, redefine and contradict itself regarding SOA.

John

re: Moving the SOA Goalposts

matt mcknight — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:13:28 GMT

I've had my own perspective on this for a while- I think the popularity of the term comes the fact the IT is supposed to serve the business- something that was forgotten for a while. That's the "alignment" that most of the places where I do my consulting are looking for. In any case, I've been making my money telling people to say something that means something any time I hear the word SOA.

Did you ever wonder what the backbone of SOA is?

http://lptf.blogspot.com/2008/01/backbone-of-soa-is-standardization.html

HBR on Susceptibility to Fads (like SOA)

Loosely Coupled Thinking — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:47:17 GMT

The December issue of the Harvard Business Review contains a compelling article on "Why You Shouldn't