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Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

For those of you who know me, you know I love the technology AND the business side of SharePoint. So, when we discovered that some of our licensing was hampering your deployment architectures, we immediately got to work remedying the situation. For those of you who know how our licensing works, you know that you couldn't deploy an Intranet and Extranet in the same SharePoint farm because of the licensing. However, we built SharePoint from a technology standpoint to run Intranet, Extranet and even Internet sites all in the same farm, even on the same server! We worked lots and lots of special deals to help customers get changes to their individual licenses but that didn't help our broad community of customers.

I'm happy to say that beginning Sept 1st, we made a change that makes running MOSS Server Licenses and MOSSFIS legal in the same farm. So, let the deploying begin! One thing to realize is that this does not reduce the number of licenses you need to buy. So, if you're running MOSS Server licenses and MOSSFIS on the same farm, you still need to buy both licenses as well as the correct number of client access licenses (CALs) for your internal users.

Does your brain hurt yet from all the licensing mumbo jumbo? Well, to make hurt even more, I'm including a link to our licensing FAQ, product list where the change took place and the actual legalize from the product list so you can read through it at your leisure (bedtime makes a perfect time!).

Office SharePoint Server 2007 and Office SharePoint Server 2007 for Internet Sites

Accommodation for simultaneous use of server software under Office SharePoint Server 2007 and Office SharePoint Server 2007 for Internet sites:

The same software is licensed under Office SharePoint Server 2007 and Office SharePoint Server 2007 for Internet sites under different use rights.  Office SharePoint Server 2007's use rights support private intranet sites and require CALs for licensed access, while Office SharePoint Server 2007 for Internet Sites does not require CALs, but does require that all content, information and applications be accessible through the internet to non-employees.  Please refer to the Product Use Rights (PUR) document for these products' use rights.

As an accommodation for possible deployment scenarios, customers wishing to consolidate their SharePoint needs under a single deployment may acquire licenses for both products, assign those licenses to the same server, and use the same running instance of the software simultaneously under both licenses.  However, customers must acquire CALs as required under the Office SharePoint Server 2007 use rights for users and devices accessing content in any manner not permitted under the Office SharePoint Server 2007 for Internet sites use rights.

As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to me. We're working hard to make sure SharePoint meets all your needs, both technically and business/licensing wise. If you don't tell us what you need, we can't build it so keep the feedback coming. I know none of you are shy. :-)

 

Tom Rizzo, Director of Product Management

Published Monday, September 24, 2007 10:42 AM by sptblog
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# Techy News Blog » Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

# Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

Tom heeft een belangrijke aanpassing in de licentie structuur van SharePoint aangekondigd via de SharePoint...

Monday, September 24, 2007 1:57 PM by Bart Wessels' Blog

# Importante cambio en las licencias de MOSS 2007 a partir del 1 de Septiembre de 2007

Microsoft, el equipo de SharePoint y en concreto Tom Rizzo, Director of Product Management, ha anunciado

Monday, September 24, 2007 2:07 PM by Jorge Serrano - MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

So does this mean I can run MOSS as both an Intranet and an Extranet?

Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:52 AM by Yonah

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

I have a question.. what if you have purchased the Standard CAL's for the Intranet? I believe the Internet version is only available with the Enterprise features. Is this still allowed? Can you have one server (Extranet) with the Enterprise features and another WFE server (Intranet) with the Standard features?

Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:44 PM by jdb_1715

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

Here is another question/scenario that would be helpful in our implementations. Now that MOSS is moving beyond simple document mgmt in terms of functionality, it would be nice to be able to include a server in the farm that allow different clint licenses. As an example, lets say that we have a 3000 person deployment of Standard CALs MOSS for an intranet. However, there is a small group (say about 200 people) that need the funtionality of Forms Server because they want to use MOSS more as an application. Currently, I believe to have them on the same farm, we would need to purchase Enterprise CALs (or just Forms Server CALs) for all 3000 people.. but that's overkill and knocks MOSS out of the running. Is there a way to add another server to a farm that would have the Forms Server and just license it so that only those 200 people would need the Enterprise CALs? Thanks in advance.

Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:48 PM by jdb_1715

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

So let me make sure I understand this correctly...

Suppose I want a site that is password-protected and is accessible by a client company of 500 people. They will be creating sites and subsites, and collaborating on documents, etc. Some sites will not be available to other employees (e.g. financial info, or even document workspaces).

