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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Kathy Kam : Off-Topic Posts</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Off-Topic Posts</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP1 (Build: 61025.2)</generator><item><title>PDC '07... save the date!</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/12/13/pdc-08-save-the-date.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:41:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:1279993</guid><dc:creator>KathyKam</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/comments/1279993.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/commentrss.aspx?PostID=1279993</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=1279993</wfw:comment><description>&lt;P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"&gt;Microsoft will be holding the next Professional Developers Conference (PDC) October 2-5, 2007 in Los Angeles, with two days of pre-conference on September 30 and October 1.&amp;nbsp; Save the date! &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"&gt;I am hoping to go and unveil this new project I am working on. :) &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=1279993" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx">Off-Topic Posts</category></item><item><title>Haven't posted in a while</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/11/27/haven-t-posted-in-a-while.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:1164240</guid><dc:creator>KathyKam</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/comments/1164240.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/commentrss.aspx?PostID=1164240</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=1164240</wfw:comment><description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry I haven't posted in a while. It has mainly been&amp;nbsp;two reasons.The site hosting MSDN blogs was down alot during mid-Oct to late Oct. I was sick of my post getting "lost". Secondly, I've been pretty busy with a new project that haven't been annouced yet and I can't really blog about it. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyways, with the holidays approaching in the US, things have been pretty quiet. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here is to a belated "Happy Thanksgiving" and a early "Happy Holidays". :)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P mce_keep="true"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=1164240" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx">Off-Topic Posts</category></item><item><title>WinForms learning...</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/10/17/winforms-learning.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:27:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:837213</guid><dc:creator>KathyKam</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><comments>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/comments/837213.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/commentrss.aspx?PostID=837213</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=837213</wfw:comment><description>&lt;P&gt;So&amp;nbsp;a few &lt;A class="" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/09/27/774684.aspx" mce_href="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/09/27/774684.aspx"&gt;posts&lt;/A&gt; ago, I said I'll teach myself WinForms. It's been about a month since then... and I want to share some of my learning experience. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;First off, having been a developer in Outlook, I thought I'll re-write the Outlook client using WinForms. Kind of like what Joe Stegmann did &lt;A class="" href="http://www.windowsforms.net/TrackViews.aspx?ID=202&amp;amp;Type=Samples&amp;amp;Redir=%2fSamples%2fdownload.aspx%3fPageId%3d1%26ItemId%3d202%26tabindex%3d4" mce_href="http://www.windowsforms.net/TrackViews.aspx?ID=202&amp;amp;Type=Samples&amp;amp;Redir=%2fSamples%2fdownload.aspx%3fPageId%3d1%26ItemId%3d202%26tabindex%3d4"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.&amp;nbsp;Here are the issues I ran into...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1) &amp;nbsp;I can't find "MessageBox"!&lt;BR&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I am actually a little embrassed to even admit what was the first issues I ran into.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;So, as in any application, I thought I'll start with a simple&amp;nbsp;"Hello World" message box. I&amp;nbsp;wasn't reading tutorials or anything to start. I just started with the&amp;nbsp;Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 and selected a new Windows Forms application. I searched for "Error Dialog Windows Forms", "Warning Dialog&amp;nbsp;.NET" and so forth on &lt;A class="" href="http://www.msdn.com/" mce_href="http://www.msdn.com"&gt;MSDN&lt;/A&gt;, &lt;A class="" href="http://www.live.com/" mce_href="http://www.live.com"&gt;Live Search&lt;/A&gt;, Google.. you name it. NONE of them turned up "MessageBox"! &amp;nbsp;After half an hour of fun times with the search engines, I decided to write my own. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2) Layout&lt;BR&gt;In Outlook, we did a lot of own layout code. Again, I spend my fair share of time on the search engine only to find nothing useful. So again, I wrote my own. Only to find.. Windows Forms has their own layout! You can do this using the "Docking" functionality.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3) Two-way DataBinding a TreeView&lt;BR&gt;Ok.. so the search engines burned me twice, and I thought, not finding a 2-way databind TreeView was my own poor skills in using a search engine. Yes...&amp;nbsp;1 hours later, I learnt... Windows Forms really doesn't have one, and I should have spent my time writing&amp;nbsp;one.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;I found the &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;A class="" href="http://www.windowsforms.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=3&amp;amp;tabid=300" mce_href="http://www.windowsforms.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=3&amp;amp;tabid=300"&gt;Windows Forms FAQ&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;very useful during my learnng process...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What were the stuff you ran into when you first learnt Windows Forms? Do you have any good resources to share?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;Editorial Note&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;I have been playing around with WPF a lot lately... hopefully I will share&amp;nbsp;my experience and some cool samples&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/Editorial Note&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=837213" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx">Off-Topic Posts</category></item><item><title>Teach myself WinForms and WPF...</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/09/27/774684.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 03:58:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:774684</guid><dc:creator>KathyKam</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/comments/774684.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/commentrss.aspx?PostID=774684</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=774684</wfw:comment><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=2&gt;In the next two weeks, I will be spending some time to&amp;nbsp;learn WinForms and WPF&amp;nbsp;to expand my .NET knowledge. :) I was a UI dev in Outlook,, so I understand the basic concepts of GDI and Win32 programming. But I haven't used WinForms much at all. WinForms is based on Win32! So this will be interesting. Seeing different parts of .NET for the first time always gives you new perspective. