Part 3: Read and Manage Feeds

re: Part 3: Read and Manage Feeds

Roger Bonine — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:58:29 GMT

There doesn't seem to be any way to set read/unread info, either at the individual post level or the feed level. For instance, if I look at at feed and it only has two posts, I may scroll through the feed and read them both. Then I would mark the entire feed as read. Is this really not possible, or am I missing something?

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rss — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:49:59 GMT

Roger - we have a "viewed" model instead of a "read/unread" model. when you view a feed in IE and navigate away, all of the items are considered "viewed." The next time you visit the same feed, the viewed items are gray, and the new items are blue.

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Josh — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:15:01 GMT

Thanks for explaining the viewed/not viewed distinction. I didn't catch the color difference when I tested it out. However, I think an read/unread model is useful because you can use it to mark items to revisit later (which is faster and more transient than bookmarking and deleting the bookmark).

Also, are there hotkeys for moving directly to the next unviewed entry and next unviewed feed? That's the major thing keeping me from using IE's RSS feature exclusively.

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Jon Hobbs — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:17:34 GMT

Is it possible to read all of your feeds in one long list and hide links you've already read like you can with google reader ?

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sup — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:17:31 GMT

Outstanding! The RSS reader is reason enough to move up to IE7. Very well done.

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SurrealLogic — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 06:59:21 GMT

Someone else already asked something similar, but is there a way to view an aggregated list of all unread feeds across all my feeds, or maybe across all the feeds in a speific folder? This is what I would see myself using feeds for the most - subscribe to the 5 or 6 feeds that interest me, and set a single page as my homepage where I can see what are the newest 20 or so news items across all my feeds.

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GC — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:08:45 GMT

Is it possible to see a popup when a new article on a feed comes in. Most dedicated feedreaders have this function.

I want to be triggerd by the feeds so i can decide if the popup appears if i want to read it right away bij clicking the article in the popup.

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Charles Cook — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:55:39 GMT

Does IE7/RSS engine respect RSS settings such as ttl, skipHours, SkipDays, updatePeriod, updateFrequency (last two from Syndication module) to prevent unnecessary and undesirable feed server bandwidth usage?

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Carlos Silva — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:34:53 GMT

Huh.. can you tell where I can make a bug report about RSS in IE 7?

My IE7 RSS is completely broken, I can subscribe to the feeds, but afterwards the left panel doesn't react to nothing.
I can't even delete feeds.

Post Count and Feed Window Disappearing

Jeff — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:18:20 GMT

It would be useful to have an option for the feed window to permanently remain open so that a user can quickly change between feeds without having to reopen the feeds listing. Also, there are no post counts next to a feed which is nice to know before you dive in.

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Gorka — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:25:56 GMT

Have you considered an advanced settings switch on the suscribe feed dialog? Is really unconfortable go to each new feed to set the refresh propertie if you want to set to adifferent refresh than 1 day. IS a way to set the defautl refresh to a different setting than 1 day?

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Ron — Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:13:19 GMT

There's obviously a bug in the api -- spice world got 4 stars??

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Matt Ellis — Sat, 04 Feb 2006 02:41:20 GMT

Just following up on the read/unred/viewed question.

I think the viewed model makes sense for the IE user - it's the least interaction, and it's the majority case that the user will want to mark all items as read when they view the page.

The problem arises when I use the common feed from a more traditional aggregator where I have more fine grained control over my feed items. If I happen to browse to my feed in IE, IE will trounce over all my settings in my aggregator.

Some sort of compromise would be nice - the IE view still works as now, but there's a widget in the view somewhere to keep an item marked as unread (something like the blue/grey bullet next to the title).

What do you think?

Cheers
Matt

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Oliver — Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:26:14 GMT

When reading feeds, it would be good to have some way or remembering which item you clicked on e.g. either keep and item list visible somewhere or return to the item one clicked on when clicking the back button. Just a thought.

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Stuart — Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:03:41 GMT

How can I move feeds around between folders?

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vytautasver — Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:49:23 GMT

it seems there still are some bugs in the Favourites and Feeds organization interface, moving feeds or favs around doesn't work right. Still the RSS reader possibilities are one of my favourite features in the beta! Awsome!

re: Part 3: Read and Manage Feeds - Podcasts

GlennE — Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:21:00 GMT

I couldn't find a way to select podcasts to send to my mp3 player or atleast to see them in the media players playlist. Did I miss it or does it not exist?

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Yugo — Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:59:19 GMT

My feeds are not updated automatically, but I must refresh it manually from the left panel!

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Pratik — Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:05:23 GMT

A welcome to feeds in IE.
It would have been better if feeds in the favorites center could have drop down list of topics so the only feed required to read would open and it should have option of displaying the feed in main window or in the favorites center window only while simontanously browsing any site in main window.

Or like firefox provide feeds toolbar, to add feeds or view feed topics opening in main or favorites center window.
Pratik

re: Part 3: Read and Manage Feeds - BUT DON'T PRINT

su — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:20:39 GMT

In general I love the feed support in ie7. However using a fixed position navigation component in the feed display is wicked annoying when you want to print a feed - especially if the feed is several pages long.

re: Part 3: Read and Manage Feeds

rss — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:13:17 GMT

Josh -

We're adding shortcut keys so that you can jump to the next feed item easily.

