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For a couple years now, I've been happily using a DigitalPersona fingerprint reader. It was given to me at one of our internal events, and I had let it sit on my shelf collecting dust wondering why I'd ever need a biometric security device to logon to my machine. Then, one day, I ran across it while looking for something else, and I decided to plug it in and give it a try. Unfortunately, the personal edition of the DigitalPersona device wouldn't allow me to logon with my fingerprint unless I was using the Windows XP Welcome Screen option (and I prefer the Windows Classic Logon). So I was just about ready to disconnect it and put it back on the shelf to collect more dust when I read that I could use it to provide usernames and passwords for web sites I frequently visit. Interesting.

Basically, you visit a site that requires authentication, touch the reader with one of your registered fingers, then tell the fingerprint software what it should enter into selected fields on the web page. You can also indicate whether or not you'd like the "submit" button on the page to be pressed. That's it! Now, the next time you visit that web page, you just touch the fingerprint reader, and everything is done for you. It's really that simple, and it makes logging into secure sites a breeze. I suppose it could be used for any site that has fields you'd like to fill in, but I've used it exclusively for authentication.

I knew that we had recently come out with our own Fingerprint Reader, and I figured that I could use my new computer purchase as an excuse to try it out. So, even though the DigitalPersona reader had never given me a single problem (other than the Windows XP logon restriction), I purchased the newer, slimmer, and sleeker-looking Microsoft version. And guess what I quickly discovered? It's also made by DigitalPersona! I was very happy to learn this, although I wondered if our version would provide any benefits over the older reader.

The Microsoft Fingerprint Reader does allow you to logon to your machine, even if you're using the Windows Classic Logon screen like me. Plus, the interface that allows you to configure fields and buttons on a web page is improved and very straightforward. As you can see in the screenshot, the software highlights the field on the web page (in this case, a Hotmail password field) that corresponds to the field that you are registering. Then, you can tell it which button to use to submit your information. In my case, it automatically selected the "Sign In" button for me. After I press OK, I'll never have to type these credentials again...I can just use one of my registered fingers.

One word of caution. I've discovered that the reader will not work more than a couple times when plugged into a Belkin F5U237 Hi-Speed USB 2.0 7-Port Hub. If I plug it directly into my computer, everything works as advertised. The fingerprint reader appears to require 260mA of power from the USB port, and from what I've read, the USB specification states that devices may use up to 500mA before they need to provide their own external power source.

I'm not sure why it doesn't work reliably when connected to the Belkin hub, but I've tried a number of things to diagnose the problem: I've plugged the hub directly into the wall (instead of through a surge protector), I've tried all of the ports on the hub, I've tried another hub of the same make and model, I've upgraded all of my USB drivers, and I've spent about 30 minutes on the phone with Belkin technical support. Although the support person I spoke with was very helpful, we were unable to successfully resolve my problem. I'll probably try a different USB hub to see if the issue I'm having is limited to this specific make and model. Update: I installed an Adaptec USB card, and everything now works fine. It appears that the problem is with the USB chipset on my motherboard (VIA).

Regardless of this slight hiccup, I am very happy with the new reader. For around $41 (or $39.88 if you live near a Sam's Club), this is a nice piece of hardware that offers a lot of convenience. If you're looking for unique and useful gift ideas for the upcoming holidays, this is one I'd highly recommend.

Published Friday, December 03, 2004 1:24 AM by mswanson
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# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I heard that you cannot use it to logon a system connecting to a domain. Is that true?
Friday, December 03, 2004 4:57 AM by Marc Hoeppner

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You're correct, Marc. From the online documentation: "You can log on to your Windows account using the DigitalPersona Password Manager logon screen instead of the standard Windows logon screen, if the computer is not a member of a domain and the Welcome screen is not enabled."
Friday, December 03, 2004 7:58 AM by Michael Swanson

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Why do I have to go the hardware route and "swipe" my finger. Why not just use one of the many password managers out there (including the one built into IE) (obviouslly this wouldn't work for the XP login - but for regular site browsing it should be just fine)
Friday, December 03, 2004 9:15 AM by AIM48

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Hi AIM48, personally I don't have a fingerprint reader but I think the biggest difference is the fact that you have to "swipe" (?) your finger _everytime_ you need to log in to something. In comparison, for the password managers you have to "log in" to the manager once. After you have logged in, you (or anyone who has access to your _logged in_ account) can log in to the websites that you have info saved for. So fingerprint readers a bit more secure. :-/
Friday, December 03, 2004 1:22 PM by Farhan Ahmad

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I'm really disappointed that Microsoft has apparently disabled Netscape/FireFox support in DigitalPersona-- the wizard even pops up for these browsers, but it never saves!

Funny how it works perfect in IE..
Monday, December 06, 2004 9:29 PM by Nicholas

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

But why a fingerprint reader with a disclaimer that it's not for use with important data connections like banking ect? If it's only secure enough to log into Yahoo games, then a password manager is good enough and more convenient. I'll wait for a couple months until someone else enters the fray with a secure version.

Interesting that out of all the reviews I've read the only one that didn't point this out was on a MS employee site. :) Of course, biting the hand that feeds you is a fool's game anyway; especially when the hand belongs to MS.
Tuesday, December 07, 2004 4:21 AM by bill

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Seems 'funny' how DigitalPersona product almost identical to the one branded with microsoft works with firefox but the ms version doesnt?