With this scenario, I would have to purchase the MOSSIF, the Standard license, the enterprise license (if they're using any of those features), and CAL's for all of MY people that access the site. Correct? That is what I was told by MS about 2 weeks ago. How is that different now?

Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:15 PM by KDC

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

A big problem I see with MOSS licensing is for intranet / internet WCM. We were able to build an award winning intranet site that services 11,000 clients for about 30k in licensing (CMS Enterprise server based license). This also gave us a very fast / stable staged internet site.

We are now told this option is not available for the next generation product (MOSS), and we must move to a CAL model for intranet. Since we aren't interested in an EA, we must end up spending an order of magnitude more in order to acheive functional equivalence. Not nice!

Whats more the data migration path from CMS to MOSS is VERY error prone, I had an MS support case open for 3 months and it was closed unresolved because the migration profiles do not work except for the simplest of sites. We would need to spend another 10k on the tool from Metalogix to get the job done right.

These are some issues that, if acted upon, will keep a large manufacturing client. But in the mean time we are giving serious consideration to your WCM competitors.

Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:58 PM by Aaron

# Why not make it attractive for SMB?

This is a welcome move. I wish the price for MOSSFIS is also relooked at. Currently at $40K per server MOSSFIS is not viable for many of the SMB customers. MCMS 2002 had a Standard Edition at $6K, something in that order will be welcome. We have lost several orders to competing products because of the pricing issue.

Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:04 AM by Venkatarangan TNC

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

I have few questions to clarify my understanding of MOSS Licensing change:

1) Can we now implement MOSS on a single server to support Intranet, Extranet, and Internet usage?

2) Follow-up on the Question #1, do we need to purchase both MOSS and MOSSFIS licenses or we just need to purchase MOSSFIS license if we want to support the latter usage?

3) If we want to do load balancing on our server infrastructure, where we dedicate the index search on a single box and have another MOSS server that supports Intranet, Extranet and Internet usage, what will be the recommended licensing that we'll need to purchase for this scenario?

Looking forward to hear respond soon.

Thanks!

Friday, September 28, 2007 6:59 PM by HL Kok

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

I have the same questions #1 and #2 as HL Kok posted on 9/28/07.  Any answers??  I need to know asap!

Thanks!

Wednesday, October 03, 2007 4:43 PM by P Shum

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

We have encountered a similar experience to Aaron with the "MOSS licensing is for intranet / internet WCM".

With 15,000 clients running from a MCMS Ent. Intranet site the licensing aspect was non-issue with a CAL based approach for a MOSS WCM Intranet site it has become a real issue and like Aaron we are investigating alternatives.

A license update which addressed this scenario would be welcomed.

Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:13 AM by Joe

# Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

From Tom Rizzo, news about a change to MOSSFIS licensing : I'm happy to say that beginning Sept 1

Friday, October 05, 2007 11:10 PM by Craig Bailey's Link Blog

# SharePoint Internet Lizensierung geändert

Aus dem SharePoint Team Blog Office SharePoint Server 2007 and Office SharePoint Server 2007 for Internet

Monday, October 08, 2007 8:42 AM by SharePoint, SharePoint and stuff

# re: Important change to MOSS 2007 for Internet Sites (MOSSFIS) licensing

I have some questions about WSS 3.0.

For a scenario where i want to use forms authentication, and give access to registered users that dont belong to my company. How do i license this users? Or wich type of license should i have? Do i need the external connector?

Thanks in advance

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:19 AM by Ricardo Casaca

# SharePoint 2007 (MOSS) Licensing Changes

On the SharePoint Team blog, Tom Rizzo (Director of Product Management), has just announced changes to MOSS licensing. Since its launch, if you wanted to have a public facing site, then you needed to have two different servers: one for the internal si..

Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:46 PM by Sharepoint BUZZ

# MOSS Licensing changed

Finally, according to this post on the Sharepoint blog,Microsoft changed the licensing model of MOSS.

Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:51 AM by Portals & Integration blog

# Having troube in achieving project server redundancy

I have a similar architecture. I am having trouble in achieving the redundancy in project server role. I have two web server which are serving WFE and Query role, two server for project server role and one dedicated index server. whenever one project server is down, project web access does not respond. i have started the service in differet server as below:

In both Web server: WSS web application, query

In both Project server: Project application server (stopped WSS web application)

In Index server: Search service (stopped WSS web application).

Can you please tell me why the project application server does not respond if one of them is down?

Thanks,

Aloke

Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:47 AM by alokeda

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