PDC05 Sessions Online

re: PDC05 Sessions Online

Kannan — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:31:35 GMT

Are these sessions available for offline viewing ? I remember in from your earlier post that this is being considered ?

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Kannan — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:33:32 GMT

Sorry about that, I just saw the download link, I'm extremely happy. thanks a ton.

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Shital Shah — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:51:37 GMT

Awesome doesn't seems to be enough word to describe this. This can happen only from MS :). I think you have help start a new trend in the developer world. BTW, is these available internally on any share (just to avoid long times in downloads)?

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Mike Dunn — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:21:21 GMT

Um, I thought the folks who attended the PDC were getting the DVDs for free.

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Edward — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:13:03 GMT

They are, thats why it says "All attendees will automatically receive the DVD set"

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Carlos — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:25:04 GMT

I've just viewed a couple of the presentations online and I have to say they are really good. The audio is very clear and the current slide appearing alongside the video is a nice touch. Well done!

re: PDC05 Sessions Online

(6) — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:49:23 GMT

The website doesn't appear to work too well in Firefox. In fact it's completely broken. :(

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zzz — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:54:19 GMT

This is awesome, but a few questions:

"(attendee price: $199, non-attendee price: $499). All attendees will automatically receive the DVD set"

Is that to be read "attendees paid $199 in their PDC ticket price for the DVD"?

Free download of 27 GB is very cool versus the $499 for non-attendees. Can this be interpreted as support of Bill Gates statement that cd/dvd medium is dead and bandwidth is cheap enough for MS to prefer everyone to download this? Great message to put out if true! It is nice to see MS to support putting an end to needless waste that the cd/dvd are. Now if only we get the promised paperless office finally here...

re: PDC05 Sessions Online

snoozing — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:12:51 GMT

I chuckled a bit with your statement, "If the thought of spending 46 full days downloading ... via a 56K dial-up connection...".

56k dial-up? But then I tried downloading a couple of presentations just now. Yikes, I am on a high speed broadband connection and I am averaging about 4KB/sec transfer rates from the sitestream site. Ugh! I tested my connection and I get normal fast downloads form other sites, so I know the performance problem is not on my side.

I only plan on downloading a few of the presentations for offline viewing, and this is a snoozer, so I hope they get some faster bandwidth in the next 6 months.

Is anyone else seeing the same slow downloads?

re: PDC05 Sessions Online

mswanson — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 01:11:15 GMT

Mike Dunn/zzz: yes, PDC05 attendees will automatically receive the DVD set. It’s a free benefit for attending the conference.

(6): Our apologies for the Firefox incompatibility. Unfortunately, all of the content was assembled using Microsoft Producer, and its most recent version—which is still a couple of years old—doesn’t appear to generate Firefox-friendly output.

zzz: Regarding delivery of the content via online methods versus physical media, the online session downloads were added specifically because of blogger and e-mail feedback. We have many users who can’t easily download 27GB, so DVDs still make sense for them.

snoozing: It seems that the content we’re delivering is in very high demand at the moment. I would expect the situation to improve as time goes on.

Kannan/Carlos: thanks for the feedback. We're glad that you find the content to be useful.

re: PDC05 Sessions Online

John Bates — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:10:30 GMT

Thanks for putting this online. Couldn't make it from Australia this year.

A site performance issue though: the Javascript builds links to a spacer.gif image. This causes a number of pending server hits when a new category is selected (I saw ~70 for the Communication page). This could be done once in a CSS style to avoid the server overhead.

re: PDC05 Sessions Online

Mike Dunn — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:34:16 GMT

OK, the "attendee price: $199" part is what caught my eye.

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zzz — Thu, 27 Oct 2005 00:07:51 GMT

John: Yes that is hilarious. The server is getting bombarded with 80 TCP connections on every click! They coded the page so it would DOS itself to crawling. No wonder the presentation stream pics and .zips are coming at blazing 2 KB/s. The streaming wmv however comes fine so it looks like the bandwidth is not the problem, but the way the site is implemented. The gigs of .zips do not seem to be load balanced properly either.

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mswanson — Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:20:13 GMT

We've been in contact with our vendor and hosting provider about the response issues, and the problem has been escalated. We hope to have a solution soon.

zzz: You're right that the issue isn't bandwidth...we're using a fraction of what is available. Streaming seems to be just fine. It's the HTTP requests that appear to be the source of the problem.

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Ian Thomas — Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:24:57 GMT

I agree with snoozing - 3Kb/s is what I've been suffering, which is is slower than dialup.

I've given up - maybe in a week or two I'll try again - is it congestion?

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Simon Stewart — Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:58:00 GMT

Thanks for the links!

Hopefully I can download them as trying to watching streaming video from here in Africa is aweful painful.

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Lance Fisher — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:49:40 GMT

Sweet! I'll be waiting for my DVDs. Thank you, and everyone else involved.

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zz — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:55:30 GMT

What I don't understand is why the downloads were not placed on the microsoft servers? Why delegate it to a third party?

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snoozing — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:14:47 GMT

The Sitestream URL in Michael's post is now DEAD!!

Hopefully they are working on the problem to get the site back up.

===========================================
Service Address:

This service address is not currently active as a website on this server.
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re: PDC05 Sessions Online

mswanson — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:27:45 GMT

zz/snoozing: Our hosting provider made some configuration changes to address the response issues we were seeing. The messages you mention showed up during the transition (I saw them too). Fortunately, it looks like we're in good shape again.

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snoozing — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:20:39 GMT

"...it looks like we're in good shape again."

Nope, as of the date and time of this posting, the status has not changed for the URLs (still not working).

re: PDC05 Sessions Online

mswanson — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:32:33 GMT

snoozing: I just tried again, and it's working fine on multiple machines. Can you clear your browser cache and try to reload it? If that doesn't work, please use the Contact Me link on the left, and perhaps we can figure it out.

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snoozing — Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:10:57 GMT

Last Friday I tried clearing the cache, using a different computer, etc., but couldn't connect to the site. This morning (Monday), all is working fine, with 2-3MB/sec downloads, and I quickly got the presentations I needed.

With the kinks seemingly worked out now, this is a great service offered by Microsoft.

Thanks Michael, for taking time to respond and for looking into this problem.

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