Why did MS cripple the sw so that firefox isnt supported? - Given that Firefox is securer than IE (perhaps just because less treats targeted at it :-| )
Tuesday, December 07, 2004 4:28 PM by mr o

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

how about a 64bit ver i got this thing thinking it would work on any windows os!
Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:25 PM by Dan Geatens

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Nicholas and Mr. O...although I'm not on the team that wrote the software, I doubt we "disabled" any support for third-party browsers. More likely, the desired integration may not have been possible to implement...especially given that we're experts in IE, not the other browsers. To my knowledge (and based on personal discussions with product teams), we'd never intentionally disable support for non-Microsoft technologies. Either we don't have time in the schedule to ensure support, or we're not experts in the third-party technologies, or any of a number of other reasons. I can tell you that our intentions are nowhere near as nefarious as the news media typically depicts them.
Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:27 AM by Michael Swanson

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I have never used one of the fingerprint readers. I would like to know about the process of using it. Say I go to hotmail.com and it is asking for a logon. Do I just put my finger on the scanner and the software logons on? Or do I need to clip something or do some other action either before or after placing my finger on the reader.

TIA,
Jeff
Friday, December 10, 2004 2:34 AM by Jeff Laun

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Jeff...you got it. Of course, you have to register your finger once and enter your credentials the first time. But, after that, every other visit to the site simply requires a touch of the reader.
Friday, December 10, 2004 9:41 AM by Michael Swanson

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Thanks for the response. I have to get myself one.

Jeff
Friday, December 10, 2004 10:54 AM by Jeff Laun

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It's utterly pointless. It doesn't work in Firefox so its a waste of money.
Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:02 PM by Blah

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I accept that Microsoft is not the big bad that some media make it out to be or the *nux community wish but if the original manufacturer, and I assume who assisted in the latest revision of their product to float under the MS brand, could get it to work with Firefox first time then the product already had that knowledge imbedded in the software unless when Microsoft touched it, they broke it?

Never-the-less I have brought myself the kit and am impressed - obviously some clever chap or someone with a lot of time on their hands will find the solution for firefox functionality and ie / firefox web form registration interoperability. (i.e. register once with either browser, use in both).

regards.
Saturday, December 11, 2004 3:09 PM by mr o

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Well, it obviously has some sort of FireFox integration, since it's able to pop up the login wizard, just like it does on IE (and will even highlight the login boxes, check boxes, etc.. just like IE!). It even saves the XML formatted data for the wizard when you complete it (somewhere in your Application Data folders, I forget.) But when you go to "log in" to that site with your fingerprint, it's like the software completely ignores the previously saved data, and acts like you want to create a new registration.

I e-mailed Microsoft tech support, and they informed me that the product is meant to work only with Internet Explorer. I have returned the product because of this fact, but if you like IE, then I suppose you'll like the fingerprint scanner.
Saturday, December 11, 2004 5:27 PM by Nicholas

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

DigitalPersona's Canadian Director of Sales, Tony LaMantia, was kind enough to reply to my question about Firefox incompatibility with the MS Fingerprint Reader products, which he confirmed. "Yes I understand this is true for the Microsoft biometric peripherals..."

I also was on the verge of buying the MS keyboard w/fingerprint reader, but not now. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone now. How quickly this Firefox issue is resolved will show how serious Microsoft is about responding to its customers, but I will not be holding my breath thats for sure.
Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:13 PM by Tom

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Tom..."I wouldn't recommend this to anyone now." Does that mean that you wouldn't recommend this to 85%+ of users who use Internet Explorer? I understand that the Firefox integration might not work, and that's good to know for people who use that browser. But I don't see what that has to do with someone like me who has no issues at all with IE.
Sunday, December 12, 2004 12:49 AM by Michael Swanson

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is-it good with avant browser and other browser like this one?Is-it enough secure for bank password and transaction?
Monday, December 13, 2004 3:24 AM by normand

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Michael, do you know if by chance the new Microsoft drivers will work with the old digitalpersona model? I have an old digital persona model and have never been able to get the software to save my passwords for websites, although it works fine for logon. Also, every time I remote in to the PC with a remote desktop connection, the next time I use the digital persona, it does not work for login, and I have to type the password manually. I figured, ah, new product, they will write better drivers for it someday... But it never happened. I am disappointed to hear that digital persona makes the Microsoft unit, as I believe their products to be poorly supported junk.
Monday, December 13, 2004 7:21 AM by G.Wright

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

G.Wright...believe it or not, I had tried exactly what you suggest. I plugged in my old DigitalPersona device, but it wouldn't use the Microsoft drivers. So, based on my simple experiment, it looks like they need their own drivers.
Monday, December 13, 2004 10:04 AM by Michael Swanson

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do we need windows systeme pack 2 for using fingerprint
Monday, December 13, 2004 1:47 PM by peter

# re: MFR - Windows 2000

Will this thing work with Win2K? I see tat requirements state WinXP.
Monday, December 13, 2004 3:58 PM by Adrian

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Michael, I wouldn't recommend this product out of principle. If it doesn't work with Firefox (10 million downloads as of Saturday), what else will it not work with? Is MS really telling us that its only going to work with MS apps only? This is unacceptable, and a very old and tired tactic that the public is not going to stand for anymore. Wasn't this stuff supposed to be addressed with all the anti-trust shenigans of the last 10 years? I guess not. Then it was software not working with software, now its hardware not working with software. Note: I am not asking, nor expecting, this device to work with *every* conceivable piece of software out there, but I don't think its too much to ask to have MS at least make it compatible with the 2 or 3 other top browsers out there. The people selling the MS hardware (input devices and the like) should have the attitude, "hey, lets make sure this works with all the major stuff out there.. that means more sales!" Instead, we have the attitude, "oh, lets just make sure this only works with IE". If this was a mom and pop outfit, I would sympathize with an excuse that "well, we can't afford the extra programming time to make this work...", but that simply doesn't fly with MS.
Monday, December 13, 2004 10:49 PM by Tom