- Jane Kim [MSFT]

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rss — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:16:21 GMT

Jon Hobbs -

We currently do not have an aggregated view of all feed items.

- Jane Kim [MSFT]

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rss — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:29:14 GMT

Charles Cook -

The sync engine respects TTL, conditional gets, skipHour, and skipDay when specified by the feed.

- Jane Kim [MSFT]

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rss — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:29:57 GMT

Jeff -

You can have the feed list pinned open by clicking on the top-right button of the Favorites Center Menu.

- Jane Kim [MSFT]

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rss — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:34:41 GMT

Stuart -

There is a known bug where the cursor is incorrect when trying to drag a feed to another folder.

In order to work around the bug, you need to drop the feed on the folder itself, not between feeds within a folder.

- Jane Kim [MSFT]

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rss — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:41:30 GMT

GlennE -

For enclosures, make sure that the checkbox to download attached files (enclosures) on. In the properties menu of a feed (right-click on a feed), there is a "view" button. This is the explorer view of the downloaded files that you can import into your music app.

- Jane Kim [MSFT]

re: Part 3: Read and Manage Feeds - BUT DON'T PRINT

su — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 00:30:29 GMT

Also watch what happens when you use the Zoom tool when viewing a feed! Yowza.

Bug in Refresh

Rich Gautier — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:58:13 GMT

If you close IE7 for the night, come back the next day and open up your feeds, they have not refreshed (so they don't integrate with the scheduled refresh that IE had for auto-refreshing content).

Then, there is no way to force refresh them, and because you've fallen outside the schedule window, they do not automatically refresh any more. You must delete the subscription and re-subscribe to the content to get it to refresh.

This is 'broken'.

AutoRefresh Not Working Clue

Rich Gautier — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:07:05 GMT

Well, refresh button works but ONLY on the RSS control bar. Hitting F5/Refresh on the feed itself does not refresh the content from the page.

Additional clue - auto refresh might be breaking due to cleared History. Since I clean my History nightly (IE setting), this may be causing auto-refresh in the morning to not be able to determine time of last refresh and thus not automatically refresh feeds....just an idea.

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Matt — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:50:37 GMT

I would like to select many feeds and change the update frequency for all of them at the same times but this doesnt seem to work. perhaps its not meant to work that way either but I got 182 feeds and I would like a bunch of them to update atleast once an hour and then some to update once a day. Its also very very difficult to manage them at all. Drag and drop just sucks with them.

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Ed — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:09:23 GMT

Can the default behavior when clicking a linki in the RSS page be changed to always open in a new tab? If I forget to click the middle button on a RSS link, all entries from that feed are marked 'viewed', when I go back everything is grey.

re: Part 3: Read and Manage Feeds

Eric K. — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:25:57 GMT

The RSS search textbox in my installation of IE7 does not stay to the right of content and doesn't force content to wrap around it. It merely squats on top of any page content and WILL NOT GO AWAY.

This is not desirable behavior. Nobody likes a persistent and annoying box on top of what they're trying to read.

Amd I intended to scroll the page around just to get to see something the RSS feature was supposedly *designed* to show me? And why canni not banish this search box if I'm not planning on doing any searching?

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Bjørn Nielsen — Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:10:25 GMT

The feed reader in IE7 have allready replaced my use of bloglines. It's great, but does have some issues, that would be annoying in the long run.

- static feed-leftbar is only accessible through ctr+j, why not also with a dobble mouseclick on the favorites center star.
- manual refresh of feeds are only accessible by rightclicking at feeds, why not a hotkey for this? And also one for skipping to next feed/or next unviewed feed.
- lack of global settings for feeds (if you like me check feed all day long, refresh rate once a day is not enough, and it's a hell lot of clicks to change settings manually for 50+ feeds)
-"synchronize" in tools menu, is at moment only working for the homepage, why not for feeds also?
-the feed logo is pretty, but why not use the websites favicon for those who have?

-I also experienced periods where the feeds weren't updated for a whole day. They started updating again after I manually refreshed some of them. Is this a flaw?
-Some feeds do often come as unviewed without having any unviewed items. Could this by IE7 or problems with the feed?
-There is sometimes flying items when looking at some feeds. Graphics and sometimes also the blue dots sliding vertically up and down.

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Dreamliner — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:32:38 GMT

The refresh settings is difficult to find. Why don't you include it somewhere under the Tools menu instead?

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Joe — Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:48:41 GMT

I imported all my feeds via OPML. I painstakingingly set the update frequencies for each. I have never seen ANT of them update without right-clicking each one and refreshing it. If this is not a bug, then the UI is not intuitive.

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Bob Loblaw — Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:59:45 GMT

I am unable to download ie7 -- an msfeeds.dll problem I just can't fix -- but using a friend's machine I thought the RSS feature excellent. Is there a Feed Reader out there that I can use that is very similar?