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Jeff Key — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:35:00 GMT

While quickly scanning this morning's posts, I read the title of this as "Raymond Chen to Consider Providing Citywide Wi-Fi". Now that would be something.

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Steve — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:19:00 GMT

Hey, can you get them to add city-wide wifi to Sammamish too :)?

Great job!

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Steve — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:21:00 GMT

Hey, your 'mailto' address above is invalid...

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Korby Parnell — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:53:00 GMT

fixed...council@redmond.gov. So Steve, I just got an email from your wife reporting the same issue! Intriguing. ;-) Was she RSS-aware out of the box or was that an upgrade?

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Steve — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:31:00 GMT

I think she hit the web link. She doesn't know RSS from ATOM :p

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jaybaz [MS] — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:45:00 GMT

Korby: You're doing the right thing. Keep it up!

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Wal-Mart as ISP?

TechnoBiblio — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:09:00 GMT

UPDATE: Another blog post (culled from my PubSub search on "public libraries") that sess thevalue of public libraries in the whole wireless infrastrucutre of a city or region - this one in my own backyard of Remond, WA (well, if I had a really big backyard). I mentioned previously in a quick entry about how libraries could loan notebooks with Wi-Max cards and with Wi-Max equipment at their location also be an ISP for these patrons as they already have the backhaul circuit needed. Well, this article on Daily Wireless led me to this post over at the "Institute for the Future" blog where the idea of Wal-Mart getting into the ISP business utilizing Wi-Max is floated. Interesting notion, although highly unlikely for support, cost and profit margin reasons. They are primarily driven by these latter two factors and just in case you have been asleep over the past five years, the telecom world is not exactly lighting up the business world in those areas. While the infrastructure costs would certainly be less than in the traditional telco world, there are a bevy of problems that still exist that I think would steer Wal-Mart away from this investment. But this is interesting to consider because those are the exact two reasons that libraries would actually be well suited for this role. They already provide technical support for their users (albeit this is usually on-site, but not always) and since they are not charging for the service, they do not have to be concerned about profits - although obviously they would have to be concerned about sustaining the equipment and personnel costs. In addition, let's look at the spread of Wal-Marts as compared to public libraries purely on a number of locations basis to see what type of coverage they each would be able to offer. From Wal-Mart's corporate investor relations web site: "As of July 31, 2004, the Company had 1,398 Wal-Mart stores, 1,585 Supercenters, 539 SAM'S CLUBS and 72 Neighborhood Markets in the United States." That is a total of 3,594 locations. According to ALA there are over 16,000 public libraries in the US. Now Wal-Mart may be in more population centers and also can do things that libraries cannot (the uproar caused by a library giving away free internet service to their entire community would be thunderous), but public libraries could certainly cover some markets where Wal-Mart is not. And again, I would not advocate that public libraries make this their primary mission - but as a digital divide effort it could be very interesting. What if you did a multi-layer GIS overlay with your ILS data to highlight your user base, layer in economic demographics, and also home PC ownership and you could selectively install the Wi-Max equipment in those branches of your system where they would have the greatest impact. Then you create a lending program with a local school that gives kids (heck, we might as well include those adults too) access to additional content,...

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cj — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:10:00 GMT

Good to see the mention of the King County Library - they are doing great work - the idea of utilizing the infrastructure that exists at public libraries is defintiely taking off - check out the posts over at Daily Wireless and <shameless self-promotion> at a blog I co-author - http://www.technobiblio.com/archives/000233.html </shameless self-promotion>

Intersting also to see your thoughts on the cable piece in your earlier post - have you ever discussed this with David Keyes over at the City of Seattle?

Take it to the finish line Korby

Tony Gentile — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 22:50:00 GMT

I was out at AOL a couple weeks back, talking to some of their Search folks about their business and product strategy -- a truly WONDERFUL set of people, BTW -- when the story about Philly possibly providing free city-wide WiFi access was circulating.

Sitting in AOL's HQ lobby, looking at the huge flat-screen showing usage stats and pictures of their international data centers, it occurred to me that an ISP like AOL (and heck, many cable, phone and as recently announced, electric companies) must be dreading this news.

Sure, there's still business in providing bandwidth to the city; and most businesses would want to have some type of backup plan vs. 100% reliance on the city for their connectivity... but clearly, the days of 30MM $19.95 subscribers are numbered.

Of course, being a bit of a sceptic, I expected that these behemoths would simply crush the movement by lobbying ($$$) in D.C. for "protection", "consideration", or some other such euphemism for gov't subsidies...

But, reading Korby's post... and seeing that at least in the case of Redmond, the initiative was coming from a savvy tech employee focused on actually trying to provide value to everyday citizens... well, that just warms my heart a bit and gives me hope that the common good just might outweigh the machinations of biggie corporations.

Either way, it'll be interesting to watch.

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