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I am to a FireFox User, Just bought the reader today for 39.99 at Sam's Club. Though this would be a Cool thing but soon found out that It dont work with firefox, Very Disappointing. I Hope Microsoft Will Fix this Issue Soon. I Will Keep my Reader only to use it for Devolpment I want to see if there is something i can make for it to make it secure, is there a way in the registry to turn off the user logon screen? i know it sound hokey But Id like to make something that requires a Fingerprint to sign on make it to where your fingerprint is your identity.. im not tring to make a fort knox or anything cause anything and everything is hackable anymore i just want to make it easier for the end user but a little harder for the hackers. I Noticed alot of the older generation people at work have a hard time chaning there login passwords at work every 90 days they always seem to forget and have to call tech support 2 or 3 times till they remeber the password. if anyone hears of support for FireFox Id love to know. So Post it on here. Thanks!
Monday, December 13, 2004 11:11 PM by Sammy

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I am really considering this, and wouldn't mind using IE while I was doing so, but the main reason I would use this is to "re-login" that is, to automatically put in my password to unlock my computer. every time I step away I hit [windows]+L to lock, but I have heard that the reader won't work in this situation. Can anyone verify this?
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:42 PM by Chris

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Chris...unlocking the computer with a fingerprint works fine. I tried it just now a few times to make sure I wasn't imagining things. :)
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:13 PM by Michael Swanson

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Just bought one. Just installed it. Works like a charm. Love it already. Sick of remembering passwords. Why would MS accept any liablility?
Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:48 PM by Dave

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I am really considering buying this product but so far I have been unable to find the reader in any store.(Netherlands) So this is where my question comes in. is the cable attached to the reader itself one of those very short things where you will almost have to place the reader next to your computer of is it a fair length of cable?
Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:43 PM by Vincenzo

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Vincenzo...I just measured the cable. It's about 4.5 feet long.
Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:30 PM by Michael Swanson

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Thank you
Friday, December 17, 2004 8:23 AM by Vincenzo

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Think I'm going to return it - was all excited to get it working, hooked it up, and no Firefox support AND no domain support. Blows both of my uses.
Friday, December 17, 2004 4:19 PM by Chris Lynch

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Works great but not with firefox. It also works very well using Novell authentication as well as other stand-alone applications requiring a password such as my GroupWise e-mail application. Hope microsoft will be able to revise their software to allow it to work with firefox.
Friday, December 17, 2004 7:54 PM by Joe

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Does it work under the old windows logon i dont use fast switching/welcome screen
Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:54 AM by Shaun

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader - Problem with digital certificates

Hi Michael,

I too very much enjoy the convenience of the MS Fingerprint Reader. Although, I've experienced a very significant and time consuming problem with installation of the Digital Persona software breaking my personal digital certificate rendering Outlook encrypted emails completely unreadable.

After literally more than 12 hours of troubleshooting - hours on the phone with MS h/w TS (which got no where) and more hours of troubleshooting, I finally found that restoring a backup of the System State from before the DP software was installed (no, unfortunately, a System Restore doesn't fix the problem), then exporting a copy of the digital certificate through Outlook, Tools, Security, re-installing the DP s/w and finally re-importing the digital certificate fixed the problem. Finally, the Fingerprint reader works and I can once again read encrypted emails!

The System State restore is important b/c just trying to delete and re-import the digital cert doesn't do the trick.

Could you please pass these details along to the FP h/w team and h/w tech support so others don't also bloody their head on the device!?

Thanks!
Sunday, December 19, 2004 5:52 PM by Encrypted

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I saw this thing in Sam's the other day and thought, "oh cool." I have a few more questions before I buy one though. Is it possible to use one reader on multiple machines? Can I use it at home and then take it to work with me? Or does the software license only allow one install on one machine? Are there any current competing devices out there to compare this to?

Thanks! All the above comments and questions were very helpful.
Sunday, December 19, 2004 6:14 PM by Nathan

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Hi Nathan;

It works fine on multiple machines. Always some hiccups with new roll outs. Hope DP releases some further info on Password Manager regarding the true security algorithm and if it is somewhat secure.
Monday, December 20, 2004 8:17 AM by Dave

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I bought this thing on a whim and now I don't know how I ever lived without it. I didn't realize how many times a day I typed in my password--everything from email to source safe.

And I REALLY like the way it works with FUS. Just tuck your finger and it switches to that user. No problems whatsoever with the software or hardware.

The biggest danger is that I'll forget my passwords! I keep them written down in my safe, and PGP encripted on a USB keychain disk.
Monday, December 20, 2004 8:27 PM by Robert Swirsky

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Monday, December 20, 2004 8:28 PM by Robert Swirsky

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Monday, December 20, 2004 8:28 PM by Robert Swirsky

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How do I login using only fingerprint and disable password box?
Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:57 AM by Floyd

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

FWIW, I'm just not comfortable with the red light shining near my eyes all the time, so using some double-sided tape on the back of it, I mounted the little reader vertically on the right side of my keyboard with the touch surface facing right - away from my eyes. Being ride-handed, its an easy reach to touch a print.

I purposely recorded serveral prints off-center and angled to allow for more realistic usage.

Enjoy!
Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:34 AM by Encrypted

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Great review Michael,

This is very cool technology, which I had seen, but was apprehensive about, since I could not tell how it actually worked form the marketing literature. I have a few questions and comments.

As I understand, the fingerprint reader provides two different authentication services:

1) Authentication login for Windows XP operating system

2) A simple credential manager (for IE forms)

For #1, does this use a GINA plug-in? Perhaps that is why one user reported that after installing, they lost access to thier private key (likely stored via DPAPI), under the user's account that existed prior to installing the GINA plug-in? There was a comment that this doesn't work with Domains, but how does this work with Windows workgroups? Is there a "real" windows username and password that the fingerprint reader is protecting? Otherwise, how would one authenticate between workgroup computers. For example, on my home network, I have my user accounts (username and password) replicated on various computers to allow automated authentication for accessing files, printers, etc.

