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Let's talk like people

On Mark Rosenfelder's Zompist web site I found a series of cultural guides named How to tell if you're ‹nationality. All of the entries are simultaneously funny and insightful, such as this one from Turkey:

A company can fire just about anybody it wants. But it will also hire anybody.

For some reason, my favorite is this one from the Polish entry:

When you negotiate, you are polite, of course, but it's only good business to 'play hardball'. You don't say what you mean, you pretend not to know many things, but you surely never lie. You know the other side does the same thing, and they know you know. Many people are tired of it, so they start talking normally. You say "let's talk like people" then.

I like how the Poles understand that it's all an act, and they have a code for saying, "This is stupid."

While you're there, you should also check out The Zompist Phrasebook, the absolutely worst phrasebook you'll ever find that's still hilarious.

Published Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:00 AM by oldnewthing
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# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:43 AM by Tom

That Zompist Phrasebook is awesome.  Some of the phrases from the Special Internet Section could apply here. :)

# The intellectual quote

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:27 AM by Nathan

(at least the first one) I expect to see you dropping at the Seattle film-fest...

# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:48 AM by jeffdav

The phrasebook is very funny.  I'll be taking a hard copy with me to Paris.  I can't wait to tell them all how I speak French.

# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:53 AM by KJK::Hyperion

Ha, what a coincidence, just yesterday I was checking out http://www.zompist.com/robot.htm

# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:34 PM by Jeffrey

"The absolutely worst phrasebook you'll ever find that's still hilarious"?

No, I think that has to be English As She Is Spoke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_As_She_Is_Spoke

# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:00 PM by Cody

Sorry to bring a Polish joke to the fight but from the Polish page:

[You know how basketball ... [is] played. ... You have no idea how basketball ... [is] played.]

[That second "basketball" was clearly a typo for "baseball". Maybe Zompist needs its own Nitpicker's Ccorner. -Raymond]

# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:34 PM by Gwyn

My hovercraft is full of eels

# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:14 PM by Brian

My favorite:

Impressed as I am with the New Wave in cinematography, I must say that this particular film seemed both pretentious and unsatisfying, and that the director's imagery, though compelling, is no substitute for a true cinematic message.

Der Film ist Scheiße.

# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:18 PM by KJK::Hyperion

"I admire you above all for your purity of spirit and your appreciation of the arts.

* J'aimerais bien une petite gâterie, ma jolie.

* Si quieres chuparme el pito, no voy a protestar.

* Willst du mir nicht mal einen blasen, Schätzchen?"

I had no idea some colloquialisms were so strikingly similar across languages

# Cut the Politics « notgartner

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:55 PM by Cut the Politics « notgartner

# re: Let's talk like people

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:24 PM by mike

man the australian version of that was absolutely terrible.

# re: Let's talk like people

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:31 AM by Jivlain

mike's right. That "Aussie" version was awful.

Memo to self: stop typing passwords in URL box.

Memo to Raymond: Come up with fancy Javascript to catch my text input in the URL field and AJAX it to server. You'd get all my passwords :p

# re: Let's talk like people

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:45 AM by Centaur

I understand that part of the phrases in the Phrasebook are intentionally misleading, but some of those that aren’t, suffer from horrible mistranslation into Russian.

# re: Let's talk like people

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:49 AM by Walter

I love Langenscheidts Konversationsbuch English-Deutsch: http://deuceofclubs.com/books/003lang.htm

# re: Let's talk like people

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:22 AM by dmz

> I understand that part of the phrases in the Phrasebook are intentionally misleading

I don't know... Being Pole I sadly agree with, like, 99,99% of the "facts" in Polish entry.

Anyway, it took me a while to translate "Let's talk like people" back into Polish. If I'm correct, this is "Porozmawiajmy jak ludzie" (more "human beings" than "people", never the less the original entry is great). It is used by one one side when he/she thinks that he/she will not get even the acceptable minimum. Or something like that.

# re: Let's talk like people

Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:18 AM by Cheong

I guess I'm not Chinese after all: I don't know how to use a slingshot, and I get only 3-days holiday in Spring Festival. :O

# re: Let's talk like people

Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:35 PM by Burak KALAYCI

I think Zompist got it around 90% right about Turkey.

'everyone is a millionaire' - That has changed when Turkey dropped 6 zeros from her currency a couple of years ago.

'you'll have a Christmas tree and will exchange gifts-- on New Year's Eve' - So true.

# re: Let's talk like people

Friday, June 01, 2007 7:19 AM by victor

It's true the phrasebook is all you need to go around the globe. However, the Spanish version doesn't make justice to the effective messages in English... :-(

# re: Let's talk like people

Monday, June 04, 2007 10:09 AM by Dom

Lies, all lies! ;-)

Seriously, spent 24 years of my life in Poland and this is the first time I saw "let's talk like people" phrase. We do say "let's talk like grown ups", but that's used if you intend to insult your "oponent". We do say "stop this BS". Lets talk like people? Never.

# re: Let's talk like people

Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:30 AM by Medinoc

Well, the French version fits French people perfectly.

The "anti-translations" in the phrasebook are funny, but I agree Centaur, some of the "normal" translations look a bit strange.

# re: Let's talk like people

Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:39 PM by Justin

The swedes are very observant.

"If a man has sex with another man, he is probably a homosexual, otherwise he would not enjoy it at all."

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