What does the the third letter in GIFT stand for?

re: What does the the third letter in GIFT stand for?

bg — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:18:00 GMT

although, it would be cool if the 'F' did stand for Freakin' ;}

bg

re: What does the the third letter in GIFT stand for?

Michael Kaplan — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:54:00 GMT

Yes, that would be funny. I could suggest a new team meaning -- Globalization and Impressive Freaking Typography! :-)

Tune up your screen fonts

Ed Bott - Windows (and Office) Expertise — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:58:00 GMT

Last October, the Microsoft Typography group released a ClearType Tuner PowerToy. Don't assume that this is just for notebooks. Tweaking these settings in Windows XP really can make your screen more readable. There's a downloadable version, or you can use the online ClearType Tuner (because it uses an ActiveX control, the online version works...

Romanian fonts?

Gabriel Radic — Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:21:00 GMT

Yes, but can you talk about when/if Microsoft will support the correct Romanian language diacritics? Cause that's long overdue, especially considering the OS that was actually translated in Romanian.

re: What does the the third letter in GIFT stand for?

Michael Kaplan — Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:29:00 GMT

Gabriel -- You would have to provide more info on what you mean by "correct" (both what is happening now and what should be happening). I am not sure what issue you are referring to, otherwise?

re: What does the the third letter in GIFT stand for?

Gabriel Radic — Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:59:38 GMT

This is a very old issue, and it was brought to Microsofts attention several times in the past. You were personally involved at some point in a forum discussion about this.

Anyway, the problem could be wrapped up to this: the default font in Windows do not include the correct romanian characters for S WITH COMMA BELOW and T WITH COMMA BELOW. See...

the Unicode specs
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0100.pdf

this guy's page
http://bucovina.chem.tue.nl/page_8.htm

even the Wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedilla

or the Goo... MSN Search results
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=unicode+cedilla+romanian

Thanks.

re: What does the the third letter in GIFT stand for?

Michael S. Kaplan — Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:45:03 GMT

Ah yes, THAT issue. As far as I know, the next version of most of the core fonts will have the bulk of the support for existing characters. In the meantime any font that does have them is supported on Windows.

The keyboard issue is a trickier one since existing layouts cannot change assignments. This will be harder to do something with beyond adding them elsewhere or adding a whole new keyboard, as far as I know. I will inquire....

re: What does the the third letter in GIFT stand for?

Adam Twardoch — Wed, 18 May 2005 05:43:05 GMT

I have written a bit about the "Romanian situation" in my recent Unicode conference paper:
http://www.twardoch.com/download/unicode2005_fontlab5.pdf

The bottom line is that fonts should include a "locl" feature for the Romanian language that substitute the glyphs with cedilla by the respective glyphs with commaaccent. It's a bit of a hack but it works.

Regards,
Adam

re: What does the the third letter in GIFT stand for?

Michael S. Kaplan — Wed, 18 May 2005 05:50:39 GMT

Well, that is one possible solution -- I do not know if that is what they are doing here, exactly though.

Don't muck with the combining character order

Sorting It All Out — Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:31:59 GMT

The communicative property of addition clearly does not apply to combing marks in Unicode.
Or at least...