For #2, does this work with the IE AutoComplete for user and passwords? Is this why they recommend that you don't use this for "important" usernames and passwords, in that the "credential store" that the fingerprint reader is protecting could be vulnerable, but not that the fingerprint technology itself is insecure?

Is the fingerprint reader more for security or for convenience? If it is truely securing my Windows login, then I can write a program (eg. using DPAPI), that will encrypt data in the user context. If the user's login session is protected via the fingerprint reader, the whole computer would be more secure (regardless of whether one uses it for web passwords in IE).

I am thinking about getting this for my kids for their home computers, this would be simpler than trying to have them remember their passwords in the home network workgroup (besides being pretty cool!). Are there any know problems with using the fingerprint reader for "kid fingers".

If they work out the Domain login issue, this would also be great for our school computer lab (which currently uses Domain login authentication). It would be great to be able to have the students login to the lab computers using fingerprint authentication opposed to having them remember passwords (and the associated password management issues). How many users are supported for each device?

Hmmm.. I haven't looked, but how do they plan to sell this to the corporate world if they don't support Domain login, or perhaps this is a consumer only device?

Thanks.

-rcme
Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:30 PM by rcme

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I've had my reader for a few weeks now. Everything works OK except trying to use it for the "unlock computer" dialogue box - the one that comes up from a password-protected screensaver. Have to resort to typing in the id and password.

Any ideas.
Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:14 PM by Bob Pierce

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Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:58 PM by cedric

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Hi, could someone explain this statement? I have been having problems logging onto Windows using the fingerprint reader. However, everything else was fine. Anyway, can some please explain what this means? Thanks!

"IMPORTANT! If your computer is a member of a 'domain', you cannot use your fingerprint reader to log on to Windows."

Thanks a lot, I appreciate it~~!

~~Eric
Saturday, December 25, 2004 12:52 PM by Eric

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Can't believe this doesn't work with Netscape and/or Firefox. Come'on!
Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:10 PM by Douglas

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I just got this as a christmas present, I asked for fingerprint scanner. I am very disappointed that this device does not work with firefox. I read above that a supposed microsoft employee said that we should recommend it anyway to the 85% of the people who only use IE. Well, I don't think that the 85% of the people who only use IE are willing to try new products like this fingerprint reader, the 15% of us who are on the technological edge are trying out fingerprint scanners for the first time because we are interested in security and we generally are using firefox. I thought I could keep out of trouble using IE but just being careful of where I went and what I clicked on, I was sadly mistaken. I would not recommend this device to anyone. I will research other devices today and if I find something that does work with firefox I'm taking the microsoft fingerprint device back.
Sunday, December 26, 2004 10:04 AM by Andy R.

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I got the MS Fingerpirnt Reader standalone for Christmas. In none of the articles and reviews I have read is there any mention of it having any trouble reading prints so I was surprised that it had so much trouble with my prints. Though I did not keep an exact count it seems like 90% of attempts were faulure. Most of the time there was no response from the reader at all. Many times I got a "flash" like like it was scanning but was followed by silence, no from the software indicating either success or failure. These the duration of the "flashes" ranged from about a half second to about 10 seconds with a few that quit only when I took my finger off. Of those times when I did get a "tone" most of the time it indicated faulure.

Reading in the docs about possible recognition trouble with "dry" prints I rubbed in a little of the wife's skin conditioner but this but this brought no change in results. I cleaned the reader numerous times with the prescribed ammonia based cleaner but the trouble continued.

I forget which one but a review mentioned the possibility of older folks having trouble due to their prints not being as pronounced as those of younger people. I am a somewhat high mileage 54 year old. Could this be the trouble?

The troubles asside I was stunned to discover that there is no way enter, edit or delete passwords off line. Instead the user is forced to each individual password protected site in order to delete the user/pword file for that one site only. Only then can a new user/pword file be created. This must be repeated for each and every file that needs editing!!!!!

I still have trouble believing that so simple and basic a feature as an editor was seemingly intentionally left out of the password manager. Is there something I missed here?

If I am correct and there is no editor in Version 1.0 of the password manager will one be added in the future?
Monday, December 27, 2004 12:59 AM by Joe L.

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I got this as a Christmas gift, and am very sad that it doesn't work with Firefox. It is a very nice unit, and the software is easy to use. Is it really too much to ask for it to work with more than MS products? I seriously doubt it would have taken very much effort to integrate it with Firefox, we're talking a very small percentage of the over-all development cycle. This is something that should have been a requirement from the beginning of the development process. I'm not impressed.
Monday, December 27, 2004 11:09 PM by Jc

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I was wondering if there is an import/export feature in case you want to use it on a different PC.

Cheers.
Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:26 AM by SamouraiMan

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Actually, another question! Looks like the product from Digital Persona not only supports web logon but also applications. Is this also true with MS?
Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:41 AM by SamouraiMan

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Joe L -

I don't know my mileage, but I'm 58 and it recognizes my prints fine. For me, everything works as advertised except trying to use it to logon from a password-protected screensaver's "unlock computer" dialog box.

Did you try the reader on another computer? And I do know that you have to follow the install steps exactly (I found this out the hard way).

Also I agree with your complaint about the lack of any real password management functionality. This version barely deserves a 1.0.

Bob Pierce
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:24 AM by Bob Pierce

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Somebody from the Netherlands wrote that he couldn't find it in the Netherlands. I've just bought it yesterday at Computercollectief in Amsterdam, www.comcol.nl. They have a shop and also do mail order.
Thursday, December 30, 2004 6:44 AM by Rob van Hulst

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Sony makes one too, which might work with Firefox, but it's three times the price! I saw it at amazon. Buy.com has the MS version for 41.00 and free shipping.
Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:41 PM by AngelArs

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APC makes one that apparently allows the use of Firefox AND online banking, PLUS it costs LESS then the Microsoft unit! Life is good! You can see it here and at Buy.com:

http://www.apc.com/tools/get_content/index.cfm?http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=246&fs=Mobile%20Computing
Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:27 PM by AngelArs

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AngelArs,

The APC one DOES NOT support Firefox. I went through this this weekend. For christmas I got the Microsoft scanner and my father was given the APC one. Neither work with Firefox which is very disappointing because we are both very dissatisfied with MSIE due to it's complete lack of security.

