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Open XML Discussion on Channel9

Charles Torre sat down with Art Leonard, Brian Jones, Doug Mahugh and me to discuss Open XML on Channel9.  It's a two part session, Part1 is here. Brian and Doug did most of the talking and focused broadly on the background around the file format. Art and I talked a little bit about our efforts in designing and prototyping the new Open XML SDK in Part2, which should be up soon.

Art and I had a lot of fun working on the Open XML API, I hope that shows in this video.

And I welcome feedback on my whiteboard skills.

 

 

 

Published Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:49 AM by KevinBoske

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# re: Open XML Discussion on Channel9

Great to see your faces on this video.

Too bad the 5 minutes spent talking about what's actually the new SDK were spoilt by all the retarded stuff that is getting hammered over and over again. Why those guys keep saying the same thing in all those videos is beyond me?

Especially the classic part when someone says it's not good to automate winword.exe on a server, failing to mention that there are tons of third parties to support this scenario without running winword.exe

Of course, third parties are not Microsoft. But a little "openness" does not hurt, sometimes.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:57 PM by Stephane Rodriguez

# re: Open XML Discussion on Channel9

I think you're missing the point, Stephane. The format is Open, the whole thing is spec'd. Rather than reverse-engineering the formats (as you describe others have), ANYONE can now read and write to the formats how they like.  Make sure you also watch part 2 when it gets posted.

Friday, June 29, 2007 1:31 PM by KevinBoske

# re: Open XML Discussion on Channel9

Kevin,

"The format is Open"

A format which is nothing more than a representation of 15 years of proprietary legacy is nothing open.

As for being spec'd, the public specs is only 6,000 pages. The real specs is more like 600,000 pages. And it would include stuff like this : http://www.codeproject.com/cs/library/office2007bin.asp

"ANYONE can now read and write to the formats how they like."

Sure, you can read and write kilometers of angle brackets. I don't think anyone needs System.IO.Packaging or the new "OfficeOpenXML" SDK for that matter.

But understanding what you read is something else, right?

And what about rendering this stuff in a way that is compatible with Office? (which is the whole point of an international standard)

Friday, June 29, 2007 2:32 PM by Stephane Rodriguez

# Documentation bugs

Hi, Kevin.

Sorry for asking this here, but I'd like to report what looks like a problem in the Open XML documentation and couldn't find any pointers on it. Do you know where I can post it, and whether and when will new versions be released?

Thanks.

Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:38 AM by Romulo A. Ceccon
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