Clemens Joins the Mothership!http://blogs.msdn.com/richardt/archive/2006/02/02/523525.aspxThere's a saying that "Gravity is a myth ... the earth sucks!" There are many out there in the forums, newsgroups, blogsphere, etc., who vehemently assert that Microsoft sucks big-time. I assume therefore that what they mean is that Microsoft's got anen-USCommunityServer 2.1 SP1 (Build: 61025.2)re: Clemens Joins the Mothership!http://blogs.msdn.com/richardt/archive/2006/02/02/523525.aspx#525825Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:33:03 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:525825JulesHey I was at Twickers on Saturday to see England rout the Welsh in the six nations! &nbsp;I didn't understand much of the game, but thankfully Microsoft put up a large screen on the incomplete south stand, so I could at least understand what was going on in the complex but exhilarating game. <br /> <br />I like J2EE and love the thought of Linux and Free Software, and Ruby/RAILS looks interesting. &nbsp;But when it comes to having confidecne in developing integrated sofwtare solutions, Microsoft and the .NET managed environment coupled with Visual Studio, its hard to beat for the typical developer and end users. &nbsp; <br /> <br />Jules &nbsp;re: Clemens Joins the Mothership!http://blogs.msdn.com/richardt/archive/2006/02/02/523525.aspx#526120Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:29:47 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:526120RichTurner666Don't mention the rugby. PLEASE!! As if my beloved national grand-slam winning rugby team losing to those damn English ... AGAIN ... wasn't bad enough, my newly adopted home town lost the Superbowl! :( <br /> <br />I am intrigued though - how come you like J2EE? What is it about this app platform that so fills you with delight?re: Clemens Joins the Mothership!http://blogs.msdn.com/richardt/archive/2006/02/02/523525.aspx#527491Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:56:03 GMT91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:527491JulesHmm, perhaps I should have said 'liked the J2EE platform..' &nbsp;This was circa 2000, before .NET and C#. &nbsp;Java easy language to pick up compared to C++ and MFC. (I am a rather simple minded developer) The J2EE bits and bobs were free, EJB looked interesting Apps Server, JINI also rather interesting at the time. But now .NET rules. Haven't used J2EE in years, and it seems to lost its way. &nbsp;But I am keeping a keen eye on Ruby/ RAILS. &nbsp;But I can see compelling Apps will need more of a Designer input with Avalon. &nbsp;