So now we both have a light paper weight for our desks.
Friday, December 31, 2004 4:36 AM by PJ

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Bob Pierce

The troubles that caused my MS Fingerprint Reader to fail miserably reading my prints may have been cured by further instalation work or an exchange for anther one but even if perfect recognition were acheived that would still leave my vast disgust at the lack of any real way to manage the passwords. They did not even include a method to back them up!!!! What in Heaven's name were these people thinking when they released a product without such basic functions? So back to the store it went.

I shall keep an eye on Microsoft and Digital Persona to see if they sober up and build an editor and back-up into the next software update. If they do I may try agian.

I am also going to take a look at the APC unit "AngelArs" mentioned earlier. The APC unit uses something called "TruePrint Sensor Technology". Googling that I came up with:

http://www.findbiometrics.com/viewnews.php?id=372

"Used to replace PINs, passwords, physical access cards and keys, AuthenTec's TruePrint(R)-based sensors provide the most convenient and reliable fingerprint security solutions available today for the PC, wireless, access control and automotive markets. AuthenTec's patented TruePrint technology allows fingerprints to be read below the surface of the skin to the live layer -- or true fingerprint. As such, TruePrint is not affected by common skin surface conditions including dry, worn, calloused, dirty or oily skin that can affect other sensors' ability to acquire accurate fingerprint images for user authentication purposes. Uniquely, TruePrint is the only fingerprint sensor technology capable of acquiring anyone's fingerprint under virtually any condition."

Ignoring for the moment any potential corporate advertising hooey: if the fingerprint reading problem was due to my "high-mileage" hands these guys may have the fix.

The makers of "TruePrint Sensor Technology" is "AuthenTec Inc." and have a site here: http://www.authentec.com/

There is a "Where to Buy" link on the site that includes the APC unit and many others. I have not yet made a decision to buy any of them but hopefully there is one in there that looks worth a try.
Friday, December 31, 2004 2:43 PM by Joe L.

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It doesn't look like it's possible to use the MS reader to store multiple personas, other than (presumably) by using different Windows accounts. I'd like to be able to use my fingerprint to access (say) my Hotmail account, and dad to be able to use his fingerprint to access his Hotmail account, without switching Windows users. Does anyone know if this is possible?
Friday, December 31, 2004 2:53 PM by Mike Clarkson

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Bob,

I've used both the MS and the APC unit. While I'm very disatisfied with the MS units software the APC units software was no better; the software was severely lacking. As I mentioned previously the APC units software also does not support Firefox (which may or not be a factor for you) and does not seem to have any more functionality than the software with the MS unit.

Now as for the hardware the APC unit does seem to use a different technology for acquiring prints. The MS unit uses an optical system and the APC unit seems to have a sensor that sees the conductivity of your skin in some way to see the print. It takes a very good image of the print, but so does the MS unit (for me anyways).

The APC unit is my fathers and he is 61 now and it had no trouble reading his prints, so "high mileage" may not be a factor with it.
Friday, December 31, 2004 6:21 PM by PJ

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Joe L, I purchased the APC unit yesterday at Circuit City. I told the salesman that buy.com had it for 34.00 and they reduced the price of theirs from 49.99 to 33.00 :) I must say that it is a great piece of technology. I especially like their feature where I don't have to enter in a fingerprint/passowrd at all. The unit senses the login screen and automatically sends the correct information to the screen. This takes less than a half of a second and most times you hardly notice the login screen at all :) You can also modify the passwords later, and up to 20 people can use the same sensor. APC is a great company and my UPS from them has NEVER had ANY kind of a problem at all. Wish APC made cars :)

PJ, I am going to ask APC's tech support more about the Firefox issue. I don't use Firefox but I see some of you do, so it would be nice to know what APC's plans are regarding this. I'm sure they will resolve the problem faster than Microsoft will :)

As for the functionality of the software VS. the Microsoft software, first of all the Microsoft unit ONLY uses Win XP. However the APC unit can be used with Win 98, Win ME, Win 2K, and Win XP. Also, you can edit the passwords with the OmniPass software that APC uses, but you cannot edit then in the MS software, at least that's my understanding of it. Also the security issue is much better with the APC unit. Here is my understanding of how APC's works; First "the fingerprint image" is itself encrypted with the XTEA encryption algorithm using a 128-bit key! Next, that data is encrypted AGAIN using DPAPI. The user account information is associated with the fingerprint template and these are signed using an RSA private key maintained by CryptoAPI. When users enter passwords into the software to replace log-in info, the user-names and passwords are first encrypted with the XTEA encryption algorithm using a 128-bit key! Next they are encrypted in DPAPI, which uses the user's unique private Windows password to derive the key, and entropy from the application. As if that's not enough, they are encrypted STILL AGAIN with a 3DES key which is itself protected by an RSA keypair.

Mike Clarkson, I don't think the Microsoft unit allows for that, but the APC unit allows up to 20 people to access it, and it even supports multiple languages. It also has a two year warranty VS. a one year with Microsoft’s. Multiple users can switch accounts directly and easily by right clicking on the icon in the taskbar. Hope that helps.
Friday, December 31, 2004 9:30 PM by AngelArs

# re: MS-Fingerprint Reader - A bug???

Hi! I'm running XP Pro SP2 and using the fingerprint reader (latest driver). I cannot access the Logon Manager to modify an incorrect password I enterewd by miatake. According to the instructions below I should be able to access this feature by simply clicking on the little hand icon in the top title bar. When I do nothing happens...

