Watching the game of "Telephone" play out on the Internet

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Brent Newbury — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:50:34 GMT

That's chinese whispers for you. A pure case of people not checking their facts before publishing.

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Mr Cynical — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:57:18 GMT

"A pure case of people not checking their facts before publishing."

Welcome to the internet... thankfully places of respite (such as this site) do exist.

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jonathanh — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:34:24 GMT

Typo? I think you mean 'says that the word "podcast" is a "faux-pas"'

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James Schend — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:48:17 GMT

Ok, "welcome to the Internet" indeed, but I'd expect better of, at the very least, the Seattle PI, since they're:
1) A print media, not solely online,
2) aware of the huge ruckus that's been thrown over the New York Times' problems in this area,
3) owned by a company that has a monopoly over Seattle-area news distribution.

(BTW, number 3 there is really sad... do other cities have a newspaper monopoly, or is Seattle it? I'd hope this isn't a common thing... but the realist in me thinks it probably is.)

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John Goewert — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:53:24 GMT

I think the comments over at CNets page are hillarious, ferverous anti-MS stuff.

Blogcast is 1000% better than podcast as "podcast" says to me: This will only play on an iPod. If you don't own an iPod, don't even bother downloading it.

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vince — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:58:51 GMT

While we're at it can we get the term "blog" banned? I think it's one of the worst words ever invented.

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ATZ Man — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:59:52 GMT

In San Diego, CA, there's only one major city paper. Within memory it was the "Union" in the morning and the "Tribune" in the afternoon, and "Union-Tribune" on Sunday (roughly two sets of journalists). It is now the UT all the time, and I think it has been a very long time since the two papers were independent businesses. Such arrangements are actually common and almost always given a go-ahead by the anti-trust authorities, because it is seen as important to have a surviving paper rather than no paper. There are two suburban papers in the San Diego area, and they both seem like healthy businesses. Perhaps in Seattle there are suburban papers?

You can scan the "Language Log" blog for instances of different sports writers quoting the same statement from the same athlete and all quoting it differently, and never matching the transcript of the news conference at which the athlete spoke. For example, http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002263.html

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Merle — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:01:28 GMT

Vince: hear, hear! Let's ban "blog".

It's even worse than "website" (meaning "web site", of course).

re: newspaper market monopolies

kbiel — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:54:40 GMT

<i>(BTW, number 3 there is really sad... do other cities have a newspaper monopoly, or is Seattle it? I'd hope this isn't a common thing... but the realist in me thinks it probably is.)</i>

It has become more common over time as print news has had a difficult time competing with broadcast and online media to the point that competition among newspapers is unsustainable in a lot of big cities. OTOH, some of the monopolies (Dallas Morning News, for example) were created before the internet became a major news distribution point.

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Matt — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:34:10 GMT

Oy. I personally think it doesn't matter. Some of the terms that are bred out of technology just sound dumb linguistically.

From Bad to Funny

John Goewert — Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:55:12 GMT

Auntie Spam, who is a writer for LockerGnome (owned by Chris Pirillo) just contributed to the chain...

http://www.aunty-spam.com/whats-in-a-name-the-blogcast-formerly-known-as-podcast/

From podcast to blogcast to Microsoft ban

TomorrowYesterday — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:27:23 GMT

The Old New Thing : Watching the game of "Telephone" play out on the Internet First, Chris Pirillo says (timecode 37:59) he's not entirely pleased with the word "podcast" in Episode 11 of This Week in Tech. The Seattle-PI then...

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EAW — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:10:16 GMT

I used to hate "blog" too, but what do you suggest to replace it? "Journal", "Diary", "Periodical", and "Magazine" all fail to describe what "Blog" does.

And I don't understand not liking "website". It's how people ending up saying it, so why not form a new label?

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vince — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:42:39 GMT

EAW:
> but what do you suggest to replace it?

I don't even mind "web-log". It's just something about "blog" that grates, especially how it has been verbed and adjectived.

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Michel — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:04:23 GMT

Blogcast? Try saying that 10 times and not gag.

Podcast Podcast Podcast

scooblog by josh ledgard — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:19:46 GMT

&lt;Looks left&gt; &lt;Looks right&gt; Wow, I'm still here and no one has taped my mouth shut.&nbsp;...

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JenK — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:04:53 GMT

</i>3) owned by a company that has a monopoly over Seattle-area news distribution. </i>

FYI, the P-I is owned by Hearst Corporation. It is printed & distributed via a Joint Operating Agreement (JOA) with the privately owned Seattle Times Company. ;)

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EAW — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:57:12 GMT

Vince:
Yeah, "weblog" or "web-log" was my last stand too. But working on a blogging product, surrounded by people who use "blog" as both a noun and verb (and probably adjective eventually) , has worn me down.

Let's welcome our new blog overlord! Everyone get a blog! And blog your blog every day (It's all very blog).

(apologies for the thread hijack)

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Al — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:47:37 GMT

vince: "It's just something about "blog" that grates, especially how it has been verbed and adjectived."

You just verbed "verb" and "adjective".

But anyway I never really minded blog and in fact actually have always felt a bit awkward saying weblog/web log/web-log/whatever. I think that's probably just because blog is so popular that I feel like I'm speaking in Middle English! And no-one feels right doing that in daily conversation.

So... back to the "podcast"/"blogcast" topic...

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