Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

davidmohara — Wed, 09 May 2007 15:12:56 GMT

I have dual monitors at work (same size/res) and when I RDP from home (single monitor), the taskbar is resized (down from 2 line to 1) in spite of being "locked". Is there a config settings I can use to prevent this?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Gaurav Daga [MSFT] — Thu, 10 May 2007 20:39:34 GMT

Please help us with the following:

• The exact monitor resolutions for the three monitor involved in the repro (1 at home and 2 in office).

• The relative position of primary vs. secondary monitor in his office.

• Location of Taskbar: in the primary or secondary monitor in his office.

• Is this a consistent repro?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

davidmohara — Fri, 11 May 2007 15:36:03 GMT

1. All 3 are 19" set at 1280x1024

2. Office monitors are primary on right, seconary on the left.

3. Taskbar is on the primary (right) monitor

4. This is a 100% repro

I also noticed that it pulls off the styling on the toolbar as well. Not sure if that's helpful but I figured I'd mention it.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Pai-Hung Chen [MSFT] — Sat, 12 May 2007 10:12:19 GMT

Could you verify that you RDP to the same console session as you think it should be?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

翻译公司 — Sat, 12 May 2007 13:02:29 GMT

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re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

davidmohara — Mon, 14 May 2007 16:02:52 GMT

Yes, it is the correct session (all my desktop, running apps and quicklaunch icons are the same).

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Pai-Hung Chen [MSFT] — Mon, 14 May 2007 17:39:22 GMT

If you change your office machine to single-mon, does it still repro?

Having Troubles Getting Session Broker Load Balancing To Work

M.Roth — Tue, 15 May 2007 15:33:08 GMT

I'm having some trouble getting Session Broker Load Balancing to work. Here's what I did so far:

1. Install the session broker on a DC

2. Add two other Terminal Servers to the Session Broker Computers Group

3. Configure all the correct TS Broker settings on tsconfig.msc (GPO doesn't seem to work)

4. Added two DNS records: ts-farm with the IP address of server1 and another ts-farm with the IP address of server2.

5. I fire up mstsc on one of my Longhorn servers (does the Vista mstsc also do the trick?) and connect to the DNS name ts-farm.

Now here's the weird part: I can not authenticate to that "server" no matter what credentials I use. If I connect to any one of those Terminal Server directly, these credentials work fine.

Any ideas?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Pai-Hung Chen [MSFT] — Wed, 16 May 2007 05:40:24 GMT

Does the taskbar issue repro with Session Broker Load Balancing? Does it repro without it?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Dave Dopson [MSFT] — Thu, 17 May 2007 03:41:12 GMT

M.Roth:

To answer one of your questions, any RDP 5.2 or later client should work with Session Broker, so Vista, or even the XP client should be fine.

I am curious to learn more about your deployment so I can help troubleshoot the issue you are experiencing. From your description, it sounds like you have things set up correctly. Do you have an email address that I can use to start a correspondence?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

M.Roth — Thu, 17 May 2007 16:40:28 GMT

Hi Dave Dopson,

Thanks for your response. Please reach me at

mrdizzz -at- gmail.com

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Gaurav Daga [MSFT] — Fri, 18 May 2007 21:02:38 GMT

David,

We are unable to reproduce the issue you are seeing on our end. Is there an e-mail ID we can communicate with you on to get more details?

Thanks.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Dean Hall — Sun, 27 May 2007 01:39:53 GMT

I have the same problem as davidmohara. Everytime I run Remote Desktop, it resizes my taskbar, and I have to manually resize it.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Gaurav Daga [MSFT] — Thu, 31 May 2007 20:40:01 GMT

Dean

Thanks for the report. Please help with the same details we requested from David.

• The exact monitor resolutions for the three monitor involved in the repro (1 at home and 2 in office).

• The relative position of primary vs. secondary monitor in your office.

• Location of Taskbar: in the primary or secondary monitor in your office.

Thanks

Gaurav

Dialogs still in on the seam

WestTexan — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:54:32 GMT

I've set up a Server 2008 Beta 3 machine and configured a few RemoteApp programs. I'm connecting to it from a dual-monitor (primary on left, both 1280x1024) Vista Enterprise client. When I connect using span monitors:i:1, all dialogs appear in the middle of the two screens, the same annoying behavior as when I use full Remote Desktop with the /span switch. RemoteApp seems like it will be a good solution to many problems, but ff these dialogs continue to pop up in the middle, just behind the seam of the two monitors, this annoyance will limit it's practicality. The best implementation of dual monitor support on a remote machine is with VMWare Workstation 6.0. Whenever RDP can do it like that, I'll be ditching the majority of my local apps in favor of running them on a terminal server. Until then, I just like having multiple monitors too much to give one up.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

翻译公司 — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:12:22 GMT

am curious to learn more about your deployment so I can help troubleshoot the issue you are experiencing. From your description, it sounds like you have things set up correctly. Do you have an email address that I can use to start a correspondence?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

上海翻译公司 — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:13:13 GMT

I have the same problem as davidmohara. Everytime I run Remote Desktop, it resizes my taskbar, and I have to manually resize it.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Hugo Ahlenius — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:34:43 GMT

Hi, I am seeing the same problems with the taskbar resizing - on a dual monitor Vista Urtimate 32-bit machine. I am willing to help you diagnose it more closely, if needed - you can reach me at rdp_taskbar-at-oxel.net.

Thanks.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Denis Chicoine — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:19:13 GMT

Hello,

I'm trying to use any Windows 2008 Applications that I previously published using RemoteApp manager and I can successfully lunch the application but I can't cross my application on my second monitor. The line span monitors:i:1 is there and I can succesfully expand my full Remote Desktop session on both monitor. Any Idea ?