Please help! Thanks!!

From the driver Helkp file:

Changing Fingerprint Logons
To modify the account information entered by a fingerprint logon, click the hand icon on the logon screen title bar to bring up Fingerprint Logon Manager. Select the account and then click Change. On the Edit Fingerprint Logon dialog box, edit your existing account information in the appropriate text boxes and click OK. You can also change the fingerprint logon title and Quick Link settings.
Saturday, January 01, 2005 11:15 PM by Iam Nemo

# USB 2.0 Problems

Monday, January 03, 2005 4:19 PM by Michael Swanson's Blog

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

will the fingerprint reader work as a fingerprint scanner for a biometric software package.
Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:03 AM by Glen

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Glen...good question. It'd probably depend on the support of the specific biometric software package.
Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:50 AM by mswanson

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Just bought this product, question is, can this thing be backed up so I don't have to redo all the logins in the event of a format?
Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:17 PM by Bruce

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Is there any possibility to back up the fngerprint data in case of reinstalling WindowsXP?
Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:49 AM by Hans Rijfkogel

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I received a Microsoft fingerprint reader as a Christmas gift, installed it, and used it just long enough to become addicted.  After about 2 weeks it would flash, but would not recognize any fingerprints.  Reinstallation of the software did not help.  My computer is older, with only two USB1.0 ports so I use a port expander. Eliminating the expander, connecting the reader directly to the computer has not helped.  I exchanged the reader for a new one and the problem remains. Any suggestions?
Monday, February 13, 2006 12:50 AM by Rick A.

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

This blog was very helpful -- I appreciate all the input from various readers.  I was ready to order the MS product, but thought I should check first.  Now I'm glad -- I resent the pressure created by the 'only works with IE' strategy, and I frankly do not believe that MS programmers aren't competent enough to make this product work with the major browsers.  Give me a break.
Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:00 PM by Darien Fenn

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Darien: I fully agree that we're competent enough to make the product work with other browsers. However, it all comes down to time and resources, and although the popular view is that we're overflowing with money to spend on just about anything, the reality is that we've a cost-conscious company that is responsible to our customers and investors. In our case, a vast majority of our customers use IE, so that's where we work best.
Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:13 PM by Michael Swanson

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Wow...i just bought this at office depot near seattle....yeah the big City near Microsoft itself.  I swear on any and everything I will never use IE again..other then the required computer Updates I have to do.  So after many Viruses, and attacks i switched to Firefox..  Seeing this product has been out for a few years and still no sopport to Firefox.  I think I need to return this, and tell allll the local stores in alll the major cities to spread the word the this particular product...reallly stinks.  I wonder if any Anti-trust, or Monopoly lawers would just love to get their grubby hands on this info.
Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:59 AM by Everybody

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Well ... I got me one of these little gizmos as well ... certainly not for logging onto web pages. Can't imagine there isn't something a bit more usefull for the device.

To begin with, we have about 20 employees in our plant and no time clock. You can imagine the trouble this might cause some days, so I thought I could use it as a fingerprint time clock - providing I could find some software. Of course I did, but I have to buy their reader for them to function.

Has anyone heard of a time clock software package for use with the Microsoft (persona) reader. Now that would be a usefull tool.

Cheers
RD
Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:56 PM by rd

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Same problem regarding the screensaver with password protection. I had to reboot the computer manually and finally gave up. I uninstalled the software and type the password the conventional way.
Monday, February 27, 2006 3:44 AM by luke

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I use firefox and do domain logins to a samba box, but my MS fingerprint reader is not totally useless to me.  There is an SDK (and a fee version) put out by Griaule (www.griaule.com.  It allows developers to use it in their apps and it includes a login manager that works great with domain logins (I posted an item on their forum that allows you to use it without the digital persona software conflicting it).  RD - You could use it with a time clock app you write in C, VB, Java, etc.

If I get some time soon, I'll try my hand at a firefox plugin with the SDK, but my plate is full for the next few weeks.
Monday, March 06, 2006 3:39 AM by Chad

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Am trying to write a project on this Fingerprint Reader with my friends in school before we found out it already has been invented, i cant go back in writing another project coz i have little or no time, please mail me if you have any idea on how the Fingerprint Reader was created, what it has in it. mail me at tukurbandito@hotmail.com
Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:16 PM by Kingsley

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

So actually i havent found any firefox plugin for it on the web. it would be very nice if you could  write one. Did you allrad begin working at it?
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:11 AM by Ultr1

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Found a workaround for Firefox on another forum.  Apparently it can't authenticate the passwords individually, but it can authenticate the master password for the keyring (probably due to the generic application support built into the software).  Not quite the same, but it is an improvement.

Eric
Friday, March 17, 2006 12:35 PM by Eric L

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Hrm...  Except for one thing.  Apparently it doesn't work in the newest version.  Maybe this time Firefox broke support for Microsoft? ;)
Friday, March 17, 2006 3:34 PM by Eric L

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I just purchased the Microsoft Optical Mouse with Fingerprint reader today. I used to be an IE user (6.0) so I switched to FF, but since the new IE 7.0 Beta 2 is out I purchased this device and I love it. The only downside to this product is that its not compatible with some products and programs like FF and other third party apps. You should expect this because Microsoft designed the Firmware to work on systems running XP, running Microsoft applications. Know why they did this? Because they have people qualified in those areas/products. I hate to say but FF is just getting outdated for me. Microsoft has done a great job on IE 7.0 Beta 2 and I love using the fingerprint reader with it. I hate how you cant backup passwords though, and you guys are right, they need to provide a firmware update that encrypts the data, so that people can use this device for secure purposes, (eg: online banking). Just to let you FF lovers know anyways, before you purchase the product you must be brain dead or something to not notice the system requirements on the packaging, AND not to mention that this IS a microsoft product which probably with only allow proprietary software and applications!

