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64-Bit and the Admin Toolkit Download Trend

[Cross-Referenced from Zach Rosenfield's Blog

Just over a month ago I announced the release of the second Microsoft SharePoint Administration Toolkit.  We’ve been getting great feedback and lots of interest—and I wanted to share our download results:

Toolkit Download Trends

After 5 months we’re just shy of the 29,000 download mark, but more interesting is the disparity between x86 and x64 downloads.  We feel like we often talk about the benefits of going 64-bit with your SharePoint deployments—but the download numbers above make us wonder if he advantages are really understood.  I’ll take this opportunity to reiterate why we push all our customers to consider the switch to the x64 architecture.

What is wrong with 32-bit?
We’re not saying 32-bit is bad—it’s just that when Windows, IIS, CLR/ASP.NET, WSS, MOSS Core, SSP, and MDAC binaries are all loaded into memory (this is the initial footprint for MOSS 2007) it can leave a 32-bit address space quite fragmented (not to be confused with “too consumed”).  When the CLR or SharePoint services request new memory blocks, it can be difficult to find a 64MB slice in the already loaded address space.  Below is a snapshot of such an address space:

Sample Memory Footprint (32-Bit)

In many cases where customers are seeing bad performance—it’s not due to a lack of memory but a lack of enough continuous memory to serve additional requests.

Why 64 Can Help?
64-bit is not a cure-all to every performance issue but it does provide a practically unbounded address space for user mode processes. Therefore memory requests (even in 100’s of MB chunks) will not fail due to a lack of un-fragmented space.  Not only will 64-bit significantly lower the problems you could potentially face, but once you get your servers into a constantly stable state mitigating other performance issues becomes a much easier task to achieve.

I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for your interest in the SharePoint Administration Toolkit and to remind you all to keep the benefits of 64-bit architecture in mind as you look to improve your SharePoint deployments and plan for the future. If you can’t switch immediately (and even if you can) you can still help yourself today by installing the Infrastructure Update and to look at the Best Practices Resource Center.

Zach Rosenfield
Program Manager, Microsoft Office SharePoint Server

Published Friday, October 03, 2008 1:43 PM by sptblog

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# 64-Bit and the Admin Toolkit Download Trend : EasyCoded

# re: 64-Bit and the Admin Toolkit Download Trend

There is one drawback to going 64-bit.  Native code.  Especially 3rd party native code.  According to my sources, Sharepoint won't deploy in a 32 bit IIS running in a 64-bit OS.  And 3rd party code (packaged in native .dll files) is almost always 32 bit.  Back in the WOW16 days, we used to thunk around the problem, but things are so seemless now that I am not even sure it is possible.

Not everything that needs to be done can be done in .net yet.  So that niche for native code is still required.  Even in the Sharepoint world.

We struggled for a couple of days to find a workaround, or a document that would tell us how to proceed before we finally gave up and installed in good old 32-bit Server 2003.  At which point it all worked like a champ.

Keep evangelizing, because the jump to a 64-bit address space is compelling.  But for now, it's only possible if you have full control of all the code.

Saturday, October 04, 2008 1:11 AM by Professor Von Lemongargle

# re: 64-Bit and the Admin Toolkit Download Trend

Just a pitty that not all sharepoint based applications install on 64-bit (eg Portfolio server)

Saturday, October 04, 2008 1:50 AM by Wim

# re: 64-Bit and the Admin Toolkit Download Trend

However, there is a performance issue with SQL Server 2005 x64 when running with MOSS2007 x64 in that if the physical memory being used on the SQL Server box is half full ie (4GB used by windows and SQL Server on a 8GB installed memory), it pages like crazy (17,000 + pages /sec) resulting in patches of poor performance.  This has been raised with MS premier support

Saturday, October 04, 2008 4:37 AM by Nigel

# re: 64-Bit and the Admin Toolkit Download Trend

I think that the difference between the two platforms can be the development and virtual Machines, almost any production environment I know of is 64 bit, but when you talk about developer machines almost everyone is a 32bit one.

MS didn't have a vm product that suported 64bit guest OS until hyper-V so many test vm are 32 bit ones, and also the vstudio extensions used to develop won't install on 64 bits (there is a hack to accomplish that), so the difference can come from here.

Just my 2c

Saturday, October 04, 2008 7:25 AM by Enrique

# re: 64-Bit and the Admin Toolkit Download Trend

Interesting, I'm working a MOSS 2007 / WSS 3.0 rollout and planning on doing it on Windows Server 2003 x64.... I presume all these 64-bit versions of MOSS and the related components require the x64 version of Windows Server ?

Maybe it just reflects more on the gradual pace of x64 server adoption in the corporate world?

Not all companies have rolled out 64-bit server hardware either!

Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:31 PM by Robin Majumdar

# re: 64-Bit and the Admin Toolkit Download Trend

What tool did you use to create the "Memory View Summary" picture?

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