I'm using Windows VP Pro SP2 with RDP 6.0 as my client computer.

Thanks

Denis Chicoine

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

termserv — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:17:26 GMT

Denis:

The RDP 6.0 client does not support RemoteApp spanning, but the one in XP SP3 (and Vista SP1) will do so.

Rob [MSFT]

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Liam — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:55:22 GMT

Hi,

This porbly won't get read being 2 months after last post but anyways!

I've got session broking set up on 3 win2k8 Ts's (RC1's) and can connect using the farm name on each of them.

I can't directly connect to the servers though using their machine name nor their IP address - everytime it just starts a session on the next available server as if its still trying to share the load.

Is anyone elses experiencing this?

Thx

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Ad — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:14:13 GMT

I'm also experiencing the taskbar resizing from 2 lines to 1 when I RDP into my office session from home.

As requested of others, details as follow:

Office resolution: 1280x1024 and 1280x1024 (left monitor primary)

Home resolution: 1280x1024 (single monitor)

Office taskbar location: On the left primary monitor

It's also worth noting I reduce the color quality down to 16 bit in the RDP client, and I'm using Vista 32bit (at home) to connect into XP 32bit (at office)

This seems to be a problem afflicting more than one person - is there any fix available?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

vmarkovsky — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:11:57 GMT

If i need RemoteApp only, how i can disable Remote Desktop on Server for users?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

生活污水处理 — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:39:41 GMT

Hello,

I'm using Windows VP Pro SP2 with RDP 6.0 as my client computer.

Thanks

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

同传设备 — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:22:31 GMT

If the administrator has already generated the RDP file(s) by using the RemoteApp Wizard and pushed them on to the client computer, she will have to manually edit the RDP file(s) on that client computer to set the span monitors field to 0, i.e. it should read span monitors:i:0.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Wagner — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:05:23 GMT

I have two monitors at work (19" 1440x900) and one at home (17" 1280x1024). When I RDP from home I can see only one of the monitors. How can I switch to the second monitor and back?

Thanks

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Patrick Rouse — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:17:19 GMT

You don't. The only options you have are to connect to the primary monitor or to span the Remote Desktop Connection across both remote monitors using mstsc.exe's /span switch. This option is available in the Windows RDP Client 6.x.

Patrick Rouse

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Scott — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:19:04 GMT

Has the client OS requirements change for running remote-apps across multi-monitors?

TS Web Access RemoteApp Multiple Monitor Issue

Matt Williamson’s Blog — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:38:08 GMT

I just discovered that my remote apps would only work on my main monitor because my primary monitor is

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Mr Piche — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:33:34 GMT

Is it possible to modify the compression on the server side besause I need a lossless compression of the GUI of the application on the client side ?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

termserv — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:12:12 GMT

RDP does not use lossy compression.

Rob [MSFT]

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

WLD — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:29:27 GMT

RDP not 100% transfer video, picture can be different, so RDP does use lossy compression somethimes :)

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Mr Piche — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:17:35 GMT

Is there a way to force the use of something like LZW instead, so that video transfer are perfect ?

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Mr Piche — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:48:06 GMT

Here is an example of lossy result from remoteApp

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43059470@N05/3970221214/sizes/l/

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Mr Piche — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:05:01 GMT

Dear Mr Rob

What do you think of my flikr picture ?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43059470@N05/3970221214/sizes/l/

Is there a way to avoid this ?

Thanks

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Voicu — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:19:36 GMT

Remote Desktop Protocol uses various compression algorithms to compress the image streams. By default, these algorithms are lossy. One way to improve quality (at the cost of bandwidth) is to go in Group Policy Editor (run gpedit.msc) and go to Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Remote Desktop Services -> Remote Desktop Session Host -> Remote Session Environment.

Choose “Optimize visual experience for Remote Desktop Services sessions” policy, set it to “Enabled” and choose “Text”.

This setting will give you a much better noise to signal ratio, although the connection will still be lossy.

Note this only applies to 32 bpp connections and Win7 or above.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Dan Ward — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:43:40 GMT

We are testing out Windows 7 and are having issues extending or moving the application to an extended monitor. span monitors:i:1 is set in the RDP file when opened with notepad.

When trying to move the file it stops at the edge of the monitor and nothing displays on the second monitor.

We have tried to setup the secondary monitor on the left or the right and it doesn't make any difference.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

Tik — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:19:17 GMT

I will not run "remote app" on my windows 2008 enterprise. It will have 15 rdp users and only share applications thru "remote desktop" and only in "Multi monitor support". Not SPANNING, where you have an ugly login in the center of the spanned monitors. (one login window). Now my question is, Do I need a second video card on the server to enable this feature? (where applcation like word and browser if maximized will stay on one screen instead of spanned)

Thanks,

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

termserv — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:38:44 GMT

@Tik: Multimon does not require any extra video cards on the server.

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

tik — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:54:56 GMT

Thanks termserv.

The reason I asked is I called Dell Enterprise support and they told me that I am going to need a second card for it to work. Just like Windows 7 workstation where you have a dual DVI card.

It works on my Windows 7 Ultimate(as RDP host) but not on windows 2008 Ent (config for RDS)

re: Using Terminal Services RemoteApp™ programs on multi-monitor client computers

tik — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:26:37 GMT

HELP. I don't want a "continuous resolution" feature where two monitors are

link together into one continuous display for a single remote RDP session

Should I go to regedit and start changing the configuration on my Windows 2008 R2/Ent just to enable "multimonitor" support for my TS clients?

\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\Winstations\RDP-Tcp

\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\Winstations\EH-Tcp

Thanks,