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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>What Does Oslo Mean By Model-Driven?</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/krisho/archive/2009/04/17/what-does-oslo-mean-by-model-driven.aspx</link><description>There's a good discussion between Jean-Jacques Dubray , Doug Purdy , and Charles Young about if/how Oslo relates to MDA, MOP, UML, SOA, metamodels and a number of other high-science concerns related to modeling. I'll leave those discussions to the experts</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP1 (Build: 61025.2)</generator><item><title>What Does Oslo Mean By Model-Driven? | ASP NET Hosting</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/krisho/archive/2009/04/17/what-does-oslo-mean-by-model-driven.aspx#9554507</link><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:52:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:9554507</guid><dc:creator>What Does Oslo Mean By Model-Driven? | ASP NET Hosting</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;PingBack from &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://asp-net-hosting.simplynetdev.com/what-does-oslo-mean-by-model-driven/"&gt;http://asp-net-hosting.simplynetdev.com/what-does-oslo-mean-by-model-driven/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: What Does Oslo Mean By Model-Driven?</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/krisho/archive/2009/04/17/what-does-oslo-mean-by-model-driven.aspx#9555258</link><pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:54:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:9555258</guid><dc:creator>Charles Young</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;LOL. &amp;nbsp; Percocet wins every time. &amp;nbsp; Less mess.&lt;/p&gt;
</description></item><item><title>re: What Does Oslo Mean By Model-Driven?</title><link>http://blogs.msdn.com/krisho/archive/2009/04/17/what-does-oslo-mean-by-model-driven.aspx#9556896</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:34:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:9556896</guid><dc:creator>Jean-Jacques Dubray</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Kris:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thank you for your comment. You are missing the &amp;quot;JavaScript&amp;quot; piece in your picture. At the end of the day (and as your picture shows it) it is not a visual-DSL vs textual-DSL problem (they are isomorphic), the question (and the problem) is that there is a continuum between code and models, a model without &amp;quot;implementation&amp;quot; elements is not that useful (imagine HTML without JavaScript...).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then the question is how do you generally add implementation elements to a metamodel and how do you infer the syntax in relation to the metamodel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JavaScript was added &amp;quot;behind&amp;quot; the model, that's a (simplistic) strategy (Microsoft is using that strategy a lot), but that's not very modular.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you are really serious about creating a &amp;quot;pragmatic&amp;quot; framework that offers a continuum between code and model, you cannot avoid the M3 layer (IMHO).&lt;/p&gt;
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