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=2&gt;Before I begin, do you have any advice? What was the most difficult thing for you when you learn WinForms or WPF? &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=2&gt;I plan on blogging my experience regularly, and share my insights to everyone!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=774684" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx">Off-Topic Posts</category></item><item><title>I'm going on vacation for 2 weeks, and so is my blog!</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/07/28/680589.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:680589</guid><dc:creator>KathyKam</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/comments/680589.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/commentrss.aspx?PostID=680589</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=680589</wfw:comment><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=2&gt;I am so excited about&amp;nbsp;my vacation on August 1st to August 17th. Since I will be on some beach in Thailand, it'll be unlikely that I'll be blogging or answering emails. I didn't annouce my vacation plans in June when I left and received some emails on why I haven't posted in a while. So this time, I am letting you all know well ahead of time! :)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=2&gt;However, before I go, on Monday July 31st, I'll probably be at Lang.Net Symposium with a bunch of BCL folks. If you guys are planning to go there, and have specific BCL questions, please let me know. I will try my best to answer them at the conference. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=2&gt;On Tuesday and Wednesday, they will continue to have the open Q&amp;amp;A session, but unfortunately since I will be stuck on a 14 hour plane trip to South East Asia, I probably wont be able to make it. :P&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=680589" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx">Off-Topic Posts</category></item><item><title>Want to work on the BCL?</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/05/15/596665.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 18:51:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:596665</guid><dc:creator>KathyKam</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><comments>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/comments/596665.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/commentrss.aspx?PostID=596665</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=596665</wfw:comment><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;Since Whidbey shipped, our team has been trying to fill some open headcounts in all disciplines. The open headcounts&amp;nbsp;are&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;replace people whom have moved on to other things and to&amp;nbsp;help with&amp;nbsp;our expanded charter. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;We have open headcounts in UE, Test and Dev. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;Personally, I find the BCL to be a great team to work on. The team&amp;nbsp;is passionate about what we do. The work we do has a high impact. (&lt;STRONG&gt;Everyone&lt;/STRONG&gt; who writes managed code uses the BCL APIs.) &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;Come join us.. and make a difference in managed code!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;Lakshan Fernando, our test lead, talks about his open positions &lt;A href="/bclteam/archive/2006/05/12/596327.aspx"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;I wrote a short post about the CLR User Education (aka Documenation) team &lt;A href="/bclteam/archive/2006/03/10/549057.aspx"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;I think Anthony, our dev lead,&amp;nbsp;will post his open positions on the dev team on the &lt;A href="/bclteam"&gt;BCL Team Weblog&lt;/A&gt; sometime next week. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;This is a chance of a lifetime... don't miss it.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=596665" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx">Off-Topic Posts</category></item><item><title>Meet the BCL Team</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/05/10/meet-the-bcl-team.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 00:53:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:594888</guid><dc:creator>KathyKam</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/comments/594888.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/commentrss.aspx?PostID=594888</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=594888</wfw:comment><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana color=#000000 size=2&gt;Have you ever wonder who are the people behind the BCL? &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana color=#000000 size=2&gt;MSDN has this "Meet the BCL Team" page. The page have not been maintaned and was left outdated for a while (it contained many people who has come and left the team since V1). Yesterday, the MSDN content team updated the page.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana&gt;&lt;A href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa569604.aspx"&gt;http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa569604.aspx&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana color=#000000 size=2&gt;I think my picture looks terrible.. but oh well.. mug shots are never meant to compliment you.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=594888" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx">Off-Topic Posts</category></item><item><title>New-ish CLR/Reflection Blogger</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/2006/04/27/585705.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:17:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:585705</guid><dc:creator>KathyKam</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/comments/585705.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/commentrss.aspx?PostID=585705</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=585705</wfw:comment><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;I &lt;A HREF="/kathykam/archive/2006/02/09/528770.aspx"&gt;mentioned&lt;/A&gt; a while back that I change from being a PM for System.Reflection and System.Reflection.Emit..e.t.c to joining the &lt;A HREF="/bclteam"&gt;BCL team&lt;/A&gt;. (Therefore instead of working of those feature... I'll be owning System.*...etc.) Well.. who's gonna own those features then?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;Please meet &lt;A HREF="/thottams/"&gt;Thottam Sriram&lt;/A&gt;! Thottam&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;THE new Reflection/Reflection.Emit/CodeDOM PM on our team. For those of you interested in Reflection ..e.t.c, he has some very interesting post about "&lt;A HREF="/thottams/archive/2006/03/17/553376.aspx"&gt;overiding a property using new and reflection&lt;/A&gt;" and "&lt;A HREF="/thottams/archive/2006/03/17/553384.aspx"&gt;the difference between .cctors and ctors&lt;/A&gt;" just to name a few.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana size=2&gt;I should get him to post an article for the BCL Blog. :)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=585705" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://blogs.msdn.com/kathykam/archive/tags/Off-Topic+Posts/default.aspx">Off-Topic Posts</category></item></channel></rss>