duhh nuff said.
Jon
Saturday, March 18, 2006 11:06 PM by Jon H

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Since this device is being marketed as a "convenience" product, it needs to take into account the habits of end users. Obviously, the value of this device is to simplify the logins for the dozens of web sites we visit daily. However, how many people use only one browser exclusively? So, if this reader isn't compatible with a browser I often use, that pretty much nullifies the "convenience" factor. Personally, I won't buy a product that makes my life more difficult for the sake of some theoretical "convenience" pitch. Microsoft take note: if another company builds a device that's compatible with both IE and Firefox, your product is pretty much obsolete. How hard could it be to improve on this product? I was ready to buy this device until I learned of its shortcomings.
Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:55 AM by KurtS

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Hey! I'm trying to use the Microsoft Fingerprint Reader to catch the image of the fingerprint, I know it is possible because on the wizard it shows you it.
Please! Please! Please! help me with some information about this. You can contact me at poncejp@hotmail.com

Thanks!
Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:04 AM by Juan Pablo

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I am interested in purchasing one of these devices, however I have a question.  My wife and I both use the same computer.  We both have Hotmail accounts.  The only reason I would want this is for the ability that I could swipe my finger, and it would log me in.  And then later, she could swipe her finger and it would log her into the same site.  We only have a couple sites that we need to log into seperately (ebay, hotmail, yahoo, etc), and I hate using the "fast user switchin" in XP.  I would rather just be able to swipe whoever wants to log in, even though it is at the same page.  Does that make sense?

Thanks, Justin
Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:40 PM by Justin

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Hello, just came across this blog,

Can we use the MS fingerprint reader to capture a raw image (jpeg,bmp,etc..) of the fingerprint just like from a normal scanner?

Me doing a project on fingerprint recognition and would appreciate any reply.
Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:28 PM by Yadu Kishore

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

FYI...Firefox extension for the Fingerprint Reader. Swim at your own risk: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/microsoft-fingerprint-reader-firefox-extension-170449.php
Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:20 PM by Michael Swanson

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Hi, I have a digitalPersona fingerprint reader, but it is old, i works with a old software named U.are.U, but this software is not availble for Windows XP, I download the microsoft fingerprint software and install it, then I didn't have any problem, but when I try to use the wizard and scan my first finger apper a message seying: These scans is not suitable to register your fingerprint. To try again, touch your fingerprint reader with your right index finger.
Does anyone know how can I make to work my fingerprint?
Thanks
( I review tha regedit and I found few lines with U.are.U reader, mayby changing the lines with a diferent identificator, can you helpme to do this just lelling me how apperar the identificator por microsoft reader)  
Sunday, April 30, 2006 12:50 PM by mcweber

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Ok I give up - can anyone tell me how to delete a entry from the MS finger print reader quick list once the web site it points to is deleted or gets redirected?

Thanks, Rob
Sunday, April 30, 2006 5:37 PM by Rob Latour

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I have a reader on my tablet that uses Omnipass, and after using it for some time, I decded to purchase the microsoft reader for my PC. Although it works well, there are several sites that I have multiple accounts for work, and personal. ie. I bank personally at the same place I bank with my business. Another example would be opening quickbooks for my company, and for me personally. So, with Omnipass, I can choose different user profiles for the same user that allows me to switch between a work profile and a business profile and open different accounts on the same client or web site. I notice that the packaged software for the Microsoft reader won't allow me to do this. Has anyone tried the Mreader work with the Omnipass software, and know which of the three drivers I would need to install 'if' it works?
Monday, May 08, 2006 12:45 PM by AndrewL

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

One things that bothers me and from what I have read, most if not all the posts say the same thing. What they are not saying is that " For this to be truly an effective peice of hardware and software. The software needs to auto generate a password. Too many people that are sloppy and I know a few. They use the same username and password with some minor varitiations on all their websites. Why did they not right the software to autosuggest a password to use?
Monday, May 08, 2006 7:04 PM by Dave

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

OK, the problems I'm having no one else has mentioned. I absolutely LOVE this thing. I had been using PWsafe to store my passwords and so had fairly secure passwords. The convenience of the reader was a blessing. I went back and bought a second for my laptop (not installed yet).

This was last month, when the bad Windows update came out and screwed up MS Office for some. I started having problems with Excel and Word crashing (still using Office 97). After numerous exchanges with MS support, it was determined that it was the DigitalPersona software crashing Office. This was confirmed by uninstalling and reinstalling the DP software.

Calling DP and listening to their recording, I learned a few things:

They don't support the software included with the MS reader, referring callers to MS support.

They acknowledge incompatibility with XP SP2.

They are only interested in enterprise customers.

My MS tech that had been working on my problem is trying to bail, saying I must deal with DigitalPersona.

Help, anyone?

Mike
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:01 AM by Mike Earls

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

QUOTE: They are only interested in enterprise customers. "

Uhhhh, not the way I see it. The damn thing doesn;t even support Domain Logins, and the data is NOT ENCRYPTED. I hope the people using this don't think their passwords are safe by ANY stretch of the imagination. We bought one to test against our standalone, encrypted login readers, and to be honest, this is a JOKE if DigitalPersona thinks they'll get into the "Enterprise" with this software.

Chalk up another SysAdmin who's going to try and educate some more people about how unsafe these things are.
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:22 PM by Josh

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

update to above post:

Incompatibilities existed with their own personal versions, not the version they created for use with the MS reader.

By contractual agreement with MS, DP cannot provide any support for the MS included software. It is totally the responsibility of MS to support.

DP's own software will not work with MS reader, only their own.

