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Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Rachmaninov's Prelude in C# minor, Op. 3, No. 2, performed as it is written, by classical music comedy duo Igudesman & Joo.

I tried to learn that piece once. I didn't last long.

Published Friday, November 21, 2008 7:00 AM by oldnewthing
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# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 10:07 AM by Nathan_works

The rach.. Not knowing much about it, all I can think of is "Shine" and the guy breaking down while playing "the Rach".

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 10:50 AM by Waage

Hmm, this has probably been brought up before but either you are very accurate on when you publish your blog entries or your blog entry clock is broken :D

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 11:02 AM by Steve Hazel

I love that video.

You probably came across that link from the amazing piano world forum:

http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

Absolutely the best forum ever of piano players.  People from everywhere and tons of em.  More piano knowledge than you can possibly imagine all bottled up in one (not so little) site.

I go there at least twice a week.

Almost as often as I come here :)

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 11:28 AM by daves561

This prelude isn't that technically challenging. The chords sound big, but they're no more than an octave stretch throughout. There are much harder Rachmaninoff preludes.

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 12:03 PM by James Schend

Waaaaaaaaaage: smart bloggers schedule their entries, so they can create a buffer of entries to be posted on days you don't feel like blogging. Raymond does that to an insane degree; he's something like 3-4 months ahead on posts. :)

Anyway, the clock's not broken.

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 1:08 PM by Martin McNulty

I found it pretty challenging - one of my proudest moments finally managing to perform this one!  

And some of the chords are definitely more than an octave stretch, if you perform it 'as written'.  The usual way is to jump from one part of a chord to another so quickly that it pretty much sounds like they're on the same beat, I believe, but in order to hit all the notes at exactly the same time, you'd probably need four hands - or a large piece of wood ;)

Of course, it's been a while since I played it - caveat lector(?)

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 1:53 PM by Maurits

The obvious solution is to build a piano with a narrower keyboard.

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 2:01 PM by daves561

I just got out the score and played through it. There are four bars in the fast section and two bars in the slow section that have a bracket showing a bass note(s) synchronized with higher stuff. As they exceed even the composer's stretch, obviously you have to jump. All other chords are an octave or less in span.

Even within the piece, there are more difficult things to worry about: Articulating the quarter notes over the triplets in the Allegro is the tough stuff here, in my opinion.

# C# minor

Friday, November 21, 2008 2:45 PM by Wil

After reading the first 5 words the first thing that I thought was someone created a C# dialect called "C# minor" and Rachmaninov gives a Prelude/introduction to it.

...then I saw the Op. 3, No. 2.

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Friday, November 21, 2008 9:03 PM by KTC

The sad thing is, I had similar thoughts.... *sigh* I need to get out more! :D

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:40 AM by Sven Groot

That's actually a pretty impressive performance of that piece. :)

I love Rachmaninov, he's my favourite composer. I never attempted any of his pieces back when I played piano though, I never got near that level.

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:43 AM by Will Hughes

Clever - I like it.

They wouldn't have needed such big hands if they'd compiled the performance from it's original C# Minor down to MSIL.

*runs away*

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:52 AM by Dave

Didn't british comedian Rainer Hersch do this sketch long before Igudesman and Joo did?

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Monday, November 24, 2008 8:04 AM by Mark

Dave: yes, but not with as much showmanship.

http://www.igudesmanandjoo.com/?show=debat&id=6&tid=62#jump

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Monday, November 24, 2008 8:04 AM by Mark

Dave: yes, but not with as much showmanship.

See also http://www.igudesmanandjoo.com/?show=debat&id=6&tid=62#jump

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Monday, November 24, 2008 10:07 AM by jcoehoorn

Be honest now:  How many saw the key of the piece first and thought, "Oh no; he's blogging about .Net again?"

# Adventures As Me » Blog Archive » Igudesman & Joo: classic comedy

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Monday, November 24, 2008 11:22 AM by Maurits

The .Net comments are actually fairly close to the mark.

The language - "C Sharp" - is spelled with a hash mark or pound sign, "C#".  Even on the official documentation.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vcsharp/aa336809.aspx

The Rachmaninov prelude is spelled with a "sharp" sign, "C♯ minor".

# re: Rachmaninov had big hands: An illustration

Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:12 PM by David Conrad

It's easier to play the Prelude in VB mixolydian.

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