ClickOnce and FireFox

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

PaulG — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:39:35 GMT

I'm really glad you guys are working on this. I work for an ISV and we are making a huge bet that there will be no serious sales objections from our customers to our choice of using online ClickOnce as the deployment model for our next generation application.

Whenever I demo I always launch from a publish.html page shown in Internet Explorer, which helps get the point across that ClickOnce has all the stuff that makes customers insist on a "browser application".

However, right now when questions around FireFox come up I have to dance around a bit. I really think that you guys need to make this a high priority if you want to make sure that ClickOnce is well recieved by an already skeptical crowd. I know it works with Firefox on the machine but you can't underestimate the physcology of the customer who wants to see the app launched from a publish.htm in Firefox.

Can you clarify "the next release"? Surely you don't mean the next .Net Framework version? I mean it took over 2 years from when 1.1 was released until 2.0. Please tell me you "next release" is a service pack?

Finally, ClickOnce does indeed rock, thanks for this awesome technology!

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Saurabh — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:51:21 GMT

Glad you like the technology and we do feel your pain with our lack of XBrowser support.

We would like to have ClickOnce XBrowser support enabled at the earliest. However it is a bit premature for me to comment on when exactly this will be and what the vehicle will be.

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re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Scott Hanselman — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:40:57 GMT

Thanks for the explanation. Was not supporting FireFox an oversight? A mistake? Or was it on purpose due to schedule? I ask because it could have either worked, or a warning ("don't use fire fox") could have been issued. But BREAKING causes enterprises who have standardized on FireFox but also want to deploy ClickOnce apps to have a quandry.

What next version of the framework are you fixing this in? 2.0SP1? 2.1? Orcas (3.0?)

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Saurabh — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 19:32:43 GMT

The lack of XBrowser support was a cut we had to make for our V1 release primarialy due to schedule restrictions. We did not view this workitem only as providing FireFox support but rather as providing XBrowser support and wanted to make sure in the next release we had a solution that was browser independent.

We did toy with the idea of an error dialog for Non IE browsers, the problem here being that for other browsers our code is not called into untill after the .application has been downloaded locally and run. At this point it is just treated as a local .application invocation.

We are pushing to have this fixed at the earliest on our next release, however cant comment on what the ship vehicle will be at this point.

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Chuck — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:49:43 GMT

Unbelievable that some manager would cut Xbrowser support from the release. Not having major browser support render ClickOnce useless. Having professional looking/working installs is so important.

"And yes we are actively looking into remedying this in the next release of the Framework".
A proactive company that supports their customers would put out a patch for this; Instead of just considering it for a future non-scheduled release.

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Patrick Leblanc — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:23:44 GMT

I'm also quite shocked to see how much of a burden it is when your default browser is Firefox.

Not only you need to have 2 seperate links, but even if you create a setup it will launch the .application...in the default browser! which doesn't work either!

I really hope it's going to be fixed _soon_

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Garett — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:52:27 GMT

In fact ClickOnce deployment partially works with FireFox.
See more details :
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Download%20Tools&numpg=10&id=1608
For another Browser like Opera :

The next step is to make Opera pass the url to the .application file format to EXPLORER. I would pass this to the appropriate file to run it, but then it won't be in the right context so we'll settle for a little dodgyness.

Click Tools, Preferences, Advanced, Downloads then add a new mime type of application/x-ms-application with an extension of application, then check "Open with other application", enter "explorer.exe" and check "Pass web address directly to application".

Best Regards

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re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Tanner — Thu, 04 May 2006 02:02:17 GMT

This is a major show stopper for using ClickOnce for us. Without XBrowser support ClickOnce is useless.

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Josh Einstein — Thu, 04 May 2006 20:52:23 GMT

I agree about it being a show stopper. I found out about this when I was trying to convince some google-loving firefox fan how great ClickOnce was for quick deployment of real desktop applications. Boy was my face red.

How could you not test firefox! Geez guys Steve Ballmer better send out a memo letting you all know the days of assuming IE are over. Like it or not.

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re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Norman Rasmussen — Sun, 28 May 2006 00:20:11 GMT

Software Punk now have a FireFox extension called FFClickOnce: http://www.softwarepunk.com/ffclickonce/ . It handles ClickOnce deployment in FireFox :-)

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Linda — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:56:55 GMT

In the "How do ClickOnce Shortcuts help me get ClickOnce support on FireFox?" section, Saurabh says "..., all you need to do is generate the shortcut file and publish it on your server...".
How do I generate the shortcut file?

re: ClickOnce and FireFox

Tim Binkley-Jones — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:46:25 GMT

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Sometime happens your ClickOnce installer doesn't works in Firefox. Look at the remedy tip and problem discussion on the Saurabh Pant's blog. I've met with this problem too, but I've solved it by proper MIME type settings.

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