On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead?

Paul Wilson — Fri, 05 Mar 2004 20:24:00 GMT

Very nicely put. Of course that 666 in your name does make one wonder . . .

On the path to Indigo: Prescriptive Guidance for Today's Technologies

RichTurner666's WebLog — Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:03:00 GMT

On the path to Indigo: Prescriptive Guidance for Today's Technologies

RichTurner666's WebLog — Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:20:00 GMT

.NET Remoting:

Jeff Key — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 04:18:00 GMT

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Roman Kiss — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 21:42:00 GMT

RemoteObject Service doesn't support the "SingleCall" feature of the .Net Remoting.

- How the Indigo model will handle a stateless call to the endpoint in one round trip (creating the instance and invoking the method)?

Thanks

Roman

Remoting post updated ... again! ;)

On the road to Indigo — Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:46:00 GMT

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Nicholas Paldino [.NET/C# MVP] — Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:56:00 GMT

Rich,

I am having a hard time determining what your updates to old posts are. If you could highlight updates in some way, it would be appreciated.

Other than that, keep up the good work.

- Nick

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Rich Turner — Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:59:00 GMT

Thanks for the note Nick. Alas, this is one of the problems with using a blog as a way of centrally publishing a message that may evolve over time! I don't want readers to read an evolving thread in case they miss future, important updates, so have opted to update the original posting instead. I take your point though and will color highlight new/changed bits as I go along.

Thanks for reading ... keep the feedback coming y'all! :D

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Fallon Massey — Sat, 27 Mar 2004 06:55:00 GMT

What about IIS remoting. Will it still be supported and fall under the umbrella of all other remoting.

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Keith Hill — Fri, 07 May 2004 04:57:00 GMT

With this guidance, does this mean that the recommendation for application scripting either on the same host or different host is to use ASMX now? I still don't quite get what the .NET replacement is for the typical automation server/object model you find in apps like Excel, Word, etc. I would have guessed .NET Remoting but that doesn't seem to be the recommendation here.

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Richard Turner — Fri, 21 May 2004 20:40:00 GMT

Ermmmm ... .NET Remoting is nothing to do with OLE Automation in applications like Word. In the future, I think it will be safe to expect applications to expose their functionality via .NET assemblies. I think it relatively unlikely that apps like Word will publish their capabilities as Web Services, although I don't work for the Office team, so I may be wrong ;) There is a new command-line/scripting environment under development - although I don't have details on this just yet.

IS OO Dead?

On the road to Indigo — Tue, 08 Jun 2004 20:13:00 GMT

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Michele Leroux Bustamante — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:56:00 GMT

<a href="http://www.dasblonde.net/PermaLink.aspx?guid=e7a878ff-8ee3-4681-b0fe-3db28b7c6acb">.NET Remoting, Enterprise Services and the Future - Indigo</a>

re: donBox on DCOM

Just Coding — Fri, 02 Jul 2004 15:31:00 GMT

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Rich Turner — Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:54:00 GMT

I am not entirely sure what you're alluding to here Alex. Since when did COM+ disappear? If you look at Microsoft's product support plans, Windows technologies are supported for 5 years from the date of release + 5 years extended support. This applies to COM+, DCOM, .NET Remoting etc.

Let's say that Longhorn ships in late 2006 (this may or may not happen - we'll just as this date as an illustration). Longhorn will ship new versions of COM+, .NET Fx (including Remoting , etc) as well as Indigo. That means that this release of these technologies will be supported until 2016.

There next version of our OS Blackcomb will also ship these technologies and just taking a wild-stab at a 2011 release date will see support expiring in 2021.

I think you can extrapolate the next steps.

As you can see - none of this technology is disappearing any time soon.

Definitive word on Remoting going forward ...

J.net — Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:10:00 GMT

Yes, Virginia, Remoting Does Have a Future

Frankie Fresh's Blog — Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:27:00 GMT

Yes, Virginia, Remoting Does Have a Future

Frankie Fresh's Blog — Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:29:00 GMT

.NET Remoting is not dead, but it is done...

Deep Thoughts... — Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:22:00 GMT

.NET Remoting and NLB ... some interesting links.

Willy-Peter Schaub — Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:13:00 GMT

Future of .Net Remoting

Xtreme.Net's Blog — Sat, 02 Apr 2005 11:24:00 GMT

Check this writing about .Net Remoting from Richard Turner's Blog

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Garrett Serack — Wed, 06 Jul 2005 22:08:57 GMT

I'm a tad concerned about the statement:

" The simple statement '.NET Remoting will be depricated once Indigo is released' "

and

"Use .NET Remoting for calling between components hosted in different app-domains inside the same process"

Now, I'm using .NET remoting for this purpose, but you used the "deprecated" word. Is that truly it? or just de-emphasized? Indigo is obviously overkill for inter-appdomain communication, but is remoting going to seem like the lame duck in 5 years for inter-appdomain communication?

Seems funny to me given the push towards remoting a few years back. (jeez, is it alread 2005?)

Garrett

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

Rich Turner — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:08:19 GMT

Hey Garrett - just stumbled onto your question - I don't get notified of general comments posted to the blog so please forgive my slow reply.

I understand your concern. While you can remain confident that .NET Remoting (or any of our other distributed technologies) is not being removed from the platfrom, it is also very important to understand that it will not be recieving any significant engineering after we ship .NET Frameworks 2.0 (which has added a few nice-to-have's to Remoting).

Indigo V1 doesn't provide a cross-app-domain communications channel a la .NET Remoting, but it's on the cards for vNext! No guarantees, but it's on the requested features list!

The bottom line is that if you're using Remoting today, your app will doubtlessly be able to run for many years to come, but if you're looking to the future, Indigo is the strategic way forwards.

re: On the road to Indigo - Is .NET Remoting Dead? [Updated]

gserack — Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:26:16 GMT

Rich, Thanks for getting back to me :).

I wasn't really worried about the future compatability, as Microsoft has done me no wrong with that sort of thing before. I am very excited to see that you folks have been thinking about the use of Indigo in the future with cross app-domain communications. That fact alone confirms my faith in the process ;)

My only other concern at this point is maintaining the simpicity that Remoting provided to jr Developers. In some ways, not having to declare a separate interface was kinda nice. It tended to confuse the kids less :)

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

Garrett

nice

Benny — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:06:58 GMT

Super site!

Improved .NET Remoting in 2.0

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Remoting post updated ... again! ;)

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