Opened a second ticket with MS today without benefit. The most likely culprit appears to be my old Office 97. MS swears they have no other reports of problems similar to mine.

Mike
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:38 PM by Mike1951

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Clarification to Josh:

I was talking about DigitalPersona, not MS.

DP has dropped their non-enterprise products and no longer support them.

Also, I don't have a security issue 99% of the time. I live alone and no visitors. I don't even have a Windows logon password. But for websites, where I might access from my laptop somewhere other than home, I have good passwords. The reader provided an instant login as opposed to typing in a long pw.

I use PWsafe to generate long, secure passwords and use the reader as a shortcut to use those passwords and also to log into PWsafe.

PWsafe dumps the memorized password from the clipboard after some minutes, so I found myself retyping PWsafe's very long password often.

Mike
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:35 PM by Mike1951

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I echo Rob's question above.

Ok I give up - can anyone tell me how to delete a entry from the MS finger print reader quick list once the web site it points to is deleted or gets redirected?
Monday, May 15, 2006 10:20 PM by Jon B

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Apparently, each login is stored in individual .dpm files.

The problem is that the file names are cryptic and non-descript so knowing while file to delete is the problem.

If someone could decipher the filename or find a way to view the contents, it might be possible.

Otherwise, it only allows you to delete a login from that page, which in your case, no longer exists.

Mike
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:15 AM by Mike1951

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

ok so here is how I found which files contain which links:

open up a DOS window (can you beleive it) and at the venerable c:> prompt enter the following command:

cd "C:\Documents and Settings\xxx\Application Data\DigitalPersona\OTS\Templates"

where xxx is your xp user sign on name.  

Next enter the command:

find "quicklink" *.dpm >listing.txt

Following this, use ms notepad to open up listing.txt to see which files belongs to which quick list picks.

You can then delete the .dpm file(s) you don't want.

Finally, you need to log off and log on again before the quick list picks disappear.

Hope this is of help to others,

Rob

PS: Michael - thank you for sponsoring this forum
Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:33 PM by Rob

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I found the last post on deleting microsoft fingerprint logons when I also discovered the unusual lack of editing/deleting features in this product. To clarify: once you create a logon for a particilar app there is no straightforward way (short of opening the dos box and finding the hidden directory) of correcting a mistake. Other than this strange absence of a vital feature, it is a cool technology.
Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:28 PM by Keith Dipboye

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I have the microsoft fingerprint reader and i would like to log in to a program. The problem is, that the software does not recognize the form on the screen as a login screen. I tried the following: I wrote a little visual basic dialog with just 2 textboxes for username and password and an Ok button. When i run this programm in the vb development environment, it is recognized as a login screen. When i compile it to an exe-file and start it, it is not recognized as login screen. Does someone have an idea, what criteria the software uses to recognize a login screen?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:46 PM by Konrad Grampp

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Keith - That is my number one complaint after using it for the better part of two years.
Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:16 AM by Steve Andrews

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Hi all. I have a question about this Reader: is it possible to use the Microsoft Fingerprint Reader to obtain an ID code of a fingerprint? The idea is have a list of "authorised" persons that would be identified by a fingerprint code. Or is Microsoft Fingerprint Reader only dedicated to protect one's computer + password manager? If this is the case, do you know any peripheral/gadget (USB if possible) that would simply provide a "fingerprint ID Code" when someone's finger is put on the device?
Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:28 AM by Patrice

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Hi, I just bought the Intellimouse with fingerprint reader.  Im having some problems with this thing.  Apparently, when i open msn messenger, and put my finger on the reader, i then enter all the information, and save it.  then i put my finger on the reader again and it puts in my username and password, and then tries to sign in but says, the password field is empty.  Its really weird.  Ive tried it on two computers and same problem.  If i cant fix this then im returning this thing.  Please help if you can.  Thanks
Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:46 PM by Matt

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

What has annoyed me and quite frankly makes me restrict the use of the fingerprint reader is the fact that you cannot get the software nor has there been an update to the software to auto generate a password. Most of the problems with password security is that most people use the same password or a variation of the same password for all of their websites or login.Yes basically I am saying that if the software was rewritten the lazy persons way would to have a password auto generated then maybe things might be more secure.  
Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:48 AM by Dave Copeland

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Dave,

I use Password Safe to autogenerate the password of up to 32 characters.

Then paste that into the fingerprint reader script.

So I have secure passwords without giving up the ease of the fingerprint reader.

Mike
Monday, July 31, 2006 1:13 AM by Mike Earls

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Hi Matt
This is a known issue with MSN Messenger, and is noted on the MS website.
MSN Messenger is looking for actual physical keystrokes and not copied passwords entered by some remote program, for security reasons.
To get by this I make sure I've selected the "Do not submit" logon option when I first register the fingerprint information for MSN.
Then when I want to logon using the fingerprint reader, I select the password box, and press the back arrow, then the Sign On button. If this seems like a lot of work, it's still less keystrokes then typing my password.
Maybe someone will come up with a real solution.
Monday, July 31, 2006 1:21 AM by Greg

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I have used both the APC biometric fingerprint reader and Microsoft's.  I am miserable with the Microsoft Digital Password Manager--what a piece of crap.  The APC is far superior.  Why are there no software upgrades available?  Why can't you easily delete an entry?  Why can't you "unmask" your own passwords?  Why does it not always recognize a log-in, even though the upper right icon shows that there is a fingerprint stored?  Worthless!!!!
Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:51 AM by Kim

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

Hi everyone,

I just switched to Win XP x64. Is there a 64 bit driver available for the fingerprint reader?

Thanks
Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:00 AM by Benoit

# re: Microsoft Fingerprint Reader

I am curious about all the discussion on how the device is not compatable with Firefox. Firefox frustrates me because to view a video on MSNBC you are instructed to download IE 6. I stopped using Firefox and and moved to IE7 because of